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dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 08:00 PM
I have a remington 722 that was originally chambered in .222 in 1950 but rechambered to .223 by remington in late 1951. the trouble i am having is after 3 scopes and 3 boxes of shells i cannot sight it in at 100yds. It shoots perfect at 25yds. what is going on

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bearmgc
November 16, 2009, 08:03 PM
A good bore cleaning maybe? Also check that barrel screw on the forearm part. Maybe? Also how is the rifling? Could it be shot out?

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 08:09 PM
the bore is shiny, riflings look good, it was pretty dirty when i got it, do you think a good copper solvent would help. not sure on the forearm screw

52grain
November 16, 2009, 08:19 PM
First off, welcome to the forum. Were you shooting off hand or off of bags? Are you actually hitting the paper? If you are hitting the paper are the shots hitting all over the place, or are they hitting in a tight enough group, just not the bullseye?

MT GUNNY
November 16, 2009, 08:40 PM
What is the Rifling twist and what grain are you shooting? Also what velocity are the rounds you are shooting. What kind of groups are we talking about? Are you on paper at 100 yards?

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 08:48 PM
Thank you and i was shooting off of bags and was always hitting to the right and it was about a 10" group

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 08:53 PM
it does not specify the twist and i was shooting 55gr. steel case hp with a muzzle vel. of 3240fps

MT GUNNY
November 16, 2009, 08:58 PM
Its probably 1-12 twist, which the 55 Grain should be Good. I'm not sure about that Velocity it might be High, someone else will have to comment on that. One thing Id do is rezero at 25 then move out to 50yrds and see whats going on. "

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 09:00 PM
I will try that and keep you posted thanks alot to everyone

Strongbad
November 16, 2009, 09:01 PM
Gunny hit what I was thinking. I would think that 55 grainers would stabilize ok. You should check the twist just in case though. Also, if it's Wolf or something cheap, it could just be that it doesn't like that ammo. What else have you tried?

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 09:09 PM
wolf, and remmington but the remmington were 65gr and fmj,they came with the gun as well as the first scope, i haven't tried the first scope on anything esle it could be some wild coincidence that the first scope was off and the other could be the cheap wolf ammo.

MT GUNNY
November 16, 2009, 09:12 PM
As old as that rifle is and the Velocity's that a .222 has, I would think that it could be a wore out barrel. Whoever decided to re chamber, maybe they were trying to fix a barrel problem. Then again it could be 1-14 Rifling and a higher Velocity it might need!

MT GUNNY
November 16, 2009, 09:14 PM
65's Might be good if it were a 1-9 twist! Im pretty sure its 12 or 14.

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 09:20 PM
well i think it was rechambered by remington the .222 is marked out by xxx but is still visible and it says .223 out beside it.

guntech59
November 16, 2009, 09:23 PM
Not for nothing....I don't think Remington rechambered that rifle to .223 rem in 1951.

65gr is toolong/heavy for a 1:12 or 1:14 twist. As for the inaccuracy with 55gr....could be a crown problem. I assume you have checked the bases and rings for looseness and eliminated that as a possibility.

Are the bullets "keyholing" in the target?

MT GUNNY
November 16, 2009, 09:27 PM
I got that, its just .222 has very high velocities, that wear out barrels faster than the generally slower rounds of the .223. I am saying you need to stick to 55 Grains or Lower for optimum Accuracy. .222 was a very popular Competition round back in the day and very Accurate.

MT GUNNY
November 16, 2009, 09:30 PM
It is very likely a comp shooter rechambered it when .223 was introduced. Let us know what happens.

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 09:32 PM
thanks mt gunny i'm going to try better ammo this weekend i just got off the phone with my gunsmith and he agreed to go through it this weekend so hopefully everything will work out.

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 09:36 PM
I agree with the comp shooter theory. it is a nice piece of remington history. do you think
if i ended up having to go with another barrel in .222 that i would have to change the bolt assembly as well and do you think it would detract from the value

Runningman
November 16, 2009, 09:59 PM
wolf, and remmington but the remmington were 65gr and fmj,There is your problem. The 222 Remington 722 barrels are 1 in 14 twist usually they work best with 52 grain bullets and lighter. BTW the 223 was not around in 1951.

dasmith23
November 16, 2009, 10:06 PM
There is your problem. The 222 Remington 722 barrels are 1 in 14 twist usually they work best with 52 grain bullets and lighter. BTW the 223 was not around in 1951.
I wasn't sure when .223 came out, thats just the story that came with the gun.
thanks man I'm gonna try a good remigton sp in .52gr this weekend

burrhead
November 16, 2009, 10:39 PM
The .223 was an experimental cartridge being worked up for the government in 1957. I’m not sure when it became available to the general public but I would guess the very late 1950’s to 1960-61. Definitely not 1951.

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/223.html

Maverick223
November 16, 2009, 11:42 PM
The .223 was an experimental cartridge being worked up for the government in 1957. I’m not sure when it became available to the general public but I would guess the very late 1950’s to 1960-61. Definitely not 1951..223Rem. was designed in 1964. First, are you sure that the rifle was rechambered for .223...could it have been rechambered for another cartridge instead? Secondly, I would strongly suggest a lighter, better rounds (Hornady, Federal, Winchester, et cetera...no imported steel case junk).

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