Who Makes The Best 1911 Under $1000


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sigbear
December 9, 2009, 08:28 PM
Who makes the best "new" 1911 for under $1000?
Do you have to spend more than $1000 for a quality 1911?

Sigbear

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Weedy
December 9, 2009, 08:33 PM
I'm not a 1911 guy but I've heard a lot of good things about the Taurus version for about $600...

rswartsell
December 9, 2009, 08:34 PM
I've had good experience with Kimber Custom II that can be had for just a smidge under a grand. Have heard good things about RIA at half a grand but a bad experience with a Llama 1911 convinced me to go with the proven name even though more $. I'm happy I did.

rellascout
December 9, 2009, 08:35 PM
Dan wesson get one now!

f4t9r
December 9, 2009, 08:36 PM
Many nice 1911's for under 1000. Search it I have seen it a thousand times.

Shooter973
December 9, 2009, 08:36 PM
Look at the Springfield offerings, they have a lot to choose from and they make a great product!!!:)

walker944
December 9, 2009, 08:49 PM
If you want to test the waters of the world of the 1911, and not wanting to sink a lot of money; a no-frills, very good "entry level" 1911 is the Rock Island Armory version. You can usually pick one up for around $400-450 depending on availability.

Browns Fan
December 9, 2009, 08:57 PM
I've got a detonics 9-11-01 that I paid just under $1k for. My second choice is Dan Wesson.

banjoman2255
December 9, 2009, 09:03 PM
dan wesson rz 45 heritage. $925

rpf717
December 9, 2009, 09:05 PM
+1 for dan wesson

soloban
December 9, 2009, 09:10 PM
I love my Springfield Loaded. Paid about $850 last year.

MICHAEL T
December 9, 2009, 11:43 PM
Dan Wesson buy fast their going up end of year

Pappy109
December 10, 2009, 12:19 AM
Glock hands down. They don't rust, bust, collect dust, implode or explode.

I want to see a 1911 do this. Or any other gun for that matter!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj5Kcs4dzro&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygcfp40RTKs

And this one is hilarious. This moron could not even kill a Glock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeEnzVkglI

Water-Man
December 10, 2009, 12:22 AM
Springfield Loaded

SIGLBER
December 10, 2009, 01:24 AM
My best luck has been with S&W and Springfield Armory guns. Luck with Kimber was terrible.

NinjaFeint
December 10, 2009, 02:31 AM
I have been most impressed with Smith and Wesson. I realize the name is not as sexy as Kimber. I understand they don't have blown up pictures on their web site detailing every little feature like Taurus or Springfield. They do however shoot beautifully, consistently and accurately. They also make an external extractor work and flawlessly in my experience.

Oro
December 10, 2009, 02:48 AM
I think right now Colt is offering some of the best quality/value in new guns. If you want to save a buck, get a used Colt, 1991 or XSE, or older model, won't matter much. The new 2009 model, the Combat Elite re-issue, is a real winner in the under $1000 category at retail.

Smith and Wesson and Dan Wesson offer good products to consider. Springfield is pretty good but you have to live with foreign manufacture and some barrel construction worries on some models. Kimber makes great guns, but also has some quality control issues more than other makers. But part of that is because they are the largest volume producer at the moment. They also have more MIM parts than others on average, and Colt has the least if that matters to you.

Do you have to spend more than $1000 for a quality 1911?

No, careful shopping and $600 will land you a barely used, late model Colt or similar quality gun. $600 is probably about the "floor" right now for a high-quality, slightly used 1911 style gun.

Glock hands down. They don't rust, bust, collect dust, implode or explode.

Apparently this poster hasn't spent THAT much time around Glocks...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=490375

I have owned a Glock and enjoyed it. But one thing I insist upon in an autoloader is a frame made of forged or high-quality investment cast steel between my hand and a barrel failure. Too many guns fail this test; plastic doesn't cut it.

