Hornady V-max 223


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kestak
December 8, 2009, 08:54 AM
Greetings,

Anyone ever tested the Hornady V-max versus the Hornady softpoint?

I am curious which one would be the best for man stopping purpose. :what:

Thank you

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steve4102
December 8, 2009, 09:26 AM
The V-Max is a varmint bullet, to soft for big game including man sized game.

Historian
December 8, 2009, 01:21 PM
Either one would hurt like h---:)

Historian

rcmodel
December 8, 2009, 01:28 PM
Hornady TAP law enforcement ammo is loaded with V-Max bullets in the 40, 55, & 60 grain bullet weights.

My SHTF AR-15 mags are loaded with 55 grain V-Max handloads as we speak.

It is most excellent if a very deadly load without excess over-penetration is desired.

You can view ballistics gel results here.
http://www.hornadyle.com/products/detail.php?id=130&sID=73

rc

snuffy
December 8, 2009, 03:03 PM
I've been using the 60 gr. v-max bullet in my 20" bushy, 1-9 since I bought it 5 years ago. It's my go-to bullet both for accuracy and terminal performance.

It's nice to see the test results that Hornady put on their website! Now I know why those bullets did so well on those bowling pins I was shredding! :scrutiny: :uhoh: (200 yds, 20 pins had to be knocked over to score, 55 FMJ bullets were passing through, not my 60 v-max!)

45ACPUSER
December 8, 2009, 10:25 PM
I would suggest you look at a less frangible bullet, like the 70gr TSX, Speer no offers the TBBC as a compoent. Barnes has a TAC-X bullet in 62 or a 70gr which is an option.

kestak
December 9, 2009, 08:13 AM
Greetings,

The 55 grains Vmax has a total penetration of about 8"...But they penetrate soft armor (Do they mean up to level II or IIIA?)

But if rcmodel used those bullets.......:what:

Anyway, let's refine my question: Would the Hornady SP do the job? Or the Vmax would do a better job than the Hornady SP?

Thank you

rcmodel
December 9, 2009, 06:02 PM
Yes the SP will do the job.

I used to load a lot of them, but noted lead bullet tips getting banged up quite a bit in auto-loaders.

But like Historian said, either one would hurt like h---

I assume you are asking about HD ammo, and don't plan on waging war against military vehicles or level III body armor wearing troops at 300 yards?

You can say what you like about not enough penetration, but having a .223 V-Max or SP bomb go off in your chest cavity would put Attila the Hun flat on his azz I betcha.

rc

snuffy
December 9, 2009, 06:31 PM
I would suggest you look at a less frangible bullet, like the 70gr TSX, Speer no offers the TBBC as a component. Barnes has a TAC-X bullet in 62 or a 70gr which is an option.

Why? If in a self defense situation, you WANT the BG down and to stay down. The shock of a high speed 22 bullet completely dumping energy in your torso will put you right down, even ole attilla. A TSX would probably exit therefore wasting energy.

Snipers WANT a frangible bullet in case of a miss. It will self destruct, less chance of a ricochet. Then they want it to deliver maximum energy to the target so it's/they are out of commission instantly.

matrem
December 9, 2009, 06:57 PM
While I've not actually "tested" them. I'd opt for the V-Max , if only for the amount of lead that soft points leave in my ARs(feed ramps) after practicing with them.
There are at least two well respected ammo makers that load polymer tipped bullets in .223 for personal defense. Hornady was mentioned, Cor-Bon(Blitzkings) is another.

Offfhand
December 9, 2009, 07:26 PM
Anyone who asks a question like that doesn't need to know.

soloban
December 9, 2009, 10:06 PM
I loaded some up with 20.4 gr of IMR 4198 and the VMAX bullets killed every single piece of paper that I shot at. :D

kestak
December 10, 2009, 08:04 AM
Greetings,

Me too I noticed the lead on my ramp after the Appleseed. I shot about 700 rounds in two days, did a field cleaning after the first day but did not notice the lead on the ramp until another cleaning after Appleseed.

rcmodel: No, I do not plan to shoot on someone wearing level III. At least, as long as the government does not become a tyrranny. :what:\

About Offhand and his stupid comment: We live on a big land and the crime rate shot up like crazy around us. It was a quiet neighbourhood in a quiet county until last year, but things are getting crazy now. In the last 2 months, we got many home invasions in the neighbourhood (about 100 houses total) and 3 of those were with people inside the house in mid-morning with violence.:eek:

Thank you

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