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Grassman
December 7, 2009, 01:10 PM
I am planning to sell a 9MM from the classified ads. First time I've ever done this. What is the protocol? What should I be worried about? Should I ask for ID?

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ruger700
December 7, 2009, 01:14 PM
Did you complete a 4473 when you purchased the 9mm. If so, obtain a copy of the Drivers License, or record the information is a Bill of Sale.

Otherwise, just be sure the purchaser has a valid Texas driver's license.

Grassman
December 7, 2009, 01:17 PM
I won't be able to make a copy of his ID, should I just write down all of his info, and write up a bill of sale with his signature?

NavyLCDR
December 7, 2009, 01:18 PM
This is what I do. Ask for ID to show state residency and age (18 years old or older). Look for signs of a prohibited person - if the look OK/sound reasonable to me, that's all I do. If you don't like the way they look/talk, you have no obligation to sell to them.

Sign a two part bill of sale. Part 1 is theirs and will say that they purchased make/model/serial number of gun on date from me and that I have received $XXX. I sign that one and give to them as a receipt for their money.

They sign part two stating that they purchased make/model/serial number gun from me on date and that they have received described gun. I keep that one as a receipt for my gun.

That's it, for me. I don't believe in requiring a CPL (or CCW license, whatever in Texas) and I don't believe in copying or recording any of the ID information. If I wanted to do all that in a private sale, I would go to an FFL in the first place.

Ryder
December 7, 2009, 01:31 PM
I do receipts too. That way the new owner has proof of ownership and I have proof of sale.

I meet prospective buyers somewhere to conduct the transaction. Don't like strangers looking around in my house.

Grassman
December 7, 2009, 01:33 PM
I am typing up a bill of sale with a blank for his signature and DL#. The form will have his name, my name, the serial number and date. I guess that's about all I can do.

Grassman
December 7, 2009, 01:35 PM
I might even take a picture of his license plate with my camera phone. Can't be too careful.

medalguy
December 7, 2009, 01:41 PM
I agree with Navylt. All you need to do is show who it was sold to and the date just in case there's a problem involving the gun at a later date. A signature is a very good idea. You are not required to obtain, and I do not let people copy, my DL or CCW permit info. As long as you reasonably believe the buyer is entitled to purchase the firearm, you are OK. You are not a dealer and a 4473 and/or related information is not required. At any rate, a firearms purchaser is not required to have a DL or a CCW!

wgsigs
December 7, 2009, 04:37 PM
From what I've read on a Texas gun forum there are a lot of legitimate Texas gun owners who strongly don't want you writing down their DL#, much less photocopying or photographing their license. They feel just showing your DL to verify residence is all the seller needs. Just another point of view and a heads up in case your buyer turns out to be one who feels that way.

Grassman
December 7, 2009, 04:40 PM
I got no problem with that. But if he refuses to show a DL, then that might queer the deal for me. I just want a bill of sale with his signature.

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