[rhartwell]

I am getting somewhat tired of oversized pants so that I can use my supertuck holster. I was wondering what else I can do for a concealed outside the belt holster. I usually wear my shirt untucked.
Thanks,

[mljdeckard]

Here's what you will likely find. Most shirts, left untucked, don't really cover well enough to keep it concealed. If you lift your arms, the muzzle section will be exposed. Also, you will find yourself grabbing the shirt if it is flapping in the wind.

I do carry OWB occasionally, but it's usually when I am wearing a medium length coat that covers it easily. Also, in my state, concealment isn't required, it's not a big concern to me if it slips sometimes.

[9mmepiphany]

well i do live in a state that CCW means just that...flashing is definitely frowned upon

i carry OWB because i have lower back issues, depending on the size of the gun butt, as opposed to the barrel/slide lenght, i've CCW'd under a unbottoned denim workshirt, sweatshirt or long T-shirt.

my most discreet holsters are the Comp-Tac Settable Cant Paddle and an Alessi ACP. these are for my full sized Sig 220/226 and Beretta 92/96.

the workshirt has even covered a Blackhawk CQC Serpa paddle (i don't recommend this) and a number of Fobus paddle holsters for casual CCW

[mljdeckard]

I actually use the Serpa with my full-size 1911, I really like it.

[The Bushmaster]

Have a look at Yaqui Slides. Make sure you get a good one with at least one tension screw.

[MM60]

I only carry concealed OWB and I always use the Fobus paddle holsters. They cost $20 to $30 and are very easy to put on and take off. They also allow for a very fast draw since there are no retention straps, snaps, etc. The gun is just held in place by sideways pressure from the form-fitted plastic. The new "Evolution" models each have a tension screw - they adjust between making your draw nearly impossible to almost effortless.

[mountainpharm]

I just got a Bianchi 82 Carry-Lok for my Glock 36 and I've been very pleased with how close it holds the gun to my side -- almost as close as my IWB holster. I've found that it's quite concealable with an untucked t-shirt, even though it is OWB.

[mljdeckard]

The problem I had with a Fobus paddle holster= It comes on and off TOO easily, I would practice drawing and sometimes the holster comes off with the gun.

[MM60]

If your Fobus holster comes off with your gun, then you probably need to tighten your belt. You can also buy them in a belt version rather than a paddle version.

[mljdeckard]

I VERY much prefer the Serpa.

[psyopspec]

I VERY much prefer the Serpa.

Hands-down for OWB. I own a Fobus, but after all the time I've gotten in with the SERPA in recent months, I'll likely be giving away the injection-molded plastic when I get home.

[Crazy Carl]

Just ordered one of these (http://www.lobogunleather.com/model_1-sl_pancake_style_with_snap-loop_belt_attachment) for my DW CBOB. This'll be my first "real"/CCW holster, so not sure how it'll work out, but from what I've been able to gather, it makes the most sense to me.

[9mmepiphany]

that's a copy of the Alessi CQC/S

the angle it places the gun at is critical to the balance on the belt

[ArchAngelCD]

You didn't say what type of handgun you carry. If you are looking for a good holster that works and won't cost you a ton of cash take a look at the holsters made by Simply Rugged (http://simplyrugged.com/leather_goods/index.html). IMO they make a great product and they are great to deal with too...

[Santee]

Bushmaster's choice of the Yaqui Slides is definitly a good choice, as they fit close to the body, especially if you put it over a belt loop. I carried my Ruger P97DC for several years in one, had two tension screws, never complained.

But, I wear a tee shirt then a very long, open and loose outer shirt, usually a Levy. I have never had any problem carrying any type of auto-loader. At the present time I carry a Ruger P345 in an Uncle Mikes Sidekick. Very comfortable and light.

[David E]

the new Peerless Pancake from KyTac (www.kytac.NET) does an exceptional job of concealing even a fullsize gun.

[Guillermo]

I carry daily and I loathe inside the waistband holsters. I suspect that they were designed by inquisitors and if we used them to question prisoners the practice would be more effective than waterboarding.

With this in mind I almost always carry on a belt holster. My usual gun rotation, depending on my state of dress is a PM9, Colt Detective Special and an XD45 (although a 686 7 shot slips in there sometimes)

A high ride holster on a good belt under an untucked shirt does a good job for me. (the Biachi FLETCH is one that I use for the XD)

The main thing that makes this work is the belt. The gun will fall away from your body if you do not have a great belt. I use a reinforced 5:11 trainer belt and it literally changed my life. My comfort level increased dramatically.

[Sam1911]

I carry a number of guns OWB. I tend to buy "Large Tall" shirts so I have less risk of the tail riding up over, but here in PA it doesn't matter at all if the gun becomes exposed, so that's more of a neatness and discretion issue than a requirement.

