TEXAS-It's like a whole other country!

Double Naught Spy

November 7, 2003, 06:29 PM

Beav, even people rust in Corpus Christi!

Something tells me you will be frantically reading all the posts on what does and does not work to prevent rust on guns, especially carry guns, once you see it happen.

Not only will you see NRA stickers, but TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association) stickers as well.

My florist has several guns. It will give new meaning to War of the Roses should someone decide to try to rob the store.

Beav, see about getting your CHL and learn about your rights to protect yourself and your PROPERTY. It is allowed under specific circumstance that deadly force can be used to protect property. You never have to exercise the right, but it is an option.

Texas! It's a whole other country! D'uh!

ChickenHawk

November 7, 2003, 06:32 PM

Hey Beav,

Welcome to Texas!

If you're into baseball, the AA affiliate of the Houston Astros is building a stadium in Corpus and will start playing ball there season after next (i.e. April 2005).

They're playing here in Austin (actually Round Rock if you know where that is) right now, but the local stadium is going AAA in 2005 and they're moving our guys to you. BTW, the "they" I'm talking about is the (Nolan) Ryan family.

Anyway, it's is great fun. My wife and I have had season tickets since they started playing here - 4 seasons.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

aerod1

November 7, 2003, 07:02 PM

Welcome to Texas.
Yes there are a lot of honest, responsible gun owners in Texas, but we can always use more. We are glad you have increased our numbers. You are home now.
Jim Hall

Bill Hook

November 7, 2003, 07:04 PM

earn to love Chicken fried steak. Bar-B-Q, and Tex-Mex.

If he's from around KC, it's probably a given that he likes BBQ. He'll probably miss GOOD BBQ (Okay, Memphis is pretty good too). :neener:

Art Eatman

November 7, 2003, 07:26 PM

Lotsa good seafood joints around Corpus, and even better over at Port Aransas...I guess fresh flounder is available everywhere, right now.

And fishing out at the blue water line in the Gulf is really great!

:D, Art

November 7, 2003, 07:41 PM

I know TX is a whole 'Nuther country. I'm stuck in AR for jimineys sake.
I have hunted your quail and gone "crabbin"...even know where Harry Hines Blvd is...I really like those "speed limits" as one heads west...

Ok -- Once again I am available for Adoption ...hint, hint, hint...

I can hold my own with BBQ ,Chicken Fried Steak, seafood, and that lady in the truck stop in Victoria had the best fried apples pies I have ever eaten a dozen "just followed me to my vehicle" darndest thing...did I mention I really really like bustin' quail...

sigh...
gettin' homesick and don't even live in TX.

O.F.Fascist

November 7, 2003, 09:30 PM

Corpus Christi. Cool, this is the town I call home aswell.

joe4702

November 7, 2003, 10:21 PM

Former Overland Park, KS and Dallas, TX resident.
OP is nice, but Tejas is better in most regards - milder winters,
no state income tax, CCW, lots of gun shows.
I'm proud to call Texas my adopted home state.
Hoping to give Austin a try one of these days
as soon as I can find a job there.

Don Gwinn

November 7, 2003, 10:36 PM

Someday, by God.

4thHorseman

November 7, 2003, 10:40 PM

Ahh Texas! I grew up in Abilene. I remember putting the rifle in the gun rack behind the pick up before I drove to Jr. high. We would go varmint hunting after school. 9 out of 10 pickups had rifles in them as part of the accessories! Nobody thought any different then. We could make rifle covers in shop and we could bring our rifles in to school to see how they would fit in the leather gun case we had made for them. No one even thought of hurting anyone else with a firearm. The thought never crossed any one's mind.
If you even say the word rifle here in Virginia's schools they would call the swat team out on you. Haul you away to the pokey.
Yes, it is a DIFFERERT COUNTRY, but a wounderful place.
I haven't been back in 35 years. I miss it dearly.

glocksman

November 8, 2003, 01:55 AM

From the few people I know that live in Texas, I've got the impression that Austin is the Berkeley of Texas.

Any Texans care to comment?

