[TRguy]

Glock

Pretty amazing torture test.

http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90&Item

I have 1911s, S&W wheelies and semis, Beretta Px4, but when it comes to dead nuts dependability and knowing a bang is coming with the next pull I am bringing the G19.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj131/TRguy/Guns/Glock19ThreadedBarrel8-094.jpg

and for the HK fanboys, HK still hates you......

[jimmyraythomason]

I think that,in a REAL SHTF scenario,that an ample supply of clean drinking water will be needed more that ANY firearm.

[Radagast]

In a real SHTF scenario a lot of hot water and disposable towels will be needed, along with a bucket of deodorizer or air freshener.:neener:

[TRguy]

I'm talking about firearms.

But in the Bug Out bag I have this

http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_515897_imageset_01?$main-Large$

MSR Mini-Works Ceramic Water Filter

and I added in some in some

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51k-lp9rPgL._AA260_.jpg

And plenty of ammo to shoot the bastards that try to take my fresh water and food.

[Rat Robb]

^^^

With a firearm you can get anything you want ;

-Robb

[TRguy]

Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Better to prepare, than desperately seeking it when you HAVE to have it. More than likely those that have will have THEIR OWN GUNS to protect what they have.

I say, you want it? Come and get some. (If you can walk through an RPK M-72 built lead wall.)

So what handgun are you strapping on the belt when SHTF?????? Taurus PT-22?
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=10321,filename=taurus_pt22_pink.jpg

[huntsman]

so what handgun are you strapping on the belt when shtf??????

s&w 4566

[OregonJohnny]

In the case of some fantasy, urban, civil unrest scenario where I'm running from building to building, having shootouts with foreign invaders and picking up spare ammo whenever I can, my sidearm would be my Beretta 92FS. It's used by our military, so if I need spare parts, magazines, ammo, I can hopefully find them strewn about the streets. :rolleyes:

But in all seriousness, the Beretta would probably be a top contender out of my collection to be strapped to my thigh in any kind of stationary or mobile emergency situation.

[Crow1108]

I'm gonna have to go with my Glock 19 on this one.

[iyaoyas98]

I thought RPK's and AK's were only good for zombies?
I'm sure not walking through a lead wall.
I'll be up on that hill with a scoped .308 and a ghillie suit.

[TRguy]

I thought RPK's and AK's were only good for zombies?

Other guns will work too, but RPKs will work fine. Isn't zombie just another synonym for Liberal?

[texas bulldog]

IBTL

[Sheepdog1968]

Impressive.

[TRguy]

Well Texas Terrier, if you think they are gonna lock it at least lay down the words to what you will carry in that hair raising emergency situation.

Is it a?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Slingshot_(weapon).jpg

[WoofersInc]

If I have to bug out I have 2 handguns coming with me. An HK Tactical and a Ruger 22/45. Both of them suppressed. The 22 will be very beneficial for small game hunting and the 45 for personal defense. All without alerting others that may be near by

[iyaoyas98]

I didn't know what IBTL meant.
I googled. According to Urban Dictionary.com, Texas Bulldog posted:

"I blow Thai lads. A common phrase associated with a hammersavage"

I'm not sure if I needed to know that.

The 205 threads are the funniest.

[TRguy]

IBTL = In Before The Lock

Not sure why locking would be an issue. Someone would have to have their mangina way out of whack to think this wasnt firearm related.

[jimmyraythomason]

SHTF scenarios often morph into zombie wars, zombie wars result in thread lock.

[geniusiknowit]

Where will you store the gun?
How do you plan on carrying the gun?
What do you anticipate needing to shoot?
How much shooting do you anticipate needing to do?
How long do you anticipate the SHingTF to last?

[iyaoyas98]

Well, to keep it from digressing to shooting liberals,
I'm taking:
1) scoped .22 rifle with subsonics.
2) Springy 9mm Service
3) an AK

If I have to ditch a rifle, I'm keeping the .22
a well placed round of .22 to the head will kill just about any zombie.

[TRguy]

Mine is to get me and mine to our rural meet point, that has shelter, water, food, and a defensible position for the foreseeable period of time.

Listen on the radio as the urban areas descend in to utter chaos.

[esquare]

The problem with this type of thread is that you finally come to realize that it really doesn't matter. If you prepare for normal, everyday life scenarios, then you probably have all you need. IE, if you carry or keep a gun in your nightstand, wouldn't that be what you are going to take along? (And exactly where are you going?) As to reliability, probably most weapons would be reliable enough - if it (and you) last long enough to need spare ammo, parts, etc, then there will be plenty lying around. (BTW, who honestly thinks that they could have fired off 50 rounds at people during Katrina's aftermath and lived to tell about it? Why do people think they need to run into the woods with 2K rounds in their backpack?)

Sigh - I would think that an infinitely more important thing to concern yourself with would be to be on good terms with your neighbors so you all can get through whatever together...

... sorry to ruin your fantasy. In a SHTF scenario, I'd try to find some friends.