I really like pancake type holsters for autos (like the Desantis Speed Scabbard) as their design not only pulls the gun in close, but the widely spread fore and aft belt loops through the outer layer of leather smooth the "bump" of the gun which means it prints less and slides over things I may brush against without hanging up.

I like a lot of the holsters from Rays (www.shado.com). They stock some version of most styles of holster, most in both a thumb-break version and a version without, and I think they're all $35. I'd say the quality is as good or better than DeSantis or Galco. Not up to Sparks or Alessi's standards, but quite a bit cheaper and in stock.
-Sam

[Nick5182]

This might not be what you're looking for, but I stopped carrying OWB because I would often print really badly. I changed to a shoulder holster and would never go back to anything else. Even with just a light over shirt I can completely conceal my Glock 22.

[dairycreek]

Whether you choose OWB or IWB carry the old axiom of "dress to the gun" still applies. My experience with OWB carry means that I always opt for high ride holsters, longer shirts/jackets, etc. Whatever it takes to bring about concealed carry with no printing is your responsibility.

I have found that lilght, plush, sleeveless vests are a tremendous asset to my concealed carry. Particularly in these colder, winter months.

http://media.redcatsusa.com/is/image/ksd/ma/1159_57941_ma_0002.jpg?wid=230&hei=331&qlt=95&op_sharpen=1

I will use the vest as an outer layer over a t-shirt and, in turn, layered under an outer jacket or coat. Thus when I remove the outer coat the lighter vest is still in place providing both bit of comfort and an excellent concealment garment. FWIW.

[Vern Humphrey]

Also, in my state, concealment isn't required, it's not a big concern to me if it slips sometimes.
Which is exactly why every state should legalize open carry.

[David E]

One tip about those fleece vests is, buy a TALL version. It typically adds 2" to the length. Just enough to matter when concealing a gun, but not so much that it looks like you're a 6 yr old wearing Dad's vest.

[Sam1911]

buy a TALL version

Absolutely agree. Those vests have an elastic lower hem which draws them in tight around your waist, and they generally are cut pretty short. More like a sweatshirt than a coat.

I have a similar vest that I really cannot ever wear as a cover garment. If it's zipped up, that elastic rides up on top of anything on my belt. Even if I pull it down, with any active motion it works its way back up.

If it's left open, the elastic draws the hemline back, instead of letting the vest drape, which tends to expose more of my belt line than I'd prefer.

A Tall one, used with an IWB holster, could probably work, but try it out before you put much cash into it. Make sure it will stay low.

-Sam

[weisse52]

Bushmaster's choice of the Yaqui Slides is definitly a good choice, as they fit close to the body, especially if you put it over a belt loop

I have carried using Yaqui slides with a number of handguns over the years. I agree they do a great job and are highly underrated.

buy a TALL version

I already have to buy talls just so the clothes fit....:neener:

[ar10]

I prefer an SOB holster, Galco is mine but there's probably others. Just leave one belt loop open so you can get it to the 5~4 o'clock position.

[Old Guy]

First thing, why do you want to carry a concealed pistol?

[WardenWolf]

It really depends on your shoulder width and what you're wearing. If you have broad shoulders, a jacket or shirt may hang down loosely enough to easily conceal a firearm. I own several jackets which could easily conceal even a full-size 1911 in a belt clip holster.

Of course, there's 2 ways of looking at CCW, depending on your particular goals and your local laws: one is to carry a concealed firearm at virtually all times, without anyone knowing you have it; complete concealment. The other is to simply give you that legal right, and also cover your butt legally if you happen to wear a jacket or something else that conceals your firearm while otherwise open carrying. Depending on your goals and needs, you may not even care if the firearm is visible under certain circumstances, so long as it's concealed the vast majority of the time.

So basically, you need to decide what your goals are: do you NEED 100% concealment or absolutely no printing, or is it okay if people can tell "something" is there when you move a certain way (with the right holster and the right jacket, a cellphone pouch or a large wallet in your pocket will print more than the holster). Or is it even okay if someone sees the bottom of the holster if you raise your arms over your head? What level of concealment do you need? That should be the deciding factor.

[Avenger29]

Duluth Trading makes excellent "Longtail" tshirts that are great for covering a gun, and they sell lots of other good clothing items that are valuable assets for the CCWer.

[daveit]

XD9sc and Glock 17...
When I don't use my IWB Crossbreed Supertuck, I use a Serpa and an untucked shirt (usually with a vest)

[Ben86]

Two words my friend: pan cake! Get a good pancake holster that holds the gun tightly against your body, and a loose fitting shirt (button up works the best) and you will be in business. No more fat man pants! I learned this a few months ago.

[weisse52]

Here is another option I use with my 1911's as well. Really holds tight to the body.

Galco Jak slide:
http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPT3.asp?ProductID=646&CatalogID=4

Like a IWB without the discomfort.

[BillH]

http://www.activeprogear.com/22-belt-slide.html

They aren't expensive and not really noticable as a holster, so can be worn anytime.