Delmar

November 8, 2003, 02:00 AM

Somebody over on TFL had a signature which called Austin "Moscow on the Brazos".

Parker Dean

November 8, 2003, 02:30 AM

From the few people I know that live in Texas, I've got the impression that Austin is the Berkeley of Texas.

Any Texans care to comment?

I don't live there so I don't know first-hand, but I have heard that liberalism is rampant.

I can see as how that would happen. First you have a State government in the city and we all know those draw Leftists like flies. Next there's a University and the same comment applies. Third, and what REALLY seems to have caused the situation to have reached critical mass, the influx of computer oriented companies which in turn sucked a lot of Silicon Valley types to Austin.

dinosaur

November 8, 2003, 05:30 AM

Molly Ivans is from Austin. Answer your question?:barf:

Airboss

November 8, 2003, 07:04 AM

Welcome to TEXAS
There are only two types of people in this world:
Texans and those that wish they were.

Holly76201

November 8, 2003, 11:40 AM

Austin:
Yeah, unfortunately Austin has become the Politically Correct Capital of TX.
No Smoking in any public place and WAAAAAYYYY to many transplants from PRK and other bastions of gun control.
The Legislature is actually fairly conservative, tho, so don't blame it on them. Besides, they are only in Session every other year.

RTFM

November 8, 2003, 11:53 AM

Living in Idaho right now.
But we are planning to move back to Dallas when our daughter completes high school
She has already chosen Texas A&M for their Marine Biology course.
So I KNOW I'm coming home!

Best of luck.

RTFM

Sylvilagus Aquaticus

November 8, 2003, 12:01 PM

No man's life, liberty or property is safe when the Texas Legislature is in session. Unless they're hiding in Oklahoma or New Mexico, then it's their local problem.

There's a reason they only meet once every 2 years.

Welcome to Texas.

Regards,
Rabbit.

PeteyPete

November 8, 2003, 12:17 PM

I will make it to the promised land...

LeonCarr

November 8, 2003, 12:53 PM

Welcome to Texas.

As far as Barbeque goes, I have had Memphis Barbeque, and it is not even close to the Kreutz Market in Lockhart, or the Church of the Holy Smoke in Huntsville. There is an old saying, "I would rather be a fence post in Texas than the king of Tennessee".

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

geojap

November 8, 2003, 01:34 PM

Welcome to Texas! It's good to have another firearms owner here. You sound like you'll fit in perfectly. Corpus Christi is a nice place.

For the others comments about Austin: I've lived in Austin for 10 years. I'm originally from Dickinson, in between Houston and Galveston. Austin draws the ire of other Texans for different reasons. There are more hippies/liberals here than exist in other Texas cities. For the most part they aren't anti-gun liberals though. They are environmentalists that want to protect the beauty of their city. There is more to do here than any other city of its size in the USA. The hill country is absolutely beautiful and offers hundreds of opportunities for recreation and travel. I don't care for all the whiney Californians and other West Coasters that are moving here and are telling us how to do things with their condescending attitude about Texas. They are a blight on the history of our city. If you want to try and bring California-culture here, and tell us how to do things, get the hell outta here! I used to live in L.A. for a short time and think California is really screwed and on the wrong track. These citified newcomers have no clue about what has made Austin special in the past and what it should continue to be. Austin has a special culture where rednecks and hippies came together in the 70s and made some of the best music ever. Willie, Waylon, Janis Joplin, Stevie Ray, etc. I love that I can go swimming in the swimming holes of Barton Creek in a city park, right in the middle on a city of a million people. There are plenty of gun rights advocates here too. Red's, Hill Country Rifle Range and the Austin Rifle Range (in Manor) are all great places to go shoot. Of course the hippies don't know anything about firearms and the second amendment, but they are the minority in Austin by far and they aren't actively trying to restrict gun rights here. I think they realize its a no-win situation to try and restrict gun rights in Texas. Left wing politics doesn't control our city like in Chicago, Boston and Philly. But we do vote to protect our environment around here. I think that's a good thing. The people want to retain the recreational use of their lakes, streams, watering holes, aquifers and parks.

