Who said that a full size 1911 is hard to conceal?


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Mil Novecientos Once
November 8, 2003, 10:45 PM
People ask me at the range why I carry a 1911; these are their reasons why I should not to carry a 1911:
1. The "Colt .45" is an old desing and only old scholl people like them.
2. They are too big and bulky to shoot and conceal.
3. They are unsafe because of the single action trigger.
4. Only 7+1
5. They are unreliable.

Here are my responses:
1. Handled my first 1911 at the age of 25, been in love ever since. I'm 29 now and my CCW is a SA 1911 Loaded.
2. Mine is in a Fist K1 IWB and it just disappear under a t-shirt. Besides that I have not found a gun that fits my hands better.
3. Thumb safety, grip safety, and finger off the trigger are enough.
4. Accuracy is final and a .45ACP JHP makes a big hole.
5. Practically all malfunctions can be traced to ammo and magazines. My 1911 dislikes Fiocchi and some comercial reloads. Runs like a champ with Federal's AE, Speer's Lawman, CCI, UMC, and Winchester. I've been shooting lately el cheapo PMC (400 rounds) with out any malfunction.

When they finish bashing the 1911 I usally let them shoot a couple of rounds with my gun after I teach them basic operation and handling. When they empty the mag they have a big grin. Their comments are that they they like the ergonomics, the trigger is awesome, recoil is not what they've expected, accuracy is great, and finally ask how much I payed for my gun and where they can learn more of the 1911. :D
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denfoote
November 8, 2003, 11:21 PM
I carry a Springfield 1911A1 Loaded in a Kramer Belt Scabbard.
I also carry a Galil Comander clone in as DeSantis Belt holster.
I have no trouble with concealed carry.

Tamara
November 8, 2003, 11:37 PM
Who said that a full size 1911 is hard to conceal?

Certainly not me. ;)

7.62FullMetalJacket
November 9, 2003, 12:25 AM
Not me. My concealed carry pieces include a 4 inch .357 mag or a P14-45. I have big hands and do not like the less thans.

Zundfolge
November 9, 2003, 02:19 AM
well as long as you're standing or walking (and with good posture) you're fine ... in fact with that style of carry you could probably conceal an HK Mark23 SOCOM as long as you never sit down or bend over.

Problem with full size guns is as soon as you sit or bend over or twist your torso to the left or right the longer grip of the gun prints.

Now reasons 1,3,4 and 5 are just nonsense :)

C.R.Sam
November 9, 2003, 02:54 AM
Not me.

Sam

Poohgyrr
November 9, 2003, 03:39 AM
Those are just poor misguided souls crying out for a proper education ;).....

Blueduck
November 9, 2003, 04:36 PM
All us folks who regularly drive 200 miles per day ;)

Zach S
November 9, 2003, 06:40 PM
I'm 6ft tall and weight 155lbs. I have no problem concealing a GM 1911.

El Tejon
November 9, 2003, 06:48 PM
Has anyone at THR said this???:confused:

I've always figured this was a more educated crowd than to say THAT.:scrutiny:

DMK
November 9, 2003, 09:48 PM
3. They are unsafe because of the single action trigger.
3. Thumb safety, grip safety, and finger off the trigger are enough. Not only that, but the thumb safety locks the slide and prevents it from moving when reholstering in a tight holster.

Personally, DA pistols with no safety scare me. A lot of NDs happen due to something getting caught in the trigger guard when reholstering a loaded weapon. I'll stick with cocked and locked thank you.

cool45auto
November 9, 2003, 09:51 PM
Nice pics! That's what I've been saying about the Beretta 92FS!

BamBam
November 9, 2003, 11:46 PM
Great for many people but not practical for electricians, carpenters, plumbers, HVAC techs or other tradesmen.
It's hard for anything but pocket carry if you have to climb ladders, reach overhead and roll around on the floor regularly.

9x19
November 10, 2003, 09:34 AM
Who said that a full size 1911 is hard to conceal?

The follow-on quesion which immediately springs to mind, considering there are so many fine Commanders, Officers, and Ultra Compacts readily available, and that old saw about short slide 1911s not being reliable has been put to rest by both Kimber and Springfield, is:

WHY would you WANT to carry a full size 1911? :scrutiny:

Tamara
November 10, 2003, 09:45 AM
Because bigger guns are easier to shoot well...

El Tejon
November 10, 2003, 10:18 AM
. . . and manipulate more readily. It's all about the gunhandling, marksmanship, mindset triangle. THEN it's about the bling-bling.

9x19
November 10, 2003, 12:40 PM
Because bigger guns are easier to shoot well...

Tamara,

Does this mean you favor the long slide pistols, ala the STI Trojan, for daily carry? :evil:

DMK
November 10, 2003, 01:50 PM
The follow-on quesion which immediately springs to mind, considering there are so many fine Commanders, Officers, and Ultra Compacts readily available, and that old saw about short slide 1911s not being reliable has been put to rest by both Kimber and Springfield, is:

WHY would you WANT to carry a full size 1911? I always want to carry my full size, steel frame, Govt. model. It's nice and big, heavy to absorb recoil, and shoots like a dream. If I was to enter a postal match and could shoot any of my pistols, my choice be between it and my huge N Frame Highway Patrolman. If I needed a handgun in my palm to save my life, I'd pick one of those two also, with the edge going to the 1911. In fact, I do carry the Govt. model often.

However, you do make a valid point 9x19. Since I purchased a Colt CCO, tested it with my defensive ammo and it's earned my trust, I usually carry that gun. It's much lighter, the shorter OACP grip conceals better and with a 4.25" Commander barrel, it packs just about the same punch shooting the same ammo as it's big brother. The lighter weight doesn't really make that big a difference. The CCO is still very accurate and I'm only down one round with the shorter grip.

Poohgyrr
November 10, 2003, 02:36 PM
Some folks like vanilla, and some like chocolate. I like my Hi Power or a good 4" Smith Revolver. Well, a G23 isn't too bad, and the 3" M65LS is pretty good too.

VG
November 10, 2003, 05:14 PM
well as long as you're standing or walking (and with good posture) you're fine ... in fact with that style of carry you could probably conceal an HK Mark23 SOCOM as long as you never sit down or bend over.

Was Zundfolge sagte.

Concealment shmealment.

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