Which MOA is better?


November 24, 2009, 01:12 AM
So Im going to get a Aimpoint but was wondering which is better? the two moa or four? Most of my shooting will be 100 yrds and under. I might want to get a maginfier though later on and hear the dot would be big.

the two moa people say just turn the brightness up higher and it will be bigger.

Which is the better one?

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November 24, 2009, 01:40 AM
My personal opinion here is the 4 moa and forget about the magnifier.

That is for general overall usage, and it would change my opinion if target shooting is your plan.

November 24, 2009, 01:42 AM
Most of my shooting will be in a 25yr indoor range.

I dont think red dots were really designed for long range precision shots.

November 24, 2009, 01:43 AM
4 MOA, and from what I understand, it works OK with the magnifier (it was explained to me that the relative dot size does not change in comparison to the target/background because the magnifier magnifies everything). I see people running the H/T-1 series Aimpoints with magnifiers all the time which are only available in 4 MOA, so no problem.

I wouldn't "forget about the magnifier". It's a very viable option, especially with the flip to side LaRue mount.

The Aimpoint isn't designed for precision target shooting. It is designed to help you get hits on target quickly in all conditions, a true combat optic. It will work on the "out there" targets and the dot won't be obscuring them because you'll be holding over.

November 24, 2009, 02:00 AM
Also which aimpoint to get? Im turn between ML2, M2, ML3

is the ML2 good?

November 24, 2009, 02:19 AM
All of them are good. The most cost effective Aimpoint is the C3. Aimpoint doesn't skimp on quality.

I'd buy the lowest cost Aimpoint LaRue has on their site with their mount...whatever you do, don't buy ARMS. I'm assuming you don't need NV compatibility and deep waterproofing (you're not punching out of a sub, are you?), so you can save money by foregoing those features. LaRue and BoBro mounts are the only mounts I'd touch, with the nod towards LaRue for their awesome support of the troops and excellent deals on their sites.

I'd also look at the Aimpoint T-1 or H-1 at LaRue, too. They are what the cool kids are running...

November 24, 2009, 10:01 AM
As a new AR aficionado, I'm all ears and questions....so whats wrong with ARMS?

November 24, 2009, 10:08 AM
so whats wrong with ARMS
They seem to have a history of falling apart. Though I do not own one, I have not read or heard anything good about them in recent memory.

November 24, 2009, 02:29 PM
so whats wrong with ARMS?

Crap material (cheap cast aluminum...the casting isn't the problem, they just aren't done well), they'll either be too loose or too tight (or if you are very lucky, just right), they'll stretch, and eventually break. Worthless crap. Plus, Dick Swan, owner of ARMS is an unpleasant individual who is very, very sue happy.

LaRue stuff is good to go, nearly indestructible, will actually return to zero every time, and LaRue really supports the troops great. And LaRue will take care of you if you ever have a problem.

It's easy to avoid ARMS, unless you are issued and have to use a piece of their gear...such some models of the Eotech sight with their levers built in.

November 24, 2009, 03:09 PM
It depends upon what you're using it for. I like 2 MOA, but I shoot bullseye pistol.

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