Question regarding Marlin 1894 lever action 44mag


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scubadown
November 22, 2009, 06:00 PM
I am looking at buying a Marlin 1894 lever action in 44mag. It has the shorter factory ported barrel. Does the ported barrel reduce recoil? Is it detrimental to accuracy at say 100 yds? Would you say the shorter ported barrel is a plus or minus.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Tom

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greyling22
November 22, 2009, 06:33 PM
neutral. more flash and noise from the ports, but I like the idea of a shorter barrel. I like my shorter barrel 1894c better than my 1894 44. recoil on a 44 in a marlin isn't a big deal (and I'm recoil sensitive) so parts aren't a huge factor there.

scubadown
November 22, 2009, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the comment greyling22.

Balrog
November 22, 2009, 08:24 PM
The 44mag 1894 has light recoil, and porting is therefore not helpful.

scubadown
November 23, 2009, 08:14 AM
Would you guys think there would be much difference in range/accuracy with the shorter barrel (at 100 yds)?

Al Thompson
November 23, 2009, 08:22 AM
Nope. In fact, a shorter barrel may shoot better, everything else being equal. If your sticking with the iron sights, it may not be quite as easy to shoot accurately, but the accuracy will be there.

CZguy
November 23, 2009, 12:32 PM
Would you guys think there would be much difference in range/accuracy with the shorter barrel (at 100 yds)?

I have the short, ported barrel, (1894P) and it shoots quite well at 100 yards with a Lyman receiver sight. Prior to that it was like shooting a pistol at 100 yards. The longer sight radius of the receiver sight really helps me.

DMZ
November 23, 2009, 12:48 PM
Is the gun you are looking at a 1894P?

scubadown
November 23, 2009, 02:22 PM
I haven't actually seen the gun yet. The web listing is "Marlin 1894 lever action 44mag with shorter factory ported barrel with rail mount for optics"

Here is a pic

snorko
November 23, 2009, 03:48 PM
Very nice. Those 16.5" variants tend to go for a premium around my area.

DMZ
November 23, 2009, 05:17 PM
Exactly. They were only made for a year or two and are gaining some value as collectors.

If you want a quick, light weight rifle with some punch, grab it scuba'.

I love mine, as I usually hunt in heavy timber/cover and it makes getting around a good deal easier.

rcmodel
November 23, 2009, 05:23 PM
GET IT ASAP!!!

I have the short, ported barrel, (1894P) and it shoots quite well at 100 yards with a Lyman receiver sight. Same here.
Pistol like accuracy with the factory sights.

A small gold bead front and Williams receiver sight made a rifle out of it.

Then later, a Leupold 2x pistol scope on an XS Leverscout rail made a real rifle out of it!

rc

scubadown
November 23, 2009, 07:00 PM
Just bought it. It feels great and so light.
Why do folks not like the cross bolt safety? Seems fairly unobtrusive.

Where can I get the small gold bead front sight?

Thanks

Hanzerik
November 23, 2009, 09:20 PM
Brownells is where I got mine from for my Puma. It is a Marble's 1/16" bead .450" Tall

http://home.bresnan.net/~hanzerik/pics/Puma/Trapper%20Front%20Sight%202.JPG

scubadown
November 24, 2009, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the info.

One more question. I notice some people have the scope mounted in front of the receiver and some have it on top of the receiver. Why the different mounitng positions?

goon
November 24, 2009, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the info.

One more question. I notice some people have the scope mounted in front of the receiver and some have it on top of the receiver. Why the different mounitng positions?

It works well for a long eye relief scope, puts the scope between your hands (which does affect balance in a different way), and allows you to keep peep sights as your back up.

rcmodel
November 24, 2009, 02:09 PM
Why do folks not like the cross bolt safety? Seems fairly unobtrusive. It is unobtrusive until the first time you just get a click instead of a bang when a big buck is in front of your sights.
I had mine get bumped or inadvertently left ON while coyote calling when I first got it nine years ago, and it has worn a rubber O-Ring to lock it OFF ever since.

Lever-guns don't need no steenk'n cross-bolt safety to be operated safely!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/O-ring1.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/rcmodel/O-ring2.jpg

rc

ArmedBear
November 24, 2009, 02:11 PM
Williams sights add an unsightly twig and dirt catcher to the side of the gun. They're not the only way to get a good iron sight on a Marlin.

Check these out: http://skinnersights.com/

Scroll down. The regular ones are the best, I think.

CZguy
November 24, 2009, 02:32 PM
Williams sights add an unsightly twig and dirt catcher to the side of the gun. They're not the only way to get a good iron sight on a Marlin.

I think that you are correct.................I prefer Lyman. :D

goon
November 24, 2009, 10:25 PM
To make the crossbolt safety more user-friendly, you can take the stock off and adjust the screw that holds the spring-loaded detent for the safety until it's so damn tight that you need both thumbs to put it on.
Then it's still there and functional but it's also not at all likely to cause you any grief.

scubadown
November 26, 2009, 10:05 AM
Can you guys recommend a scope for the 1894p. Should it be mounted in front of the receiver or behind it.

CZguy
November 26, 2009, 10:56 AM
Can you guys recommend a scope for the 1894p. Should it be mounted in from of the receiver or behind it.

Just a thought................unless you are shooting past 150 yards or so, a good set of receiver sights is every bit as good as a scope. They are lighter and much faster also. ;)

TomADC
November 26, 2009, 11:16 AM
I shoot a 205 cast bullet mild load and a 240 jacketed with a bunch of Winchester 296 behind it recoil isn't bad in either. The ports will probably help that even more, but I don't like shooting around somebody with a ported gun, way to loud!!

ECVMatt
November 26, 2009, 11:32 AM
It is one of the most desirable models of 1894's out there. I have both the standard length and the P version. I really like the P version the best. I have XS sites on mine, but would agree with Armed Bear that the Lyman and Williams sites are a bit much for these short rifles. I have Skinner sites on my 39A and they are great. I would suggest both of those.

I would stay away from the scope on this one unless your eyes need the help. It really takes away from handiness of the rifle.

Matt

scubadown
November 28, 2009, 11:27 PM
Would really like to have a recommendation on a medium priced scope.

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