Kalashnikov on colbert report


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chevyforlife21
November 20, 2009, 12:42 AM
anyone watching it on comedy central? colbert showed a breif of the history of the gun and the designer and he even had a real ak on his desk. anyone thats seen a few episodes of this show knows he is pro gun. i just happened to have it on accidentally and heard Kalashnikov so i had to watch it. it was for nov 10th when it was Mikhails birthday

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armoredman
November 20, 2009, 01:27 AM
Darn, sounds like it would have been interesting. No Youtube yet?

RP88
November 20, 2009, 04:28 AM
I wouldn't call Stephen Colbert the person pro-gun, but his personality is slightly pro-gun.

psyopspec
November 20, 2009, 04:38 AM
anyone thats seen a few episodes of this show knows he is pro gun.

Satirically. The point of his show is to skewer politicians, primarily those on the right.

Not denying that it's entertaining, just trying to clarify.

ny32182
November 20, 2009, 10:46 AM
Colbert Report and Daily Show, while definitely clever and funny at times, spend the majority of their time slamming any politicians who are right of center. I'd be very surprised if either of them ever suggested anything pro-gun, other than sarcastically.

malix
November 20, 2009, 11:21 AM
Rob Riggle used to be on the Daily Show for a few years. He was formerly a Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines, and is very pro-2A. I recall Jon Stewart mentioning that he took the staff out to the shooting range once.

While I enjoyed the Kalashnikov segment on the Colbert Report, they were a bit late. His birthday was last week. :rolleyes:

Justin
November 20, 2009, 11:34 AM
anyone thats seen a few episodes of this show knows he is pro gun.

I once heard someone claim that upwards of 80% of the populace was incapable of grasping sarcasm.

At the time, I thought that claim seemed a bit ridiculous.

Mikee Loxxer
November 20, 2009, 11:56 AM
Uh you guys realize that The Colbert Report is satire don’t you? That means that even if Stephen makes seemingly pro-gun statements they are not to be taken seriously. Gotta love what our media is doing to our impressionable electorate.

Juice Boxes
November 20, 2009, 12:08 PM
You can watch the full episode here:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/109996/the-colbert-report-thu-nov-19-2009#s-p1-so-i0

chevyforlife21
November 20, 2009, 01:37 PM
the daily show is anti gun also john stewart is a democrat and supports hillyary clinton and the Brady campaign and Diane feinstein. the colbert report is pro gun he is also republican he didnt support obama till after he seen the fact that he wasnt gunna take our guns.

X-Rap
November 20, 2009, 01:51 PM
he didnt support obama till after he seen the fact that he wasnt gunna take our guns.
I don't know about Colberts politics but I have seen no reason for dropping my guard in regards to BHO. Can you elaborate on these "FACTS"

gatorjames85
November 20, 2009, 01:52 PM
As has been already said, I think there is some confusion here about the nature of Stephen Colbert's persona on the Colbert Report (which satirizes right wing pundits) as opposed to his real-life views.

Wikipedia article on Colbert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_colbert#Personal_life

chevyforlife21
November 20, 2009, 01:58 PM
the guy has a gun on the wall on wall hangers on his show all the time. after seeing that wiki pedia im an really confused. so he is actually bashing the 2nd amendment this whole time?

Dumptruck
November 20, 2009, 04:55 PM
Colbert mocks right wing pundits. That is the whole premise of his show. The guy is very liberal and made the tv show persona as a way to make a mockery of all things Conservative.

You can find Colbert's speech from a White House press dinner with Bush. The guy lays the sarcasm on thick and you can definitely tell that it made Bush uncomfortable.

I am amazed that people are incapable of seeing Colbert for what the show is supposed to represent haha.

Gelgoog
November 20, 2009, 05:24 PM
I have been a colbert fan before he was even on the daily show...so that is some what 15 years? He is what I would call a liberal maybe a conservative liberal. He is no where near john stewart super liberal, but he is certainly not right wing. He show was created as a satire version of the O'riley report, the idea came up during a daily show skit.

So yes, he loves to mock all things conservative especially the 2nd amendment. I wouldn't necessarily call him anti-gun, but being a new yorker he probably is not pro-gun either.

zhyla
November 20, 2009, 05:25 PM
I am amazed that people are incapable of seeing Colbert for what the show is supposed to represent haha.

I did not think this was possible. How could someone not understand his show and still watch it? What would they laugh at? Do they think it's like Bill O'Reilly? IT'S ON COMEDY CENTRAL for crying out loud.

