Battle ready out of the box?
ZeppelinM16
November 16, 2009, 01:10 PM
What is one handgun(s) that you would trust to be "battle ready" right out of the box?
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Just One Shot
November 16, 2009, 01:10 PM
Springfield XD
highorder
November 16, 2009, 01:20 PM
Rock Island GI 1911.
Jeff82
November 16, 2009, 01:21 PM
<enter personal favorite here>
(I would worry less with a Glock 9mm if I had to 'grab and go'.)
TheGrimReaper
November 16, 2009, 01:22 PM
Glock 17/19/22/23/31/32/21/20/29/30/34/35.......
hillbillydelux
November 16, 2009, 01:42 PM
None. All need to prove themselves.
CWL
November 16, 2009, 02:58 PM
None.
If that is your "manual of arms" for how to enter a conflict, be prepared for death.
I have personally had 2 NIB guns fail out of box. One was a high-end Kimber and the other one was an HK. No need to mention model because this can happen with any firearm.
Any firearm that is NIB should be taken-out, examined, disassembled, cleaned, examined, lubed, reassembled, examined and tested (often) before you should place any trust in it.
Unless it is only a video-game gun, since that is the only "battle" that I'd take a pistol to.
Eightball
November 16, 2009, 03:10 PM
I'd probably pic an older S&W Model 10.
md7
November 16, 2009, 03:15 PM
i know nothing of battle, or what would or would not be good to take for one. if you are asking what side arm would be most likely to function prior to any sort of cleaning or test run and be used to reliably defend yourself, i would humbly suggest the Glock brand of pistols.
never, in my VERY LIMITED experience, have i seen or shot a Glock that failed to perform flawlessly whether out of the box or adequatley broken in. YMMV
twice barrel
November 16, 2009, 03:17 PM
Ruger Security Six
RugerDoug
November 16, 2009, 03:49 PM
Semi Autos - Glock
Revolvers - Ruger
Deus Machina
November 16, 2009, 03:56 PM
My CZ was.
I still didn't carry it until I had run a hundred rounds through it. <-hint.
md7
November 16, 2009, 04:13 PM
+1 RugerDoug,
ruger revolvers are an excellent choice for reliability if you go the revolver route. imho.
BP Hunter
November 16, 2009, 05:00 PM
My Springfield XD9 goes bang every time I pull the trigger. It has always shot point of aim. It shoots better than me and has made me a better shooter.
mjk812
November 16, 2009, 05:16 PM
XD9 hands down. Never had 1 hiccup in over 1500 rounds, cleaned twice. Wouldnt think twice about it.
InkEd
November 16, 2009, 05:23 PM
Springfield Xd is my first choice.
Friendly, Don't Fire!
November 16, 2009, 05:39 PM
Any S&W revolver.
AllisonDT
November 16, 2009, 05:49 PM
GLOCK 17 or 21 would be my first 2 choices.
-v-
November 16, 2009, 07:21 PM
Springfield XD. - I have NEVER had a hiccup from it, right out of the box. I honestly do think cleaning is optional for XDs, in case you need to kill some time or something.
Ruger P-series. The AK of handguns, 'cuz its ugly.
tkopp
November 16, 2009, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by highorder
Rock Island GI 1911.
Really? A mass-market bargain-basement 1911? Don't get me wrong, mine eventually became a nice little handgun, but out of the box 'reliable' was not in its vocabulary.
scythefwd
November 17, 2009, 03:13 AM
Any of the big name manufacturers revolvers. They may not be perfect, but they rarely don't go boom on command. Shoot, even that one (pics somewhere on this forum) that blew the barrel off went boom. It probably still could have.. with much less punch than normal for the projectile.
Dr.Rob
November 17, 2009, 03:36 AM
None. I wouldn't buy a car I didn't test drive either.
easyg
November 17, 2009, 11:42 AM
Glock.
Claude Clay
November 17, 2009, 11:44 AM
none
though the factory test fires them.
thats why they come with guarantees
highorder
November 17, 2009, 11:47 AM
Really? A mass-market bargain-basement 1911? Don't get me wrong, mine eventually became a nice little handgun, but out of the box 'reliable' was not in its vocabulary.
Really. Mine didn't have so much as a hiccup out of the box. It wasn't tight, or tuned but it fired ball ammo in fist sized groups every time.
chuckusaret
November 17, 2009, 11:50 AM
Springfield XD40
NMGonzo
November 17, 2009, 12:10 PM
ruger redhawk. 44 magnum
It will for sure fire out of the box.
