7.62x39 single action revolver


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sprice
November 29, 2009, 01:25 PM
How can I get one, does anyone have one, how much are they, do they even make them?! :) thanks

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Weedy
November 29, 2009, 01:32 PM
When I finish engineering school, I'll make one for you along with my double-action revolver carbine...
Seriously though, Ive never heard of one, but...you can get a .30 carbine revolver, that's the limit of my knowledge on this topic.

sprice
November 29, 2009, 01:40 PM
Hahaha. Well that's to bad I think it would be fun to have one to go along with an ak. :P

R.W.Dale
November 29, 2009, 01:48 PM
Wont work.

Heavily tapered bottlenecked cases at rifle pressures don't work well in revolvers. Apoun firing such case designs wedge themselves against the breachface tight enough to prevent the cylinder from turning.

Even my 30-30 BFR would suffer from this and 30-30 has much less taper and a lower pressure rating. To keep the gun running the cylinder bores had to be swabbed down with alcohol removing all traces of oil

MCgunner
November 29, 2009, 02:21 PM
What, a .45-70 ain't enough?

http://www.magnumresearch.com/images/bfr_homepix.jpg

MCgunner
November 29, 2009, 02:23 PM
Or, how's about a 600 nitro express? Hell, why mess around?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5882/600gun1lr0.jpg

mljdeckard
November 29, 2009, 02:27 PM
What is it you want it to do that you can't do with existing revolvers?

The Lone Haranguer
November 29, 2009, 03:06 PM
Or, how's about a 600 nitro express?

:what:

At least it wouldn't suffer from case setback. :uhoh:

wheelgunslinger
November 29, 2009, 04:00 PM
What is it you want it to do that you can't do with existing revolvers?

Hahaha. Well that's to bad I think it would be fun to have one to go along with an ak. :P

R.I.F.

That's a neat idea. It might be easier to fashion a pistol that fires the commie round after the style of a broomhandle Mauser.

rcmodel
November 29, 2009, 04:05 PM
You can get a 7.62x39 barrel for a T/C Encore SS pistol and learn how to reload real fast!

That is the only practical handgun in that caliber I know of.

BTW: Yes, I know they make AK-47 pistols, but I did say "Practical Handgun".

rc

SDC
November 29, 2009, 04:13 PM
There's a real problem with trying to fire a bottlenecked round in a revolver, in that the shoulder blows out forward, pushing the case back against the breechface, and tying the cylinder up; a single-shot revolver isn't much of a revolver.

w_houle
November 29, 2009, 04:43 PM
Wasn't it the reason the S&W revolver in .22 Jet didn't sell very well?

sprice
November 29, 2009, 07:40 PM
''What is it you want it to do that you can't do with existing revolvers?''

I want a revolver that I can share ak rounds with.

Nicodemus38
November 29, 2009, 10:23 PM
the cheapest way to do this idea would be to modify the barrel and cylinder of a handgun using a long enough cylinder, the 45-70 bfr should have enough cylinder length.
The real issue is to design a breach plate design INTO the cylinder such that it prevents blowback or at least binding. and has the ability to swign out for reloading.

MCgunner
November 29, 2009, 10:25 PM
See, I went the traditional way and bought a RIFLE in .357 magnum. :D

sprice
November 29, 2009, 10:38 PM
But I want a single action not a swing out double action...

JWF III
November 30, 2009, 09:45 AM
At least it wouldn't suffer from case setback.

No, it just suffers from "shooter setback".:what:

Wyman

Nicodemus38
November 30, 2009, 10:16 PM
if you use the correct setup for cartridge holder in the firearm, it could be done very fine in a SAA providing you get one that has sufficent space for the cylinder and the adaptive gear to prevent cartridge binding.
the loading gate would make it slightly more complicated in machining, and make it cost more but its easily designend. manufacturing isnt. i actually have prototype idea for this already.

rcmodel
December 1, 2009, 02:29 PM
Well good luck with that.

You must be way smarter then all the other firearms designers in the past who couldn't make high-pressure bottleneck calibers work in a revovler.

rc

FullEffect1911
December 1, 2009, 03:26 PM
You must be way smarter then all the other firearms designers in the past who couldn't make high-pressure bottleneck calibers work in a revovler.

It isn't that it can't be done, it most likely can't be done economically. Many very strange things have been accomplished because someone was told they couldn't do it.

Not to may people will buy a revolver that costs 10 times more then a comparable product. That and it wouldn't be something that we are accustomed to, it would likely have to look "wrong" in order for it to work. I just don't think people would go for it either way.

Jim K
December 1, 2009, 05:04 PM
It is not nice to throw the cold water of reality on someone's dream.

Jim

Nicodemus38
December 1, 2009, 11:26 PM
if i recall correctly the issue of rearword case thrust has been covered in various patents for cartridge conversions of black powder revolvers, both in the 1860s and in corrent times.
The problem is to combine them in ways that are easily fit into a revolver frame, at this point only a few revolver frames would work based on CASE LENGTH, namely the taurus judge in 3", the BFR series, etc.

Cartridge length, etc of the x39 may proclude it from being a large production weapon, however many fine bottle neck pistol cases come to mind. Would love a .30 mauser in a revolver.

actual rifle rounds may prevent the use of a swingout cylinder due to end shake unless the dan wesson double latch system was used after beefing it up. The majority of my ideas would not require any modification the the frame.

Nicodemus38
December 1, 2009, 11:44 PM
if you dont like the idea of someone solving the idea send me to a gun company that makes guns for a few days to have them "break my dreams" as some would like to be.

KBintheSLC
December 2, 2009, 02:42 PM
Its most likely not going to happen for many reasons as stated above. Perhaps you can just get a revolver that is chambered in something that is .30-ish so you can use the same cleaning brush on it. ;)

rcmodel
December 2, 2009, 03:14 PM
The OP should shoot a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk some time, then decide if he can handle any more muzzle blast then that!

It will get your attention, right now!

rc

FullEffect1911
December 2, 2009, 03:29 PM
It will get your attention, right now!


I would bet the fireball coming out of a relatively short barrel would do the same.

I would actually like to see that... from a short distance behind the shooter :)

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