Are M-1 carbines Cali legal?


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natedog
November 9, 2003, 03:12 AM
They have a detachable magazine and a bayonet lug...

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Beetle Bailey
November 9, 2003, 04:15 AM
I've seen them for sale here in California at my gunshop, so I suppose so.

Archie
November 9, 2003, 04:48 AM
no pistol grip, like an M16. That is the center of all the evil in an evil long gun.


And don't talk about it too loud. Some state assembly twit will hear you and make them illegal too.

Sven
November 9, 2003, 04:48 AM
Yup, they are legal. 10 round mags are available on EBay occasionally.

El Rojo
November 9, 2003, 03:35 PM
I believe there is an exception for SB 23 based on it being a C&R gun. Otherwise, yes, a M1 Carbine with a bayonet lug would be illegal under SB 23. You could simply cut it off and it would be fine. However, like I said, check out SB23 and I think there is a provision that exempts old guns. I am at the school lab and don't have the time to do it right now.

Number 6
November 9, 2003, 06:20 PM
Actually I believe the bayonet lug is a federal thing. I cannot find any mention of a bayonet lug as an assault weapon characteristic on the CA DOJ website. The law states.

(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon B) A thumbhole stock. (C) A folding or telescoping stock. (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher. (E) A flash suppressor. (F) A forward pistol grip

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/genchar.htm

El Rojo
November 10, 2003, 11:38 AM
Holy crap Batman!!! I never noticed it left out the bayonet lug!!! Wow. How crazy is that. I am a little upset that my new rifle is a little less evil!

12276.1(c) "Assault weapon" does not include either of the following:
(1) Any antique firearm.
(3) "Antique firearm" means any firearm manufactured prior to
January 1, 1899.

An M1 Carbine with its bayonet lug is not an assault weapon by SB 23's standards. How great is that? Now, the new AW Ban does have the M1 Carbine on it. How interesting is that?

Combat-wombat
November 10, 2003, 10:49 PM
Cali does not include the bayonet lug as an "assault weapon" characteristic.

I was just going through their "Assault weapon" identification guide, which actually mentions at the bottom that the bayonet lugs are not considered eeeeevil by Kalifonistan.

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