Don't run for cover behind a car; you are wasting your time.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
November 17, 2009, 12:21 PM
They all need to be shot--BUT any of these I would have little doubt would work just fine if I cleaned it--loaded it up and stuck in a drawer before I ever found time to make it to the range.
Ruger P-series
Glock
Sig 226
Ruger revolvers
S&W revolvers
S&W M&P
psyopspec
November 17, 2009, 01:22 PM
The last time this question was asked, I answered with a handgun I had in mind.
Given a little more experience, my answer is two parts:
-None, after seeing a SIG go craptastic straight out of the box.
-If you're going into battle and you're confident that a handgun is all you need, I hope I'm not serving beside you.
austin360
November 17, 2009, 01:56 PM
When are you going in to battle?
oneounceload
November 17, 2009, 02:08 PM
"Battle Ready"??????? Seriously, or have you been playing COD too much?
Right out of the box ANY gun needs to be cleaned, so to answer....none
Bill_G
November 17, 2009, 02:35 PM
Any Glock except .40 caliber.
Any Ruger revolver.
If i had to pick ONE......Glock 19. (and i don't even own a 19!).
starshooter231
November 17, 2009, 03:15 PM
Sig Sauer any model
sonier
November 17, 2009, 03:29 PM
ha if they still made it ! COLT PYTHON hands down
giggitygiggity
November 17, 2009, 10:53 PM
Glock.
PO2Hammer
November 17, 2009, 11:04 PM
HK pistols have been the most reliable for me, Sigs would be my second choice if I could have a bottle of oil to go. Glock 9mms third choice.
I haven't had the best luck with revolvers, every one I've owned with the exception of the Ruger Blackhawk has either frozen up or broken a spring.(2 S&W's, Freedom Arms, Western (Uberti))
Z-Michigan
November 17, 2009, 11:15 PM
Glock
XD
Ruger P89/90/94/95/97
Ruger GP100 or SP101
mljdeckard
November 17, 2009, 11:23 PM
Sight unseen, history unknown, must have a gun right now, Glock every time.
The Lone Haranguer
November 18, 2009, 12:17 AM
The Glock 17, SIG-Sauer P226 and Beretta 92 come to mind readily as most likely to be "good to go" out of the box. (No surprise there.) Before putting my gun to work I would still verify its functioning.
seeds76
November 18, 2009, 01:43 AM
The only 2 guns that I started shooting "right out the box" without cleaning, disassembling, breaking-in, etc was the Springfield XDm9 and Glock 17. Both performed flawlessly with 100+ rounds without doing ANYTHING to it but taking it out of the box.
I have purposely shot extremely dirty ammunition out of my glock17 for a couple of hundred rounds without cleaning or oiling and it performed flawlessly. I wanted to see how it performed dry and dirty.
Because of that, I would grab my Glock17 1st and my XDm9 second. (I only say XDm9 second because I compete with it ;) ).
thriftyjoe
November 18, 2009, 02:18 AM
Polymer framed pistol's seem to bang out of the box
snow
November 18, 2009, 02:20 AM
I must admit I know this is not a high end gun but my taurus pt 145 has been flawless in 2500 rounds. When I first bought it I did not clean it took it straight out and shot 100 rounds. I then took it home and clean that night. It has fed 230gr and 147 gr ammo ball and hollow points. Not one FTF or FTE. I love this gun. While my ruger rides in my BOB mainly because of the higher capacity and lighter weight of the 9mm the PT 145 is my main carry piece and I trust it as you say with my life.
Gunfighter123
November 18, 2009, 12:01 PM
None. All need to prove themselves.
NONE , like hillybilly and others posted !!!!
In almost {99.999%} every armed combat all over the world , firearms are "tested" BEFORE they enter combat and there is a very good reason for doing so.
There are MANY firearms I would take to a Action Type competition right out of the box BUT NONE I WOULD WANT TO BET MY OR LOVED ONES LIFE ON.
Tully M. Pick
November 18, 2009, 12:21 PM
Not a one. I'd practice quite a bit with anything before trusting my life to it.
Joe Demko
November 18, 2009, 12:26 PM
Straight ot of the box?
None of them.
AFAIK, no manufacturer ships loaded guns.
skwab
November 18, 2009, 04:09 PM
There are a lot of great, very well made and reliable handguns out on the market today. But I don't care if you're buying a 2000 dollar 1911 with all the bells and whistles, or a 275 dollar hi point - it needs to be broken in. Now, if by out of the box you mean no modifications, then that's a different story - but an HK can fail just like a Taurus can - may not happen as often, but it can still happen.
