Super Colibri experiences??


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Psssniper
November 7, 2003, 04:48 PM
Anyone have any experience with the Super Colibri .22 ammo??
Anything similar out there? Better maybe?
This would be used in a Ruger 10/22 with an 18" barrel
I need something "vewy qwiet"

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cordex
November 7, 2003, 04:57 PM
My experiences:
*click-pop* .... *thunk*

Very quiet, but not very powerful. Wouldn't choose to use it on anything larger than a smallish bird if I wanted to kill it. That said, a good hit at close range could probably take a squirrel or rabbit out.

Better: suppressed .22?

DMK
November 7, 2003, 05:31 PM
I've shot a lot of them in bolt actions and lever actions. I don't think they would cycle your semi-auto.

They are quiet. All I hear when shooting is the click of the hammer dropping and the thwap of the bullet hitting the target.

I do know that they aren't all that quiet in a Ruger Single Six wheelgun though.

cordex
November 7, 2003, 05:39 PM
As DMK says, these won't cycle in a semi-auto, and often don't feed from magazines. Ruger rotary magazines especially.

Skofnung
November 7, 2003, 05:50 PM
In my experience, CB caps are far better than the Colibri offerings. Of course the Colibri's are a little quieter. It depends on what you want to do with them.

I did a little experiment once with a friend of mine that claimed that CB caps were useless for anything except plinking and that getting shot with one would be about as bad as getting hit by a pellet gun.

I found an old and beat up (but still functional) hardhat that was down in the barn and set it on the ground. I stood back about 10 feet and fired a CB out of an old bolt action that we were plinking with. The bullet went through one side of the hardhat and burried itself in the other side!

I then went inside and got my pellet gun and shot the hat with it. It made a deep dent, but it did not penetrate the helmet. I know this pellet gun is capable of killing possum sized animals with one shot, having done it before (head shot from about the same distance).

Whatever you decide to get, be careful, and the same rules apply as apply to any other gun. I am almost positive a Colibri or a CB cap can kill under the right (or wrong as the case may be) circumstances.

JimJD
November 8, 2003, 01:57 AM
I've been really tempted to try them in my bolt action Marlin, but I read this on "cheaper than dirt's" page:

This ammo is intended for .22 handguns. Aguila .22 Super Colibri is super-quiet ammo that does not contain gunpowder but fires from the force of the primer only. Powerful and silent, great for use in urban areas. This is a 20-grain bullet in a brass case. Will break glass and penetrate hard tin cans. Velocity is 500 fps (11 foot-pounds) at the muzzle and can be lethal. This ammo works great and is intended for .22 handguns only. There are 50 rounds per box, 10 boxes per 500-round brick. We sell this by the 500-round brick. A full case would be 10 bricks or 5,000 rounds. Non-returnable item; we will not accept any returns on this. Do not use in long-barreled guns, as the projectile may become lodged and be dangerous (lethal) if a regular cartridge is shot as a follow up. Will not work the slide in semi-auto handguns.

It could be some Legalese A** covering from CTD's legal dept. but maybe not. I'm not taking the chance only to find out the hard way.

PrudentGT
November 8, 2003, 05:30 AM
Just to add my experiences (which have been mirrored and mentioned above):

Super Colibri out of .22 revolver -- just loud enough to make it unpleasant w/o hearing protection. Super Colibri out of Ruger 10/22 -- the bolt being pushed back (not fully cycled, but pushed out of battery) is the loudest thing you'll hear. And *do* make sure the bullet clears the barrel -- I haven't had one lodge in there, but the disclaimer does give one pause.

JA
November 8, 2003, 10:12 AM
Colibri and RWS BB and CB's are the quietest 22 rounds you will find when fired in a rifle. The RWS ammo has such short cases that feeding in anything but a singe shot is iffy.
My 24" barreled Rossi pump rifle fires Colibri just fine. The first ones I fired were at the rifle range and all I could hear was the hammer falling till I took out my ear plugs. My RWS magnum air rifle makes more noise than Colibri ammo does.
Chronographing the Colibri and Super Colibri I got 375fps and 475fps out of my rifle.
The loudest subsonic 22 round I have fired is the CCI 22 CB shorts followed by the CCI 22 CB longs.
Firing any 22 ammo out of pistol is a waste of time if you are trying to be quiet.