Wow. Anyways, love his show, but I have never heard of him being pro-gun.

danweasel
November 20, 2009, 05:26 PM
From what I have seen on The Daily Show, they are not anti-gun. They are very anti-politician though. They try to spread it around a bit but you have to admit that Rebulicans are just easier to laugh at a lot of the time. John Stewert did skewer Joe Biden pretty good the other day on the stimulous thing

Also did anyone see the Cobert Report the other day about "the bullet standard"? He was talking about the weakness in the confidence of the dollar since it is not backed by gold anymore. But since ammo is such a hot commodity now we should back our dollars with ammo. I dunno, go to Comedy Central and watch it, it was funny.

Yes, I have spelling problems.

chevyforlife21
November 20, 2009, 06:38 PM
hey im a new yorker and pro gun as it gets. im not from the city though i live in the woods upstate. but colbert isnt a new yorker he always said hes from south carolina unless he lying about that too.

Gelgoog
November 20, 2009, 07:01 PM
ya ya i know he is from SC, but you will find that there are alot of NYC liberals who have never been around a gun in their life and are either anti-gun or at least very weary of them. This is pretty common for alot of people who live in major metropolitan cities. So you can apply this to people living in DC, chicago, detroit, etc.

THE DARK KNIGHT
November 20, 2009, 07:17 PM
The show wasn't anti-gun, just anti intellectual. Rather than describe the history of the gun they just made fun of the majority of it's current users. These guys make fun of politics, that's their show. You have to admit, it is much easier to make fun of conservative politicianss than liberal politicians. I still watch their shows from time to time, the daily show is usually very funny.

nwilliams
November 20, 2009, 07:29 PM
While I agree that Colbert and Stewart are not on our side when it comes to gun ownership I have to admit they are both very funny shows and enjoy watching them for a laugh.

The truth is I don't have any particular fondness for most politicians and politics in general so watching Colbert and Stewart poke fun at either doesn't really bother me. To be quite honest I find myself in agreeing with a lot of what they make fun of. The truth is a lot of what goes on in Washington and in the media is a joke, Colbert and Stewart just help point that out to us.

THE DARK KNIGHT
November 20, 2009, 07:32 PM
Exactly.

In the strange, twisted, ironic world we live in, Stewart and Colbert's comedy reports on politics are probably the only objective journalism on TV.

Vonderek
November 20, 2009, 08:07 PM
Uhh, you guys do realize that Colbert and Stewart are comedians and not real journalists, right?...and that they have staffs of comedy writers that write their material?

nwilliams
November 20, 2009, 08:36 PM
Uhh, you guys do realize that Colbert and Stewart are comedians and not real journalists, right?...and that they have staffs of comedy writers that write their material?

True they do have writers, but I would bet my bottom dollar that they are naturally funny guys who didn't get to where they are by riding on the backs of writers. Almost any comedy show has writers but they are they not what makes the show funny, it's how the actors pull it off that makes it funny.

As to whether they are journalist or not, both Colbert and Stewart have made it clear many times on the show that they are not, they are pundits.

Of course if you watch any of the news shows on CNN, FOX News or ABC you're basically seeing the same thing, only those people are actually considered journalists, sad as it may seem. I don't see much difference between what Glen Beck and O'Reilly do compared to Colbert and Stewart, they are just at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of political views either way I would consider them all pundits.

X-Rap
November 20, 2009, 08:50 PM
The truth is often stranger than fiction therefore I watch MSNBC. They are a "real" news organization that is more rediculious than Stewart or Colbert ever could be.

bluecollar
November 20, 2009, 08:56 PM
Ah come on. It's easier to make fun of conservatives as opposed to liberals? Every time Biden and Algore open their mouths its a laugh riot!

SharpsDressedMan
November 20, 2009, 09:11 PM
Both Stewart and Colbert are at least thinking individuals, not mindless sluts like some other left wing reporters or SNL. I respect Colbert for going to Iraq and giving the fighting men & women some air time, recognition, and entertainment. I don't think I have seen any other "lefties" shave their head and put on a set of cammies, or go into a war zone.....

danweasel
November 20, 2009, 09:30 PM
They also raised a crapload of money for veterans doing a benefit of a kind I can't remember. My buddy got to see/meet Stephen in Iraq and said he was cool as (all get out). I do think they care for us in action, not just words like some other pundits.

nwilliams
November 20, 2009, 09:52 PM
Both Stewart and Colbert are at least thinking individuals, not mindless sluts like some other left wing reporters or SNL. I respect Colbert for going to Iraq and giving the fighting men & women some air time, recognition, and entertainment. I don't think I have seen any other "lefties" shave their head and put on a set of cammies, or go into a war zone.....

Well said!

I remember watching those episodes of Colbert and Iraq and it really gave me a lot of respect for him. He seemed to genuinely have a ton of respect for the troops there and certainly showed his appreciation for them. Sure he poked fun at the military but it was in a lighthearted way and it was more about him poking fun at himself.

sig228
November 20, 2009, 10:14 PM
He could use a lesson in muzzle discipline. After his guest came out, the gun was pointed at the audience for the rest of the interview. However, the guest actually made a comment at about 8:10 that "we don't want it pointed that way" but Colbert ignored the comment.