But I've been happy with all of my firearms save 2 - a taurus 24/7 that I got rid of, and a CZ P-07 that the factory ended up replacing because of a recall - I still love it, but it took a little work - my other CZs, a couple of M&Ps, my wife's Glocks - all have been perfect with several hundred rounds sent through them.
ohioshooter
November 18, 2009, 09:57 PM
None of mine have had any misfires....even with reloads....so i guess all of them.
Jim K
November 20, 2009, 10:10 PM
At one time, I would have said any of them. But today, too many factories toss guns together, shove them out the door (some don't even test fire), and plan to deal with a lawsuit when it comes.
That being said, I feel that ANY firearm sold as or intended to be used as a defense gun SHOULD function out of the box*. Maybe not as smooth as possible, maybe not with a fine trigger pull, but it should work. I make an exception for target pistols which are tightly fitted and normally require some break-in period.
But, especially for auto loaders, there is another factor, the ammunition. Any new auto pistol should be fired at least 200 rounds with each carry magazine and with the carry ammunition. This is not so much to break in the gun, but to be sure the gun works with the ammunition you will use in it. With a revolver, the test can be reduced, but still the gun/ammo combination needs tested.
*OK, run a patch through the barrel!
Jim
Dogbite
November 21, 2009, 12:36 AM
Any Glock. I have owned several.
Any S&W revolver.
Any Ruger revolver.
Gelgoog
November 21, 2009, 03:53 PM
Anyone telling you to pick a X-gun or X-brand name as being 100% untested is full of ****. You should not trust your life to any gun unless you have put at the very least 500-1000 rounds through it.
Lots of guns need a breaking in period. Some excellent designs can have burrs and rough edges that cause feed problems. Some guns are ammo picky, some guns need their feed ramps polished. some guns just turn out to be factory lemons.
I could be like half of the idiots in here and tell you: Get a Glock it will always function, but anything can fail on you and you have a much higher chance of that happening if you do not put the gun through its paces before trusting your life to it.
Just because other people have never had a problem with their gun of choice, does not mean you will not. So no, there is no gun that is battle ready out of the box.
Drail
November 21, 2009, 06:26 PM
Never trust ANYTHING to be 100% "ready" out of the box. Guns, car parts, aircraft parts. I have spent a number of years rejecting and returning defective materiel. It shouldn't be this way but it is.
PT1911
November 21, 2009, 06:29 PM
xd without a doubt... likely a baretta/taurus 92 variant as well.
any quality smith or ruger revolver also.
PT1911
November 21, 2009, 06:33 PM
also... answering to not trust anything that has not specifically proven itself through umpteenuberthousand rounds is foolish. To me, the question reads something like the following... you are in your favorite gun shop who is fully stocked with all of your favorite target and "battle" handguns. All hell breaks loose and you have the time to grab one NEW gun (sorry no used or consignments in today) and all the ammo and mags you can stuff in your pockets. WHICH ARE YOU GOING WITH?
ZeppelinM16
November 21, 2009, 11:48 PM
pt1911, that's pretty much the scenario I had in mind :P
iiibdsiil
November 22, 2009, 12:11 AM
Next time you do one of these threads, do yourself a favor and give a scenario even if it is unrealistic. Thiat will cut out half the the people who refuse to just answer the darn question. I'm not sure why it's so hard on this forum, but it is.
Anyways, if I'm going to grab a gun and depend on it to fire right outta the box, it's going to be a Glock. I don't think you'd go wrong with any major/mass manufacturer of any quality though. Given the option, I'd take the Glock.
Rexster
November 22, 2009, 12:58 AM
None of them!
I have had new autopistols fail, from Detonics to Colt, Kimber to uh, Kimber, and uh, Kimber. And, Glock!
I know how to function-check an S&W revolver, to make sure the firing pin whacks a primer hard enough, and everything is in alignment and timed well enough, but I would still worry about heat treatment of parts. If a bad batch of firing pins or other parts got through QC, there is NO substitute for live fire, and I mean enough live fire to get things good and HOT.
Bones11b
November 22, 2009, 02:27 AM
I can only vouch for the CZ75 I "picked up" and used in combat. Never failed me, although I admit it didn't see much use. My current is my Sig P220 match SAO, see no need to do anything to it. Then again I hope to never have to carry a gun in to combat again. That being said, I have total faith in the Sig.
jpatterson
November 22, 2009, 09:49 AM
I would say just about any revolver, but battle-ready right out of the box? Not for my 66. It's actually quite finicky with ammo, it's dialed in just right for the .38 +P JHPs, but shoots completely different with different loads.
So... I'd say none.
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