Anyone own a Llama 111A .380?


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dsv424
November 28, 2009, 12:09 AM
I had to order several parts for this gun for a friend of mine because he lost them and one of the parts was the recoil spring. The one I got seems too long for this gun. It bends to one side as it sits in the slide and I have to carefully slide the frame so it won't pop out. Can someone please measure their recoil spring and let me know how long it should be. The one I got is slightly over 4 inches long. Thx for any info.

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HisSoldier
November 28, 2009, 01:56 AM
Mine is 4" long, spring coil ID is 1.208", OD is .280", wire diameter .031", there are approximately 28 coils. This gun functions very well. This is a locked breech gun from 1972 (Q1)

ku4hx
November 28, 2009, 07:53 AM
It's very common for new recoil springs, and magazine springs, to be longer before use. Once through several compression cycles they "settle in" to the proper, shorter, length.

Where did you order your parts? I own a late 1960s vintage Llama .45 ACP "Especial" and would like to get a spare part or two.

dsv424
November 28, 2009, 08:03 PM
I got this name from Poppert's because they didn't have the parts I needed, but this guy had everything for the Llama I was rebuilding. Hope he can help.

Jim Shaffer
PO Box 381
Irwin, Pa. 15642
412-672-6830

larryh1108
November 28, 2009, 09:51 PM
I own several Llama .380s, I work on them and stock most parts. I am confused when you say it bends to one side as it sits in the slide. If it means what I think it means then it sounds like the recoil spring guide may be too short. IMO, you should not compress the spring until the slide is on the frame and the last thing you do is put the recoil spring plug on, push it in and rotate the barrel bushing around it. If you compress the spring while the slide is not on the frame then, like you said, you can kink the spring. These springs are extremely hard to find (I do not have any extras) and you need to be very careful when you compress them. If you need any other parts or general guidance then feel free to send me a message.

dsv424
November 30, 2009, 02:26 PM
Larry, it appears I was re-assembling the gun incorrectly but this raises another question I have. Where on the barrel does the recoil spring guide sit? It seems that there are 2 lips on the barrel where I can set the guide. Sorry if I seem ignorant of this gun but when I got the gun it was in pieces so I had to figure it out on my own once I got the missing pieces.

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