Austin isn't perfect but it's damn near close for a city of this size.

I'm from Texas, and my family's been here since just before the civil war. My father worked for the US goverment (Army Corps of Engineers in Galveston) and my family moved around quite a bit. After I found out what I wanted to know about the world I came back here. I'll probably never move away again. It has everything that I want in life (except for some tall mountains to hike and climb in) and has a culture that I deeply respect.

glocksman

November 8, 2003, 09:29 PM

Molly Ivans is from Austin. Answer your question?

As far as liberal columnists go, Molly Ivins isn't all that bad.

She can at least write clearly and sometimes makes good points despite the vitriol. If nothing else, her and Jim Hightower are entertaining.

Whereas Ellen Goodman couldn't write a coherent column or make a logical point if she had to in order to save her life.

Even Texas's liberals are more intelligent than Eastern liberals. :D

FireInTheHole

November 8, 2003, 09:50 PM

So... are there any states besides AZ, TX, and AK to live if you are a "gun nut"? I'm stuck in KS for at least another year...:( plan on movin back to AZ soon however! :)

James Bondrock

November 8, 2003, 09:55 PM

I'm a ChickenHawk and you're a chicken.

That boy, ah say that boy's got bats in his belfry! ;) :D

James Bondrock

November 8, 2003, 09:57 PM

So... are there any states besides AZ, TX, and AK to live if you are a "gun nut"? I'm stuck in KS for at least another year... plan on movin back to AZ soon however! Nevada is a Right to Carry and a Class III state.

Kenneth Lew

November 8, 2003, 09:57 PM

From the few people I know that live in Texas, I've got the impression that Austin is the Berkeley of Texas.

Any Texans care to comment?

I went to UT for 5 years and saw none of that.

Kenneth Lew

FireInTheHole

November 8, 2003, 09:59 PM

Nevada is a Right to Carry and a Class III state.

So basically avoid most of the northern type states eh?:barf:

goon

November 8, 2003, 10:39 PM

PA is Shall issue and anything federally legal is good to go here.
Lots of rednecks.
But the job outlook sort of sucks and it stays too cold for too long around here.
I am planning on going south when I finish school anyways.
Texas may be on my horizon as well.:D

Greybeard

November 8, 2003, 10:45 PM

Welcome to Tejas. Lots of diversity here.

Yea, Austin does have some extremists, but quite possibly notorious due to some media of similar mindset.

My daughter is in second year at UT and is an officer in newly-formed "social organization" for female students, it's primary focus being "cultural education for young women". Their last meeting was for them to learn how to play poker. :cool: The agenda for the next meeting: One of the girl's boyfriend is going to explain the game of hockey ... And she's asked about borrowing one of my self-defense videotapes for a meeting early next semester ... ;)

Double Naught Spy

November 8, 2003, 11:42 PM

Gun nuts? No. Gun enthusiasts? Sure!

Austin is the the Bezerkeley of Texas. No doubt.

keederdag

November 9, 2003, 01:21 AM

I'll take AZ any day Tex boy's. We can have loaded guns on our person or in our car without a permit. We have pretty much the same CCW system that you have, know why? Because yours was modeled after ours....FACT. I like Texas, but for a place that you must have a permit to carry a loaded handgun, you guy's dont have it all.

PS: As a AZ native, TEX-MEX sucks.:D :D :D

FLAME AWAY LOL.....Course I got miles of TX jokes.:D :D

tonerguy

November 9, 2003, 02:04 AM

There's a place called Cotton's BBQ in Robstown outside of Corpus on the way to Harlingen on HWY 77 that's worth a visit. Serve tender brisket, ribs, etc. on waxed paper with a thick slice of onion. Beans and bread on the side. Extra slice on the house when you're ready.