Averageman
December 10, 2009, 03:54 AM
Years ago I got a Colt 1991 on sale NIB for $399.00.
Did a little work on it and made it mine. It never fails to function and is a very comfortable, reliable weapon.
I carried 1911's for 21 years in the Army, a little of that time as an Armorer, you can't go wrong.
I will get a RIA when I get home and trick it out just enough to make it mine and then box it back up and hang on to it for my Son.

Old Dog
December 10, 2009, 04:01 AM
OK, Oro, tell me where in Washington state that you're finding Colts in decent shape for $600? 'Cause I'm a WAC member, haunt every PS area shop and all the ads, can't find 'em for that ...

Some would argue that with SA and Kimber, you get more features at every price point than you would with Colt, i.e., night sights, frontstrap checkering, ambi-safeties, etc.

Foreign manufacture seems only to matter in the 1911 world. Where a gun is made shouldn't dissuade anyone from a particular brand; Brazilian (IMBEL) and even Chinese steel (Norinco) is considered good quite good quality steel.

Many engineers would tell you that MIM parts can be fitted to more precise tolerances that forged steel parts, though 1911 purists insist that MIM breaks more easily (even though forged steel parts can break, too).

For me, my favorite collectibles are Colts, I like my Springers, and I carry a Kimber more often than not. Don't have a Dan Wesson, but several associates have been kind enough to let me fondle and shoot theirs, and I'm most favorably impressed. S&W 1911s? No experience with 'em, will admit I'm prejudiced against the external extractors ...

nwilliams
December 10, 2009, 04:10 AM
Personally I'm a big fan of Colt's but my second choice would be Springfield.
Do you have to spend more than $1000 for a quality 1911?
A decent 1911 can easily be purchased for under $1000 especially a decent used one.

Glock hands down. They don't rust, bust, collect dust, implode or explode.

I want to see a 1911 do this. Or any other gun for that matter!


If the OP was asking about Glock then he wouldn't have asked which is the best 1911 for under $1000:rolleyes:

There are plenty of Glock threads that may welcome your comments but they are unnecessary in this particular thread. I'm not disputing that Glocks are decent guns, but 1911's they are not.

Oro
December 10, 2009, 05:40 AM
OK, Oro, tell me where in Washington state that you're finding Colts in decent shape for $600? 'Cause I'm a WAC member, haunt every PS area shop and all the ads, can't find 'em for that ...

(Laughs), certainly not at a WAC show! Classifieds, the local papers, NWfirearms, Little Nickel, and on Gunbroker if you look hard enough/consistently enough. But certainly not at WAC shows. Those nowadays are mostly good for jawing with friends and buying tasty beef jerky. I found a pinned WWI 1911 magazine at a Puyallup show last winter for $10, so that will have to satisfy my sum total of "deals" for the year at a WAC show since maybe 2007.

I have seen quite a few Mk IV/80 and 1991/80 guns in excellent used condition on classifieds for $550 to $600 all over the country. It's just a matter of hunting the internet tubes and byways to find deals.

Major Kong
December 10, 2009, 06:06 AM
I've got a Colt, a Springfield, and a Dan Wesson (all under $1k). If I could only keep one of them it would be the Dan Wesson.

Perseverance
December 10, 2009, 09:06 AM
Dan wesson

Lawnguy
December 10, 2009, 09:12 AM
I've got a loaded Springfield 1911. Love it. Never had a problem with the hundreds of rounds fired.

robctwo
December 10, 2009, 10:02 AM
I have a SA loaded and a S&W 1911PD. Both under $1,000. The S&W had the better trigger out of the box. Both reliable and accurate. I think Dan Wesson is right there as well, and would buy one if wanted another 1911 in that price range.

Bare bones entry level I'd buy Rock Island.

More 1911s coming out in 9mm, and I bought a nice one last year. It's a thought if ammo prices are an issue for you.

