[Frankh]

A few images from my hunt . October 09

[bang_bang]

Amazing.

What flavor of rifles did you use on the hunts?

[Frankh]

Thanks

Hippo and buffalo .416 Rigby. The puku .308

[desidog]

Nice work.
I'd like to do that in the near future.

Did you use a consultant, outfitter, or what? And were they good?
Also, if you don't mind me asking, roughly how much wampum did the experience set you back all told?

[content]

Hello friends and neighbors// Outstanding !!

How long where you out?

[Kernel]

Some fine looking animals. That dude that’s posed in all the photos….. well, my mom taught me, “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” We’ll leave it at that. :p

Good job.

[giggitygiggity]

I don't mean to sound rude, but would you mind sharing how much an adventure like that costed? Thanks.

[nathan]

Wowwww! That hippo is huge ! Wonder how the meat would taste on that one.

[Kernel]

costed?
Is that even a word?

[Frankh]

Nice work.
I'd like to do that in the near future.

Did you use a consultant, outfitter, or what? And were they good?
Also, if you don't mind me asking, roughly how much wampum did the experience set you back all told?
No outfitter, just a friend and myself.

[Frankh]

Hello friends and neighbors// Outstanding !!

How long where you out?

Thanks , 5 Days

[Frankh]

Some fine looking animals. That dude that’s posed in all the photos….. well, my mom taught me, “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” We’ll leave it at that. :p

Good job.

Thanks , now I know I’m no beauty.............but be nice to the noob :D

[Frankh]

Wowwww! That hippo is huge ! Wonder how the meat would taste on that one.

The biltong (jerky) was excellent.

[Frankh]

I don't mean to sound rude, but would you mind sharing how much an adventure like that costed? Thanks.

I was in the lucky position that I have a very, very good friend.:) - and no I dont mean that !:eek:

[H&Hhunter]

Frank,

Nice looking critters there my friend. That broken horned bull has great bosses! A very nice bull to say the least. Congratulations on your hunt.

For those of you wondering what the cost of hunt like that would be in Zambia the simplest way to find out is to google "buffalo hunt Zambia" that'll give you a rough idea what a fully guided hunt like that would be.

Peter Chipman runs a real nice outfit in Zambia. There is a good starting point for you.

P.S.

Hippo tastes just like hippo it is a very mild red meat.

[Frankh]

Frank,

Nice looking critters there my friend. That broken horned bull has great bosses! A very nice bull to say the least. Congratulations on your hunt.


Thanks

His friend a couple of meters behind him was even bigger, this bull was leading and unfortunately spotted me. 32 yards felt a bit close with him staring at me.

[Geno]

What a great thread. Thanks for sharing the pictures from your adventure.

Geno

[Grizfire]

That hippo looks as though he could swallow a man whole...wouldn't that suck.

congrats on the successful hunt.

[Arkel23]

Congratulations on the nice animals, and welcome to THR.

[Dr.Rob]

Buffalo is one of my dream hunts. NICE rifle by the way.

[chief]

What load in the .416, solid?

[countertop]

Not interested in how much the hunt costs, but perhaps H&H Hunter or the FrankH or someone could do a good post on the actual economics and logistics of hunting in Africa beyond just the travel, tags, and PH fee.

For instance, how do you ship your trophies back and how much does it cost?

Are they mounted in Africa or mounted in the US? What is the mounting cost on something like a buffalo, or that hippo?

I assume you can't bring the meat back in the US. If you shoot a warthog, what special US permits do you need to bring a trophy back?

[H&Hhunter]

Not interested in how much the hunt costs, but perhaps H&H Hunter or the FrankH or someone could do a good post on the actual economics and logistics of hunting in Africa beyond just the travel, tags, and PH fee.

For instance, how do you ship your trophies back and how much does it cost?

Are they mounted in Africa or mounted in the US? What is the mounting cost on something like a buffalo, or that hippo?