November 9, 2003, 02:20 AM

Houston,
Got kinfolk that way, a cousin whom does undercover...
ya'll have nice eatin' joints yourself. Been stuck in the Wasburn tunnel lately?
Been awhile, but last time went into a family owned drug store, cousin and I checking out the guns ( smith wheels) while our mom's looked at cards...
:D
Mom&Pop druggist, get B-day cards, wrapping paper...and ring that model 36 up while your at it...:D

Zundfolge

November 9, 2003, 02:54 AM

Wouldn't've thought Kanas would be that much different....
As someone born and raised in Kansas who just made his escape a year ago (to the rarified air of the Rocky Mountains) I can tell you Kansas is NOT a pro-gun state.

Its still one of the anti CCW holdouts (for that matter, most of the larger towns forbid open carry), there's no NFA and at least half the Republicans are RINOs.

Once my parents are dead and I convince my brother to abandon the place and head for the high country, I doubt I'll ever set foot in the state again (except maybe to drive through it on my way to somewhere else).

My only problems with Texas are its flat, humid and they gots BIG BUGS! But the people are great (well ... except when they come out here to ski ... then they seem to lose all sense :neener: ).

Langenator

November 9, 2003, 08:31 AM

So basically avoid most of the northern type states eh?

Idaho is shall issue, recognizes permits from all other states, and, given that there exists an organization called IDAHO AUTOMATIC WEAPONS COLLECTORS' ASSOCIATION, INC., I'll make the assumption that Class III is legal. :D

Montana is also Shall-Isse, not sure about Class III.

Of course, it can get a tad chilly up there in the winters.

I'd love to live in Texas, but I love mountains and green forests.

Art Eatman

November 9, 2003, 11:15 AM

Look at a highway map of Texas: West of I-35, the humidity gets rather low, other than down near the Gulf Coast. Is that enough dry area for you?

Mountains? In Big Bend National Park, you can hike from the HQ at 3,500 feet to the top of Emory Peak, at 7,800. That ain't Pikes Peak, but it's not what you'd call flat, either. You can descend from Emory Peak to the Rio Grande, at about 1,900. There's about 3,200 feet of change in the Davis Mountains, from 5,000 to 8,200, which is a pretty good hike. Guadaloupe Peak in Guadaloupe National Park reaches on up to some 8,400.

The Hill Country isn't heavy timber, like eastern Texas, but it's green all year round. Lotsa tree cover. Live oaks are Nice Things, along with elm, pecan and cedar trees.

There's pretty much something for most anybody, somewhere around the place...

:), Art

keederdag

November 9, 2003, 12:24 PM

Just about like everywhere else out here in the west. There's sand dunes and desert in Wyoming and Colorado. TX is a good state. TEXANS Overate it BIGTIME. Every state has it's own particulars. I lived in TX for a while, it's less gun friendly law wise than manny places out west, and more people friendly than most places out west. Natives have notoriously Big heads, and they should understand that the rest of us dont see that picture. When I lived in Colorado; I was suprised there wasnt a season on Texans, they were hated so much.:D

El Tejon

November 9, 2003, 12:32 PM

Yankee here, sticking up for Austin. It's a great city you should love it, with the exception of that socialist rag of a newspaper.

Saw Austin for the first time this year. Thought it was great even with the chickens in the street, just gave it more character. Tejas is good for guns, lots more onerous laws than I am used to, but aus Kansas, should be a welcomed relief to you.

Of course, the only other city in Tejas I've seen is Saint Tony's (unless you count Kerrville as a "city" and not a "town", not sure), but Austin was fun too as I recall (remember most of it, mid-30s slowing down). Remember, no matter where you run, there you are.:D Get the gig first.

Grey, I will be returning to Austin in the Spring (have to get done a couple more times before TR goes TU). You like sushi? The head chef at the best joint down there is from West Lafayette.:D

Chip00

November 9, 2003, 03:00 PM

Loved Austin when I went to summer school there at University of Texas Law School. Liked the true fresh TexMex food, cool swim spots and nice live music. And cold beer. I still like those things after all these years. (Semi-retired now). Now Texas has real wineries, too. Texas also has beautiful sunsets, beautiful women, and little tiny armored things that get killed in the road.
I am even thinking of moving back there...

