Do thinner 1911 grips make it easier to use the mag button?


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G.A.Pster
December 1, 2009, 07:09 PM
I have smallish hands and when using a 1911 In order to drop a magazine one handed I have to rotate my grip to operate the magazine release button.

Iíve seen there are thinner grips available that claim to alleviate the problem, have any of you guys noticed that slimmer grips makes it easier to drop the mag?


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Jim K
December 1, 2009, 07:16 PM
Most folks have to rotate the hand that way, mainly because the muscles of the thumb are set up to push forward, not sideways. You can easily try the idea of thinner grips just by removing the left grip entirely, but I don't think you will find operating the mag catch much easier. You can also cut away the grip behind the catch or install a large head catch if the gun is not carried in a holster (some large catches can be activated by a holster, so that when the gun is put in the holster, the magazine in released).

Thinner grips are an option, but IMHO they make the recoil worse.

Jim

The Lone Haranguer
December 1, 2009, 07:48 PM
Grips can be relieved (cut away and smoothed) around the area of the mag release. A note on its location: it is placed so it is easy to reach with minimal manipulation, but not directly beneath your thumb while your hand is in a shooting grip. If it were, you could press the button inadvertently when the gun recoils.

9mmepiphany
December 1, 2009, 11:32 PM
if you shoot the 1911 long enough, the "1911 flip" will become 2nd nature

actually the 1911 flip is a two parter. one to release the mag and the other to flick the mag out of the well

railroader
December 2, 2009, 01:38 AM
You can also get slightly extended mag releases that are easier to push. Mark

Double Naught Spy
December 2, 2009, 08:48 AM
I don't like the "1911 flip" because it results in the gun not being pointed down range and often canted up and left, usually resulting in the muzzle pointing out of the range. Some people exacerbate the rotation and the gun is nearly 90 degrees left.

Thin grips allow me to reach the controls without a significant change in my grip. It can be done without rotation and upward tilting of the gun.

Thin grips also allow for a person with small hand (e.g., my wife) to ride the safety while shooting (which she could not do with regular grips) and makes it easier for her to reach the mag release.

It has been my experience that extended mag releases tend to result in inadvertant releasing of the mag on some carried guns.

Drail
December 2, 2009, 09:01 AM
Almost everyone has to shift their grip to reach a mag release that is not extended. (unless you're a bass player) You can either extend the button (can cause other problems), use your other hand to trip it, or have your thumb stretched. I wouldn't use a grip that changed the way you grip the gun just to make it easier to trip the mag release. Grip is more imporant.

doublebarrel
December 2, 2009, 09:03 AM
I don't like the "1911 flip" because it results in the gun not being pointed down range and often canted up and left, usually resulting in the muzzle pointing out of the range. Some people exacerbate the rotation and the gun is nearly 90 degrees left.

I was told by my trainer to rotate my body so the muzzle keep pointing down range, instead of rotating the gun. Of course, it's easier said than done...

Mad Magyar
December 2, 2009, 09:23 AM
Do thinner 1911 grips make it easier to use the mag button?
Yes, slightly...

AirForceShooter
December 2, 2009, 11:04 AM
Speaking as a lefty ....yes

AFS

Rinspeed
December 2, 2009, 01:26 PM
When I first got my Baer I wasn't sure about the slim grips, now I love them.

Eightball
December 2, 2009, 02:11 PM
I can reach it just fine using some Crimson Trace. Then again, I've kind of got long fingers.....to each their own.

G.A.Pster
December 23, 2009, 12:30 AM
I handled a Dan Wesson 1911 with VZ thin grips and I really liked the feel of it I could get a better grip on it and use the magazine button much easier.
It had an extended magazine button also, but I handled a DW that had normal grips and it was harder to reach the button.

Unfortunately everything Iíve seen so far is in the $65 and up price range, which Iím just not going to pay.:(

The Chinese need to start turning them out, so us poor folks can afford them.

railroader
December 23, 2009, 01:49 AM
Here's a slightly extended mag release. Mark

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=244884

Harvey
December 23, 2009, 06:39 AM
If you look around hard enough, you'll come up with a mag release that is elongated rearward. I wish I could instantly provide the link for you, but they are a bit hard to find. They'll move the button back, so to speak, and help you find the release without grip change. Nice for competition. Fast.

In any event, a button like this would solve you problem, OP, without going to slimmer grips. The grip should be sized to fit your paw, and the slim grips just feel a little harsh to me -- like holding a hockey stick. Some like them as a matter of CC since they ARE about a quarter inch thinner.

9mmepiphany
December 23, 2009, 02:39 PM
Unfortunately everything I’ve seen so far is in the $65 and up price range, which I’m just not going to pay.

The Chinese need to start turning them out, so us poor folks can afford them.

what, in your mind, would be a reasonable price?

i don't have a frame a reference as i'm looking at grips of Sigs thar are running >$130

Rinspeed
December 23, 2009, 02:59 PM
The Chinese need to start turning them out, so us poor folks can afford them.




No offense intended but that is one of the main reasons why the US economy is in the toilet.

G.A.Pster
December 26, 2009, 02:40 AM
IRT 9mmepiphany: if entire guns can be made and sold for $180 (hipoint, maverick etc) I think a reasonable price for a couple of thin panels that a machine can make would be $15-$25, I’d pay $35-$40 though.

IRT Rinspeed: I agree but if something is so expensive that no one even buys it then it doesn’t make a difference.

9mmepiphany
December 26, 2009, 04:12 AM
if entire guns can be made and sold for $180 (hipoint, maverick etc) I think a reasonable price for a couple of thin panels that a machine can make would be $15-$25, I’d pay $35-$40 though.

ah...well if that's the quality you're looking for, i have seen 1911 panels in that price range at gunshows and such...you might take a look at CDNN's catalogue

of course, these would be the standard pattern grips...when you want something out of the norm...like thinner grips...they do add a surcharge. there isn't enough of a market for specialty item to justify enough production to meet that price point.

if something is so expensive that no one even buys it then it doesn’t make a difference.

then i guess it's a good thing that VZ are selling all they can produce

bigmike45
December 26, 2009, 08:49 AM
Before you replace the thumb release with an extended one, you might head to some gunstores and see if any have 1911's with relief cut into the full size grips, like my Wilson grips do. I like to keep the release standard for carry so there is less chance of accidentally bumping it upon draw from the holster or re-holstering after the draw.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f43/mike_seale/WilsonPro001.jpg

JDGray
December 26, 2009, 09:31 AM
^^^^^^Those Davidson grips are awesome! But found the standard versian a bit thicker than a standard 1911 grip. I prefer thin grips, and it does help the reach a bit.

G.A.Pster
December 27, 2009, 01:58 AM
I’m not planning on an extended mag button (don’t want to drop the mag accidentally).

But yeah I’ve been looking around for a 1911 with relief cut grips I can handle.

If I did like it, it would just take a few licks of a round file on my normal grips, net cost $0 :D

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