Al Thompson
November 8, 2003, 10:42 AM
What you going to use it for? :)

IME, CB longs work fine for squirrels. The Colibri stuff is inhumane even with head shots.

CB longs are quieter than CB shorts.

The Colibri's are the quietest.


The loudest "subsonic" .22 rounds I've fired is match grade ammo. :) Most of the good brands won't exceed 1,100 fps at sea level.

TNT
November 8, 2003, 11:22 AM
I have shot the Super Colibri out of my single six and henry lever action and it is a very quiet round. I also shot one in my CZ and the bullet lodged in the barrel.:( I think the CB caps are the way to go if your after something quiet and want some accuracy.

stevelyn
November 8, 2003, 12:36 PM
I recently bought a couple of boxes of Super Colibris to test out and play with. These things are addicting. I ordered two more bricks. I shoot them out of my Winchester M-290 and haven't had a problem with them yet. They feed well enough from the tube magazine, but the bolt has to be manually operated since there isn't enough oomf to cycle the action.
I've used them in my house with a 1/2" marine plywood back stop. They are powerful enough to consistently stick flush in the plywood. Ones that don't usually spend their energy and drop straight down on the floor. Almost all deform and mushroom to some degree. All have been very accurate from living room to kitchen distances. :p As far as their performance on living creatures don't use them on anything you wouldn't use a pellet gun on. They do however put the smack down on magpies.:D
One thing about the my Winchester is that it has a 20" barrel. The bore has been conditioned regularly with Tetra lube, which may have some bearing on why I haven't had a bullet stuck in the barrel yet.
I also bought a couple boxes of the Sniper SubSonics, but more on these later.

Psssniper
November 8, 2003, 02:09 PM
What do I need them for?? buwahaahhahahahaaa

Fade out: The camera pans backward from an idyllic nighttime back yard scenic shot through the sliding door to reveal a man holding an RWS Diana model 45 air rifle. He is loading a Beeman Silver Jet magnum 4.5 mm round in the chamber.

The sniper assumes that classic "marine sniper drawing" pose, seated, elbows on knees and slides his cheek along the rifles stock to achieve the perfect eye relief through his Bushnell 3x3x32

a bead of sweat drops from his brow

The camera does the cheesy through the scope shot and as the focus becomes clear, there we see the snipers nemesis...... the Possum
The possum is casually eating the cats food and is unaware of the danger
that he faces from the highly trained killer

The Possum looks up in alarm at the sound of the sniper clicking off the safety, not seeing the sniper (the art of camoflauge!!) he goes back to the cat food.

We see the snipers finger take the slack out of the trigger and then hold at the breaking point, the cross hairs are lined up directly under the Possums ear. Tension builds as the eerie music swells.............

Anyway, suffice to say that the sniper forgot to click any adjustments in his elevation, (the rifle being previously zeroed at 25 yds) and the possum lived to see another day. Dohh

keederdag
November 8, 2003, 07:48 PM
Hum......can you see though yer scope on your .22lr rifle with a liter bottle attached?:D :D :D Seriously, try the Aguila super sub sniper. They usually cycle, are quit silent out of a rifle, and penetrate 1/8" steal sheeting at 5 yrds, so they should take care of that poor misunderstood possum, that is just trying to get along.:D Personally, I'm a sucker...I'd probably just bring in the cat food, or feed the little #astard. I once shot a kit fox with rubber buckshot, and he came back, so I just let e'm. He really wasnt hurting much, and my cats were bigger than him. So I filled the bowl when it was empty. He didnt invite friends, so we got along. He wasnt too happy about the rubber buck though.:D

Psssniper
November 9, 2003, 12:28 AM
Mom wanted the Possums routed out. Seems they have made her for an easy mark an she gets a ton of 'em plus racoons by the bushell. All this in the city no less. The invaders harass her cat and hiss at her and she got kinda scared and called for backup. That the whole story.

CWL
November 9, 2003, 01:02 AM
I personally would doubt that the .22gr super colibri at 350-500fps would be an effective possom killer, certainly doubtful as anti racoon bullet- the ones we have here in N. CA seem to be around 30lbs (I am cursed with a family of 5).

But I would love it if you posted your results.

One thing I used to do while shooting these out of my Ruger pistol (louder than rifle), was that I would shoot from inside the room so that the room would contain most of the sound. Wear hearing protection and be aware that the primer smoke really stinks. Never heard any complaints.

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