Moparmike

November 9, 2003, 03:58 PM

Man, I must meet the wrong Texans. I never seem to meet the nice ones.

Maybe I can find out where all you nice Texans hang out and come visit.:)

BTW, AR is a Shall Issue state and a Class III too.:D

geojap

November 9, 2003, 04:01 PM

It's funny, I wouldn't say Texans are necessarily 100% nice. We're very hospitable and mannerly, but hospitality is a little different than being "nice".

I think we're more like a bed of rattlesnakes, ants or hornets that will pour you a coup of coffee and invite you to their rock with them. Leave us alone and we're benign. Stir us up and watch out.

And if you're from Arkansas, I can see why someon wouldn't think that Texans are very nice........ That goes waaaayyyy back, before I was born, heh heh. Same with Oklahoma.

fallingblock

November 9, 2003, 08:36 PM

"There's pretty much something for most anybody, somewhere around the place..."

It is a whole 'nother country:D

Ironbarr

November 9, 2003, 09:10 PM

Check and see if Nella's Blue Note is still on Lexington Blvd, huh? Only been 42 years - probably not. Lone Star & Pearl - $.25 - Bud $.35. She kept a gun close.

Oh days of yore.

pax

November 9, 2003, 10:10 PM

I'm not seeing a lot of gun-related content in this thread.

Sure hope it takes a turn topic-ward pretty quick, as it would be a shame to close it just because it isn't really gun-related anymore.

pax

keederdag

November 9, 2003, 10:25 PM

Please shut it down; it sickens me:D

tonerguy

November 9, 2003, 10:37 PM

There are many IDPA and IPSC clubs in Texas, including Corpus, San Antonio and Austin. Houston and Dallas have lots of shooting clubs. In fact, there's lots of gun-related activities all over Texas.

I'll even bet that if you go outside right now and fire a magazine full into the air, you'll meet a bunch of guys with guns within minutes. :D

Is that gun-related enough?

keederdag

November 9, 2003, 10:40 PM

Like it would be different in NYC.:neener: You guy's all special order yer hats over there or what? Mr. Potato head must be from Tejas:D

twoblink

November 10, 2003, 02:21 AM

My buddy is shootin' wild boars in Texas.. A cop pulls up..

Tips his hat, and says.. I don't think that's legal to do around here..

The cop then pulls out a business card, and writes his home address on the back of the card.. and hands it to my friend. "Why don't you drop some of that over here when you're done." And leaves.

I was shocked... Turns out, old high school friends.. Wanted some free bacon.. :D I love Texas!!

HankB

November 10, 2003, 09:22 AM

I've got the impression that Austin is the Berkeley of Texas. Moscow on the Colorado - that's Austin. The worst thing about Austin is the traffic - the idiots "running" the city figured the best way to curb traffic was to build fewer roads, thinking that with no roads, there'd be no development.

Anyway, I got here several years ago after too many years of suffering in the People's Republic of Minnesota. ("The state where absolutely nothing is allowed.") Now I live just west of Austin . . . and love it.

note to moderator pax: requested gun-related content follows!

Even here in liberal Austin there are a number of good gun shops and there are frequent IDPA and USPSA matches. There are also things like "Carbine" matches where people sometimes show up with full auto or suppressed firearms. I still chuckle about one recent match where a fellow had a suppressed AR15 clone, and wasn't wearing ear protection. During a "housecleaning" stage his carbine malfunctioned, so he had to transition to his pistol - loaded with Cor-Bon - to complete the stage. With no ear protection. (Eh? What's that you said? Speak up a little!)

One bad thing about Texas: There's not much public hunting land. "Deer Leases" are the rule, and there are a lot of managed ranches for exotic game as well as whitetails, but prices are IMHO nuts - I've seen as much as $10,000 asked for a trophy whitetail! (Deer leases are generally a lot cheaper . . . but still more expensive than hunting public land. And TX deer run small . . . my neighborhood is noted for large numbers of urban deer, and sizewise, they look a little like brown German Shepards with antlers.)

tonerguy

November 10, 2003, 10:09 AM

"...my neighborhood is noted for large numbers of urban deer, and sizewiase, they look a little like brown German Shepherds with antlers."

