Word of Warning to DIY 'smiths


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Fauropitotto
December 8, 2009, 03:19 PM
9mm malfunctions at Lakeland gun range, shoots three people (http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/9mm-malfunctions-at-lakeland-gun-range-shoots-three-people/1041591)

Right in my own backyard..

TAMPA — Michael Thourot had just pulled his hand away from the warm metal when it started spewing bullets.

Moments before, Sherri Thourot had watched her husband fire and reload the Jennings 9mm. Then he set it down for her to shoot next at the range.

That's when the handgun started firing on its own, she said, spinning around in circles, landing the Thourots and an Irish tourist in the hospital.

"Nothing like that has ever happened," said Sherri Thourot on Sunday evening from her room at Lakeland Regional Medical Center.

"We've been around guns all our lives."

But as soon as Michael Thourot took his hand off the gun, it started firing like it was possessed, his wife said.

"I saw that he'd been hit, but I couldn't tell how bad," Sherri Thourot said. "Then I realized I had been hit. My hand was bent forward and I couldn't move my arm."

A bullet tore through the back of her right arm and exited from her biceps. Her husband had been shot in the left hand. Another man, a 29-year-old tourist visiting a friend, was hit in the shoulder and throat as he stood behind a shooting stall next to the Thourots.

All three were taken to the Lakeland hospital, where Michael Thourot and the tourist, Gary Flynn, underwent surgery.

The Polk County Sheriff's Office said the gun may have been altered, leading to the malfunction. Detectives expect to know more when they take the gun apart and inspect it as they continue to investigate.

Sherri Thourot said her son, 29-year-old Jeremy, brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.

The couple cleaned the gun and made sure it was in good condition before taking it to the range, she said. They never expected to leave in an ambulance.


There's not enough information here to draw a conclusion about why this occurred, however take this as a heads up over what *can* happen if you decide to haphazardly maul your pistol with a dremel for that awesome 1lb trigger pull you think you can magically pull off.

Get proper tools, get proper knowledge or training before you decide to play around with home modifications.

Just sayin'

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jmorris
December 8, 2009, 03:47 PM
I have pistols with 1.5# triggers but I don't own a single Jennings.

daveinvegas
December 8, 2009, 03:56 PM
The Sheriff's office said the gun "may have been altered?" What does that mean and on what do they base a statement like that? There was no info such as the owner stated such and such to base a conclusion like that. A statement like that is only supposition and speculation and irresponsible.

At that point there was no evidence that the gun was "altered." And what does "altered" mean?

In my opinion, an arbitrary statement like that is an indication of bias and lack of knowledge on the part of LE, as well being irresponsible.

A part on the gun could simply be worn. Perhaps it's a poorly made gun.

As to the person who loaded the gun and set it down . . .

Again, in my opinion, that was stoopid.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=229948

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=1691

http://www.awrm.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000193

http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulletin/defensive-carry-guns/64582-jennings-9mm.html

I would bet the gun failed because it is a piece of sh, er, uh, garbage.

Geneseo1911
December 8, 2009, 04:43 PM
Perhaps it's a poorly made gun.

It was a Jennings. Pretty safe bet. In theory I'm against the SNS laws, as they (in theory) deprive poor people of cheap self defense, but sometimes I wonder if it's not a bad idea. Besides, if you can afford a Jennings, you can afford a Hi-Point.

Sherri Thourot said her son, 29-year-old Jeremy, brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.

On another note, I though this was illegal nowadays.

X-Rap
December 8, 2009, 04:50 PM
Mom might have just got sonny some time in Kansas.
Why would you risk that for a Jennings?? Somethings not right with the story, has anybody ever heard of a gun just going off laying there and going full auto?

Chuck Warner
December 10, 2009, 06:08 PM
.....what was sonny doing with a 9mm Jennings in Iraq? Inquiring minds want to know........

Jim K
December 10, 2009, 07:04 PM
I feel that both Mr. Fauropitotto and the Sheriff's office are drawing a conclusion without knowing enough to do so.

Jim

The Gunman
December 11, 2009, 12:43 AM
The story is from October 5, 2009, I guess you just found it?

<rant>
Anyway, first, I like the same use of wording that the liberals use with SUV's killing people, now it is "guns are killing people", I am sure some anti is jumping for joy that a gun finally came out and killed it's murderous owner.
</rant>

Let's think this through, how can a firearm just start shooting?

-chamber hot enough to "cook off" a round?
-mechanical failure that allows the weapon to continue "full auto"

I would think that, if it had been caused by modification, the problem would have shown when firing before.

But, like has been said, we do not have enough information to make a reasonable statement about the true cause. It sounds like an anti giddy about actually having a gun just lying around start killing people.

A very unfortunate event, perhaps they will exercise more care with firearms now.

mcdonl
December 11, 2009, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the warning. I stick with cosmetics.

EMC45
December 11, 2009, 12:53 PM
Jennings................

Arkansas Paul
December 11, 2009, 01:31 PM
^ nuff said

YaNi
December 11, 2009, 02:54 PM
Sherri Thourot said her son, 29-year-old Jeremy, brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.

On another note, I though this was illegal nowadays.

Could depend on the state. I know its legal in Ohio. You've never heard of a kid getting a .22 for Christmas?
I heard a commercial on a local radio station, "Give the gift of a Glock this Christmas."

It's the first and only firearms commerical I've ever heard.

raz-0
December 11, 2009, 03:12 PM
Quote:Sherri Thourot said her son, 29-year-old Jeremy, brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.

On another note, I though this was illegal nowadays.

Could depend on the state. I know its legal in Ohio. You've never heard of a kid getting a .22 for Christmas?
I heard a commercial on a local radio station, "Give the gift of a Glock this Christmas."

It's the first and only firearms commerical I've ever heard.

I think he is referring to the fact the article makes it sounds like the son gave them a war trophy from iraq. Which would be very illegal.

Myself, I find it curious they would effectively accuse someone of such a thing as it could be seen as libelous. Personally I chalk it up to the news not knowing squat but being perfectly happy to prattle on about stuff.

lpd843
December 22, 2009, 10:07 AM
Sorry guys, cant agree with the small bashing of police because they stated that the "gun may have been altered and would know more when diassembled" that statement was no different than what I was thinking as I was reading the story before it got to what the part where police "thought" of what caused the mishap. Anyways, never heard of that happening before, I have heard of an SKS going nuts but it was caused by redneck engineer trying for full auto! LOL

R.W.Dale
December 22, 2009, 02:37 PM
It was a &*^^$^& Jennings

I wouldn't have been surprised if this story had been about it exploding like a bomb


Sherri Thourot said her son, 29-year-old Jeremy, brought the 9mm back to the United States after one of his tours in Iraq with the Navy. He gave it to them this summer.

Either this story is total BS or someone is actually dumb enough to risk time in FEDERAL PRISON for a $40 POS handgun

I call shenanigans

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