[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Was surfing around here and came across a 5 shot .31 with a 4 inch barrel. Asking price..well over $27000.00..Reckon it would shoot any better than my Uberti? Somehow I doubt it....

[BHP FAN]

I bought one for $150.00 and gave it to a friend a few years back.Just about the most common Colt ever made.At $37000.00,they were awfully proud of that revolver.You can still find a good example on the auction sites for under a grand.That one must have been. Col. Colt's personal garter gun...LOL.
And you're right,it ain't gonna shoot any better than Aldo Uberti's or Alessandro Pietta's product.

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

BHP, I corrected the price. Not 37000. I meant 27000 plus..Does Pietta make the .31 pocket?..

[romel]

I buy very rare this one with cannon of 3 " and only me cost 250 Eu. (It he throws very well).....

[Jim K]

I cannot imagine an 1849 model selling for that price. I have several, a couple in very good condition, and never paid over $750.

Are you sure the 27,000 is dollars and not some other currency? Maybe one absolutely perfect and genuine, engraved and gold inlaid, with a presentation engraving from U.S. Grant to Abe Lincoln would fetch that kind of money.

Jim

[pohill]

I looked at this one in Maine yesterday. It was marked down to around $1495 and I asked what their lowest price would be. The manager told me $1200.
It has the original owner's name engraved on the backstrap. All matching, very tight, very smooth, very tempting.
http://www.ktpguns.com/interior.php/pid/28/gid/114264

[Jim K]

Unless the original owner was a person of note (a Google search might be worthwhile) I consider that price too high. Matching numbers are the rule rather than the exception, as those were civilian guns, not military guns that might be rebuilt or have parts swapped in the field.

Jim

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

I don't know, but that's what it said. It may have been a mistake because I have gone back over the sites the best I could remember and I haven't been able to find it again. I do remember it was listed and offered by some 'house'. Looked like a regular ol' '49 to me..

[Sagetown]

BHP, I corrected the price. Not 37000. I meant 27000 plus..Does Pietta make the .31 pocket?..

GOTC: This one just came in from Cabela's. It's a Uberti Pocket Revolver. Pietta makes a small Remington .31. The top revolver is a Pietta 1860 .44

http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/FourBee/1849n1860colts1.jpg

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Thank you Sagetown. Good looking pictures. Yeah I'vd got a couple of the Uberti Colt .31's. I shoot one of them quite a lot. Alway's have. I like it. That .44 '60 you have posted was John Wesley Hardin's favorite go to revolver.. I don't own one of them but I do know quite a bit about Hardin and I didn't get it from some made up bulls*** movie...Thank's for posting..

[StrawHat]

GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL

... That .44 '60 you have posted was John Wesley Hardin's favorite go to revolver.. I don't own one of them but I do know quite a bit about Hardin ...

I know he used one in his youth, did he continue to favor them after cartridges became common?

[Sagetown]

Yu'all got my curiosity up so I did a little search and found that as you said StrawHat. Hardin used an Army Colt .44 on his 1st victim. But later, acording to the article, he began using two guns. A Colt .45 ; and a 1851 Navy .44:confused: Did they make a Navy in .44 back then ? I'm only familiar with the .36 caliber. What say GOTC, I'm still curious ? :)

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Don't know. I just know that according to old Ranger records out of Texas he carried the '60. Dosen't mean he didn't own a couple of different kinds maybe on his person or in a saddlebag as a backup. Hell, I reckon almost everybody owned at least one .36 back then. He was like a lot of people back then. I know one thing. I'vd got a lot of respect for him, and so did the Texas Rangers even though most of his exploits actually transpired outside of the State of Taxas....

[mykeal]

a 1851 Navy .44 Did they make a Navy in .44 back then ?
No, so you might reconsider the veracity of your source.

[Sagetown]

Right On mykeal; I figured the writer didn't know his guns on that one, but you never know what's in the woodwork.

[Nicodemus38]

the only way the 49 pocket could be worth 27,000 american would be if it had been in 100% percent condition in every way, not even a line on the cylinder from testing the action back in 1849. and in a presentation case, with all items there and in at least 99% condition, and be letterable to when it was made, and to who it was purchased, and why.

ive seen 49 pockets in that condition range that were marked down 5,000 by the seller simply because the original nipples had been peened down by the original owner.

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Nicodemus38, anyway, I know I saw one but I couldn't go back to it and got tired of searching real quick. Sort of like these 40,000 dollar Walkers or whatever. It just dosen't mean hardly anything to me. I just can't connect with the idea there. For one thing I certainly don't have that kind of money, but even more meaningful to me is the fact that I'll just be damned if I even want a firearm I'm scared to shoot for fear of de-valuing it or something....

[pohill]

They're out there.
Check out this from the James D. Julia Auctioneers :

"lot 2012. EXTRAORDINARY DELUXE ROSEWOOD CASED & DELUXE GUSTAVE YOUNG ENGRAVED COLT PRESENTATION GRADE MODEL 1849 POCKET PERCUSSION REVOLVER.
(est.$90,000 - $160,000)
SOLD: $184,000 "

Also:
Fairfield, Maine - On Monday October 6th & Tuesday October 7th (2008) the U.S. Stock Market plunged nearly 10%, the world economy flirted with catastrophe but in Fairfield, Maine an assemblage of rare antique guns brought extraordinary results, despite the economy. A Colt Walker pistol, made for use in the Mexican War, and considered to be one of the finest examples in existence sold for a spectacular $920,000. This was the most expensive, single firearm ever sold at auction in the world. Julia’s held the past two World Records for Walker Revolvers with previous sales of $480,000 and $432,000.

[Mike OTDP]

Yup. But note that such a gun is about as valuable as you can get without provenance to a famous individual.

FWIW, I paid $3K for a Pocket Model in Excellent condition. That was on the high side (Colt made as many Pocket Models as everything else combined), but you know one thing about originals...they aren't making any more of them.

[pohill]

Check out the auction site - lots of pricey guns. You have to register to view the auctions (free registration)
http://jamesdjulia.com/firearms.asp

[poetgrey]

I had to share...This is my 8in New Army pictured with an R&D 45 Colt conversion cylinder. This pistol has seen lots of action handled by all members of my family. In fact, my sons first experience with firearms has them gripping the walnut stocks of this black powder revolver. The other picture is of my brand new 1860 Army purchased this year and is still unfired. I bought this pistol with the idea of converting it to a snubby. Something I've always wanted was a short barreled black powder revolver with a loading arm. Distractions have prevented me from starting this project and am preoccupied with a recently assembled AR15 which I have fallen in love with. Still, black powder shooting and all their associated weapons remain steadfastly first in my 2nd Amendment heart.

Footnote: Both pistols are Uberti's.

[BHP FAN]

Over on SASS Praire Dawg has a couple nice snubs...or did. Sixguns don't last very long over there,for some reason...