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought they were little brown German Shepherds with antlers. :D

El Tejon

November 10, 2003, 10:12 AM

Gun stores in Austin, Tejas: remember if you go to McBride's, TURN LEFT upon entering. El Tejon was lost for a good 5 minutes.:D

[Yankee accent] "Pardon me, does not this establishment offer firearms for sale, my good lady."

"Of course, you ijit! [jerks thumb] Thatta way."

Skunkabilly

November 10, 2003, 10:41 AM

But if I move to Tejas, I won't be able to carry my Beretta at school :D

Pain

November 10, 2003, 11:18 AM

I've Lived all over this State, Lubbock, Midland/Odessa, Dallas and I currently live in Ft.Worth. But Rockport, Texas is where I plan on hanging my Gunbelt when it's all said and Done. I have just as much Pride in Being a Texan as I do Being an American, I think all Texans are that Way. It is Truly Gods Country. And There isn't more of a stereotypical Texan than My self ( So some of my Northern Friends Tell me) I Drive a Pick-up Truck ( Chevy Of course), I have a Cowdog that Rides in the Back. I own a CB-radio , My truck has Big Tires on it. I've got a Stetson In my hatrack mounted on the headliner. I do actually Have a Few acres of land that Does have Oil "pumpjacks" on it, to bad I down own the Mineral Rights.I carry a handgun. It's good to To be a Texan, Welcome To Texas, you'll be wonderin why you did'nt get here Sooner. Nextime Im Down In Aransas County, Or Nuaces County, I'll Maybe Buy you a Good ole Texas Steak Dinner!!

Ironbarr

November 10, 2003, 11:59 AM

Is the Aransas County Airport still small(ish) or has it grown? I lived in Rockport a year in '57-58. Navy bounced ADs from Cabiness and Kingsville there. Had a few crashes (the planes had NO GUNS aboards - There! I got it legal (I hope).

Good memories.

-Andy

Smoke

November 10, 2003, 01:23 PM

Texas is great.

No place has ideal gun laws...TX included.

We do have CHL. You can carry a long gun withh you anytime you want. Local hardware store stocks good gun inventory and shooting supplies.

We have mountains, prairies, canyons, forrests, rivers, lakes, cities, country, desert, wetlands. While we don't have lots of public land, that can be a good thing. Everybody and their dog(s) aren't running on the same spot you are trying to hunt.

Tex-Mex can't be beat. Much better than that AZ stuff that tastes like the junk served up in ...oh....maybe, New Mexico:D

Barbeque is better than other places. Some already mentioned and let me add Bunkhouse Barbeque in Clifton, TX. Hole in the wall place has the best ribs ever.

Austin is liberal. But its Texas liberal; as opposed to Kalifornia Liberal.

Our democrats leave the state whenever they don't get their way. We're still working on how to keep them from coming back.:D

It is a great place.

Pain

November 10, 2003, 02:44 PM

Is the Aransas County Airport still small(ish) or has it grown?

It is still Small(ish) My dad lives about a mile from there. I love it down there (rockport), I just Can't Make a living in my line of work there. Rockport City Motto " a quiet little drinking town with a fishing Problem"
Gotta Love It !!

Ironbarr

November 10, 2003, 03:13 PM

Check PM

Pain

November 10, 2003, 03:34 PM

IronBarr.......YGM

Holly76201

November 10, 2003, 05:08 PM

Pax, to keep this gun related...
I love TX being a Concealed Carry state. I've hade my CHL since they were first available. And my husband was in one of the first CHL instructors classes.

Moparmike,
Sorry you've met some jerky Texans. There are a few, just like any other state. We can't all be perfect. Shoot, I've got some jerks in my own family, but we try not to talk about them too much, and we dang sure don't invite them to Thanksgiving dinner! LOL.