I own a Glock or 2, didn't think the OP was looking for comparisons between the two platforms.

RobMoore
December 10, 2009, 10:09 AM
RIA Tactical, if you want a beavertail safety and dovetail sights. It'll cost you half of that $1000 budget, then you can afford ammo, holster, ect.

Thaddeus Jones
December 10, 2009, 10:16 AM
Springfield loaded. Best bang for the buck < $1000 in a 1911.

The offerings from Rock River Arms, are very nice and a good value as well.

I hear very good things about Dan Wesson too. I just don't own one yet. TJ

SSN Vet
December 10, 2009, 04:14 PM
not one vote for Kimber??

that's telling...

rswartsell
December 10, 2009, 04:24 PM
You missed mine, 1 vote for Kimber custom II. So close to a grand though maybe price is an excluder.

EddieNFL
December 10, 2009, 04:25 PM
The offerings from Rock River Arms, are very nice and a good value as well.

Unfortunately, they're no longer accepting orders. Website says they have "temporarily suspended" accepting orders. Hopefully, they'll be back. Wanted one for a while, but waited too long.

not one vote for Kimber??

Over the past eight or so years, Kimber has worked very hard to destroy the (good) rep they had established. Sad, because they turn out some good looking models.

atomd
December 10, 2009, 08:05 PM
dan wesson rz 45 heritage. $925

+1. Easy.

SalchaketJoe
December 10, 2009, 08:55 PM
If I were wanting a full size 1911, I think I would get an STI Spartan.

the hudge
December 10, 2009, 10:31 PM
STI Spartan. No MIM and super accurate and all for about $650.00.

snakeman
December 10, 2009, 10:44 PM
Taurus, citadel, rock island, para. Then of course the real deal. Springfield Armory. I want a springfield. So much so that it drives my poor self nuts.

Willy G.
December 10, 2009, 11:29 PM
I just bought a Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II for $949

matai
December 11, 2009, 01:24 AM
I wish Dan Wesson had a black 1911 under $1000

usp222
December 11, 2009, 08:26 PM
Dan Wesson CBOB This gun is tighter and just as acurate as my ed brown kobra carry and I bought it for $899 shipped NIB plus $25 ffl fee so all together $924 and it has no MIM parts Except for the thumb safety which can easilly be swapped out. Look it up and check the reviews they do NOT lie mine is flawless but please make sure you check the dates on the reviews because this is 2009/2010 they are MINT.. I swear by them.. I do own a nighthawk T3, ed brown kobra carry, wilson professional and my CBOB just to name a few and i cant say one is completly better than the other.. To me they are on the same page. There will be some people who will disagree because they are about to buy a nighthawk or wilson for $2000 more than a Dan Wesson CBOB and feel like it cant be or they cant admit to themself that there is a gun that is just as good as theres that cost that much less but there is. Dont get me wrong i dont regret buying my Nighthawk or my professional but i am equally happy with my CBOB and that is the reason im replying to this thread to spread the wealth of this beautiful pistol for under $1000 its a great gun. and from what i hear they have excellent customer service but i have never had to find out..
I hope none of you Nighthawk, ed brown or wilson fans get upset at this post this is my oppinion from my own personal experience and there is nothing wrong with any of them they are some of the finest 1911's out there but people are asking for the best one under $1000 so im letting people know.


FORGET MIMBERS GET CUSTOM..

Damon555
December 11, 2009, 08:45 PM
I vote for Kimber....but my vote doesn't really matter.....I don't have anything to compare it to.

Mine is pretty nice

usp222
December 11, 2009, 09:14 PM
Dont get me wrong im not saying that kimbers are bad guns because then i would be lying, but when it comes down to the best 1911's they dont include machanical MIM parts. (Mold Injected Metal) something along those lines. We like solid Barstock parts

Damon555
December 12, 2009, 01:36 PM
Dont get me wrong im not saying that kimbers are bad guns because then i would be lying, but when it comes down to the best 1911's they dont include machanical MIM parts. (Mold Injected Metal) something along those lines. We like solid Barstock parts
I understand your concern about MIM......but I believe the actual failure rate in quality name brand fire arms is actually quite low.....The ones who have had or witnessed these failures are usually the loudest detractors against any particular brand.