Clark
November 21, 2009, 12:23 AM
http://www.politics.com/video/7310e80c6e15/stephen-colberts-difference-makers-gun-control/

I must be sarcasm sensitive.
Colbert is an anti gun liberal.

bgrav321
November 21, 2009, 12:50 AM
I've seen colbert criticize both sides of the aisle with his biting humor...he wasn't super kind to obama, which was hilarious.

ganymede
November 22, 2009, 02:02 AM
I made similar post with the vid clip link in the general discusion forum. frankly im supprised that so many people dont realize the show is satirical. personaly, im a fan of stewert/colbert they dont hide their bias (well colbert doesn't intend to anyway) I thought the show posited a very neutral point of veiw on the ak.

there may have been a few tongue-in-check comments but for the most part, what they said about the ak was true and i didnt hear anything that made my blood boil (while i fully expected to at first.)

here is the other post on this with a vid link

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=487570

ganymede
November 22, 2009, 02:36 AM
I'd like to say i watch the report and stewart every night, its one of my fav shows. ive never heard stewart say hes was in faor of any kind of gun ban, and in colberts case, ie neer heard him say that he was agianst one. the only really anti gun thing ive heard from colbert is from the above posted vid. It did piss me off to watch, but i also laughed, and you have to admit, drunk rednecks talking about why they need guns in bars is an easy target. keep in mind, i would think most people know this already, but 90% of what stewart or colbert says oustside of an interview was written by writers and not by them.

ive also herd them make fun of the left on number of ocasions and they are no more forgiving of dems then repubilcians. also, stewart describes himslef as "the most trusted name in fake news" and colbert describes himslef as a "fundit"

as to the original topic, i thought the ak-47 peice was fair and the few jokes they made were light hearted and not really anti gun in the strictest sense. perhaps this signals a change of mindset scince the above posted piece? i can only hope.

General Geoff
November 22, 2009, 02:48 AM
I watched the video segment, and I'd say if there was any "bashing," it was light hearted and in jest. Yeah I cringed a bit at the AK with magazine inserted and action closed, sweeping the audience, but at least he had his hands nowhere near the trigger.

nwilliams
November 22, 2009, 05:58 AM
I have a question...

If that was a real AK wouldn't it be illegal to have it in NY due to the assault weapons ban? Also it had a hi-cap mag inserted in it, aren't high capacity mags also illegal in NY?

I assume the gun belonged to the guest Colbert had on the show, did he get special permission to bring it to the set, let alone the State and city?

cyclopsshooter
November 22, 2009, 06:04 AM
You can find Colbert's speech from a White House press dinner with Bush. The guy lays the sarcasm on thick and you can definitely tell that it made Bush uncomfortable.

I once heard someone claim that upwards of 80% of the populace was incapable of grasping sarcasm.


bush...

ganymede
November 22, 2009, 06:15 AM
Here is a recent segment that makes me believe that jon stewert might be pro gun, or at least not anti-gun the relevent part of the video starts at 4:15. stwerart also sticks it to msnbc earlier in the clip for using fake pictures of sarah palin, and trying act like they were real.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/109887/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-rogue-warrior#x-4,vclip,1,0

warning clip may contain coarse language.

cyclopsshooter
November 22, 2009, 06:38 AM
great clip (and right on the money) but i saw no gun reference

ganymede
November 22, 2009, 09:16 PM
he says his favorite part about sarah palin is that she's pretty and she likes to shoot.

ganymede
November 22, 2009, 09:23 PM
"If that was a real AK wouldn't it be illegal to have it in NY due to the assault weapons ban? Also it had a hi-cap mag inserted in it, aren't high capacity mags also illegal in NY?"

not sure about new york but i know that in california movie companies and TV shows get a special expemtion to the assault weapons ban there. thats so you dont see every bad guy in every movie you watch using an sks or the like

NMGonzo
November 23, 2009, 12:32 AM
Old Steven confusing people again

The guy is hard to "read".

atblis
November 23, 2009, 12:52 AM
Looks airsoft to me.

Nick5182
November 23, 2009, 01:13 AM
I wouldn't necessarily call him anti-gun, but being a new yorker he probably is not pro-gun either. Lol, well I think being neutral towards gun ownership is a hell of a lot better than being supremely anti-gun. Just take a look at Michael Moore's views on anything right-wing. He thinks conservatives are demons and firearms are the staffs with which they torture.

chevyforlife21
November 23, 2009, 01:17 AM
ganymede: i live in new york not the city though differnt rules there. we are allowed to have an ak with a hi cap mag, as long as the mag was manufactured before 1994. the gun can be new.

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