Tonight on Modern Marvels on History Channel...


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Mike Irwin
November 7, 2003, 12:54 PM
There's going to be an overview of aircraft weaponry.

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Biff
November 7, 2003, 03:12 PM
I really enjoyed the history of the Winchester (1856?-1895 primarily).

Noticed that Winchester received a letter in 1885 from a young Theodore Roosevelt praising their product for its quality, accuracy, rapid-fire capability, lack of recoil, and the ability to kill any game animal in the United States.

Let's see...TR would have been referring to his 1873 model in .44-40 wouldn't he?

Dave Markowitz
November 7, 2003, 06:40 PM
Let's see...TR would have been referring to his 1873 model in .44-40 wouldn't he?

More likely his Model 1876 in .45-75 (not .45-70) WCF. TR's letter to Winchester praising the '76 is well-known, as Winchester used it for advertising.

Mark Tyson
November 7, 2003, 07:02 PM
How about anti aircraft weapons? I myself want one of these:

http://www.7thinfantry.com/Images/new/Quad_50.jpg

Biff
November 7, 2003, 08:58 PM
Frodo-

I believe you are correct! The program went from the '73 to the '86. I wonder about TR's comment about lack of recoil though... but he was a boxer at one time:D

Found this link on the '76 Winchester:

http://www.bar-w.com/1876v03.html

Here is a link with a photo of Roosevelt with his '76

http://www.leverguns.com/leverguns/model_1876.htm

Stickjockey
November 7, 2003, 09:32 PM
Mark-

I know where you can get one of those for just under $8000. Just add six--volt batteries and a seat. $7250:evil:

Edited to add: No it isn't mine, and it probably doesn't come with the half-track or M2's, either.

Mike Irwin
November 7, 2003, 09:35 PM
The Winchester 1876 was the first of the truly powerful lever-action rifles. It's also known as the Centennial Model, for obvious reasons.

But, Winchester still couldn't make an action long enough to take a round like the .45-70, which is why most of the rounds for the 1876 were fat a@@ bottleneck rounds.

It wasn't until a largely forgotten designer came along that Winchester was able to make a rifle that chambered the long, straight case rounds like the .45-70, .45-90, and .50-110.

The designer is so obscure today that probably few people have heard of him... John Browning... :)

45King
November 8, 2003, 07:32 AM
Holy Moses! John who? ;)

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