Keederdawg,
Man o man, you post many more like your last few and I'm changing into my asbestos undies. What set you so firmly against an entire state of folks?
I hear lots of venom and wonder.
:eek:

Holly

Pendragon

November 11, 2003, 02:08 PM

Well, we have been here for about 2 months and I have not got my CHL or purchased any firearms yet.

I like it here ok, but I miss home a lot. Say what you want about how messed up CA is, it is a great place to live, but the liberals and the commies have made it all but unliveable.

That said, there is a chance we may end up moving back. We have no family here and we are expecting our second child early next year. I am working from home right now but I am not sure how it will work out.

I have met one THR member and his wife in person and that went really well. The best people really do hang out here.

I am thinking about checking out Austin. My wife is into home decor the way most people on here are into firearms. It's what she lives and breathes. Sure, I moved to a great gun place, but now the tables are turned. Gun stores everywhere, but she can't find the stuff she is into.

I am thinking that Austin may be close enough to California that she could stand it. I don't mind the hippie/music/enviro types at all and since the gun laws are still Texas laws, it might work.

I avoided Austin in favor of San Antonio because I thought homes in Austin would be too much - but with the tech recession, that may be changing.

As it is now, there is no guns or CHLs or houses in our immediate future - we are in subsistance mode - trying to get by. Maybe we will feel better about it here when we get on our feet - who knows.

None of this is an indictment against Texas and Texans - so far, as a group, I prefer them to any the people in any other place I have lived although Alaskans come close.

As much as I dread moving back to California, I dread making my wife miserable even more. So if we have to head back, I will be maxing out my CCs buying all the handguns I can take back and own in CA, but not buy there - what a weird place...

Daniel T

November 11, 2003, 03:25 PM

Pendragon, if you want to check out Austin, send me a PM. We can hook up at one of the many ranges around these parts. Don't worry if you don't have anything to bring; I have quite a few things that go bang. :)

...

The Hill Country in general, and Austin specifically, is a great place to live. I was born and raised here, so I might be a bit biased, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Sure, Austin has liberals...less than Dallas or Houston, but they're there. You might want to check voting records (http://204.65.104.19/elchist.exe) before trying to crown Austin as the liberal capital. One thing Austin actually has a lot of is libertarians, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

Pendragon

November 11, 2003, 10:12 PM

I do appreciate the offer, but if we make it to Austin, it will be to let my wife shop around and possibly see if we would move there.

I am hoping it is cultural/artistic in the way that she misses home - then maybe she would be more into the idea of staying here.

As it is, she knows how expensive it is where we lived, and is not excited about that, but the humidity and lack of things that interest her is making it very hard.

TechBrute

November 11, 2003, 11:10 PM

Texas has surprisingly strict gun laws. Not that they're all THAT bad, but they're more strict than one might think.

In regards to the Austin comment, it is probably the most liberal city in Texas. Again, nothing like you'd find on the left coast, but more liberal than the rest of the state. Part of that is the infusion of bay area blood as Austin has started to emerge as a technical mecca so to speak. There's quite a few tech and bio-tech companies in Austin.

westex

November 12, 2003, 01:40 AM

A few people always seem to gripe about how liberal Austin is. They're right but it would only take two minor changes to cure that. (1)-move UT ( at least all the faculty and administration) to Marfa and (2) move all state employees to Dalhart. Problem solved. :D

Holly76201

November 12, 2003, 07:04 AM

Westex, ROFLOL

but Marfa is too good for them, let's make it, oh, say, Amarillo.:evil:

Azrael256

November 12, 2003, 02:27 PM

Will you people please shut up about the barbecue? Seriously. If you keep it up, I'm going to miss a psychology test this evening because I'm going to high-tail it back home to find something good to eat. Oklahoma BBQ is nice, but it just doesn't quite cut it.

Austin may be (ok, it is) Moscow on the Brazos, but it's a damn sight better than most state capitols. And whoever thinks that this thing about the state reps running off to Oklahoma and New Mexico is a big outrageous thing... heh... read a history book. We do everything bigger in Texas, including outlandish political stunts.