I assume you can't bring the meat back in the US. If you shoot a warthog, what special US permits do you need to bring a trophy back?
Today 12:09 AM

Countertop,

Let me try to answer your questions. It sounds as if you have some knowledge about the issue since you specifically mentioned Warthogs. Apparently you know someone who has imported a Warthog in the past? Or are you an agent of the USFWS? Just curious.

In any case here goes.

For instance, how do you ship your trophies back and how much does it cost?


You can either have them shipped by air or surface (sea container) and the cost will be directly in proportion to the size of the shipment. You can expect between $2,000 and $10,000+ for air shipments depending on how large your shipment is. Surface shipments are fraction of that cost you can ship a major amount of stuff over by sea for under $1000 USD but it takes a long time like 6 months and your risk of rotting and damage is higher. Your outfitter should have all the options and details for your shipments and should have those details included in your signed contract before the commencement of the hunt. I highly recommend using a competent booking agent to handle all of this stuff for you. It makes life much easier.


Are they mounted in Africa or mounted in the US? What is the mounting cost on something like a buffalo, or that hippo?

The answer to this question is yes. Either way you can have them mounted in Africa or have the horns and capes shipped back to the US I've done it both ways and either way you wind up paying about the same. Mounting is cheaper in Africa but shipping the mounted heads is takes up more room and is far more expensive to ship. Shipping skins and horns is cheaper but US taxidermy is far more expensive so it is about a wash. I find African taxidermy to be of questionable quality I've seen good stuff and some really bad stuff but I guess that is true of US taxidermy too.

The cheapest way is to have you stuff mounted in Africa and then shipped over by sea container. But there are many pitfalls you can get into when having taxidermy done in Africa. I've been the recipient of some of those problems like lost heads the wrong heads being sent over broken stuff. I just won't do African taxidermy anymore. PERIOD.

As far as the cost of having heads done you are going to have to call your taxidermist they all charge different prices there is no set amount for a specific head among the industry.


I assume you can't bring the meat back in the US. If you shoot a warthog, what special US permits do you need to bring a trophy back?

No you can't bring meat back into the US from just about anywhere but REALLY not from Africa. But don't worry all of your animals will be happily consumed by the folks over there. None of it will be wasted.

A warthog does not require a special permit but a warthog that is not a finished piece requires a health inspection at a licensed facility by a USFWS agent. There some other species that require a CITES permit to imported and some that are not importable at all. You must have obtained your CITES permit BEFORE you hunt the animal. Do not ever buy off on somebody trying to have you shoot a CITES animal having you pay for it and then obtaining the permit. It simply doesn't work that way. And once again a competent booking agent will handle all of those details for you.

I hope that I have answered some of your questions. I don't mean to sound pushy by asking you if you are with the USFW it is just strange that you singled out the only non CITES animal that is a legal issue to import.

[countertop]

Thanks.

No, I'm not a USFW service guy - but I work in the livestock business and have heard stories of difficulties in getting warthogs shipped back. I know one guy who killed what looks like a huge wharthog, but had all sorts of difficulty bringing him back in, while the cats he shot came back pretty easily.

He had the mounts done here, but had the skins cured or somehow treated in Africa.

As for wharthogs, I always assumed it was more of an APHIS (USDA) issue than a USFW (Department of Interior) issue. Just not sure.

I've told my wife I want an African Safari for my 40th birthday in a couple of years and fascinated by the process and trying to understand everything I can well enough in advance to make the booking process easy.

[H&Hhunter]

I've told my wife I want an African Safari for my 40th birthday in a couple of years and fascinated by the process and trying to understand everything I can well enough in advance to make the booking process easy.

Three words for you...

Good booking agent.;)

And good luck.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Big thumbs up, Frank - I'm envious - dang, you can sure see why the hippo is uber-deadly!

[Frankh]

Thanks to all for comments.

Bullets 400g Stewart, as was the brass.