[esquare]

Oh, btw, how well is the glock going to function when you accidentally drop the magazine into a street sewer? :-)

[MachIVshooter]

SHTF What is coming with me?

And you chose a handgun?

[tactikel]

After packing my .223, I'd include a hi-cap 9mm (XDm or Glock) and a .22 auto. Both use light, easy to find ammo capable of SD applications. Having a concealable weapon that can be used as a backup is nice.

[Leanwolf]

RAT ROBB - " With a firearm you can get anything you want ;"


Uh huh.... until you run up against someone who also has a firearm and has no intention of allowing you to steal his goods. :uhoh:

L.W.

[armoredman]

Yep.

[Tacbandit]

Quote:
"Oh, btw, how well is the glock going to function when you accidentally drop the magazine into a street sewer? :-)

How well is any gun going to function when you drop the mag into a street sewer?
And how/why would you you "accidentally" drop a mag into a street sewer?
Hey, put in another mag and keep going...

[-eaux-]

in an attempt to keep this handgun specific, i'll say my GI Colt M1911A1.
if nothing else, i have and can find enough .45acp to fight my way to someone's 9mm and burn up all the 9mm ammo lying around.

truth be told, if i had to grab only one firearm for both zombies and supper meat, it'd be the AK. (and don't you think for a moment that the 1911 and the .22 Browning Buckmark won't both still be tucked in the waistband as i flee into the woods and head in the opposite direction of y'all who insist on facing the zombies)

[TRguy]

I am talking about the handgun I will take, I will have a long gun with them. Most likely and AR. I was merely talking of my handguns which will be strapped to the belt

[huntsman]

Those who dismiss the whole SHTF idea should spend some time here.
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

This guy’s experiences prove the need for firearms in SD especially handguns, you see TSHTF already in Argentina and it has nothing to do with zombies or the Apocalypse but SD when LEO’s can’t or won’t protect you.

[esquare]

Those who dismiss the whole SHTF idea should spend some time here.
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

I'm not sure if this was directed at me or not, but it's a good discussion anyway. I've read ferfal's blog before and it is very enlightening, and hopefully it serves as a warning to all those who don't think the dollar could ever collapse.

My point was that I think most people fantasize about slinging a bunch of weapons on them and running out into the woods to 'live off the land'. In reality, if you really think about what emergency situations could arise, I think people would spend much less time trying to find the 'perfect' handgun and spend much more time on stuff that actually matters in a real emergency. The truth is, while not ideal, most handguns would get you through if you needed one, and not many would work if you really needed a rifle.

I still don't understand where the OP is intending to go? Could you specify what type of situation you are talking about? SHTF covers way too much, that without further details it's impossible to have a meaningful conversation.

[Onward Allusion]

The bottom line is that "an army of one" isn't going to cut it in a SHTF scenario. You can have all the gear you want, but you can't watch your back by yourself. That's where neighbors, church, & community comes into play.

[wheelgunslinger]

I have to concur with esquare.

I've lived through major hurricanes and the aftermath, done a lot of backpacking, and seen a lot of the bad side of people.
Which scenario is pretty important.

If you're just being generic, then I'd have to go with my Dan Wesson 357.
I don't want to look like a cop or a bad guy. I want to look like a citizen just trying to get by, should I run afoul of cops or bad guys.

I've seen how lawless certain elements (generally the revolving door criminals) can be when the power goes out and things get unsteady. They like easy targets because they know that the Emergency Room isn't just a phone call away. Even a flesh wound can be dire.

Unless you're in a remote area, you'll find that other people like you want to do what humans always have: form a tribe and share resources in exchange for shared security. No man is an island, nor should he try to be in one of these happenings. You don't have to get kitted out like Rambo unless you're really in a remote area.

[goon]

Oh, btw, how well is the glock going to function when you accidentally drop the magazine into a street sewer? :-)

It would probably work just fine if you inserted another loaded magazine. :neener:

FWIW, I prefer revolvers. ;)

[bikerdoc]

Tribe, clan, kin, call it whatever.

The honorable gentleman from Tenn.,Wheelgunslinger got it right.

Being old and infirm, bugging out is not an option. We plan, think and practice. My wife has my six.

Semi rural that we are, my BIL is one side, cousin across the road.

Choke points covered, fields of fire cleared.

Think, plan, act and hope you never have to execute the plan.

[rogertc1]

Ever since I have grown older I have lost a lot of my fanasy abilities. Too much reality Just ain't no end of society going to happen. Sorry. Yet I have tons of guns cause I like them.

[rbernie]

Not sure why locking would be an issue. Someone would have to have their mangina way out of whack to think this wasnt firearm related. Uh, I guess that would be me. Way to go.

SHTF threads are generally locked becuase several things happen; they devolve into survivalist fantasies that have little to do with fostering the RKBA, or they wind up in bash-fests over what firearm will save you from the Coming Hordes.

In this case, I've let the discussion go far longer than my good sense told me was appropriate. I hope y'all enjoyed it while it lasted.