I can't say that I have never had a MIM failure now.....Last week my 3 screw single six (which has the transfer bar update) broke.....The transfer bar itself split in half at the hole at the bottom of the part.......The gun is truly top quality....but you can tell that one piece, that was added later, is not up to par....If all the updated transfer bars are like the one that broke in my single six the quality very poor.

weisse52
December 12, 2009, 01:57 PM
I am of course going to suggest COLT!

If you are looking at $1000.00 you have many quality options. STI, Dan Wesson or also great choices, after you buy that first Colt..

dogspit
December 12, 2009, 03:52 PM
Star Super Modelo A 9mm Largo Pistol $375.00 including 350 rounds of ammo

Magnumite
December 12, 2009, 06:44 PM
+1 on STI Spartan. Best bangie for the buckie in 1911 under $1K.

SuperNaut
December 12, 2009, 06:47 PM
Spartan

97guns
December 12, 2009, 09:23 PM
another vote for Dan, picked up this pm7 last summer for $833 and its really tough to find one under a grand now. theyre really nice pieces.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m312/hd0642/HPIM0200.jpg

usp222
December 12, 2009, 09:42 PM
Im not going to say i dont own any guns with MIM parts because I do and im not actually totally opposed to owning them its just i have had to many of the parts break luckily for me Springfield Armory has a very very good customer service department also another great gun and they actually really care about the customers but on the other hand i havent had one part break on any of my customs or my DW and Ive had some of them for quite some time with lots of range time on them. Alot of the guns that were mentioned on this sight are very good guns but Sig asked what we thought were the best for under $1000 . I had a Kimber pro carry II also a gun that cost almost a $1000 and i droped it durring a cleaning session and broke the Mainspring housing come to find out it was Plasitc!!! It wasnt a far drop and it was on tile floor so i dont think it would stand a chance durring a suprise attack from a bad guy that would turn into a scuffle if the mainspring housing breaks you might as well just throw it at him.. Sold it But if you do deside get a kimber get a new MSH in metal that was the only problem i had with that particular gun..

Jim K
December 12, 2009, 09:50 PM
If you are lucky, you might just find a Norinco for 1/3 or 1/2 of $1000. Very durable and all forged parts that interchange with Colt and GI parts.

Jim

PRE 64 JOE
December 12, 2009, 09:54 PM
COLT

Richard
December 12, 2009, 10:32 PM
My guess is I would opt for a Dan Wesson (DW) 1911. Why? The fit and finish are equal to the best is and therefore you are getting a very good pistol at a bargain price. I have two Commander sized DW pistols a 10mm and a 45acp Bobtail. I love 1911s and these are great ones.

CZ223
December 12, 2009, 11:37 PM
If I had a $1000 to spend on a new 1911 it would almost certainly be a Dan Wesson.

Another gun that has recently gotten my attention is the S&W lightweight compact for about $900.

The Taurus for right around $600 has a lot going for it a bargain price. I have over 2800 rounds through my first one without a single failure that wasn't attributable to my reloads (3). I just picked up a very lightly used second one, got it today.:D

If I can't get that Smith my next gun will most like be the Rock island compact tactical for under $500.

BlayGlock
December 12, 2009, 11:52 PM
I vote not Kimber.

Get the STI Spartan.

Pappy109
December 13, 2009, 12:01 AM
There is an old saying.."It rides like a Cadillac" That is just not true! Only a Cadillac can ride like a Cadillac. In the 1911 world it is Colt. "Oh it shoots like a Colt and Colt parts will fit it".. Horse Feathers!

Only a Colt shoots like a Colt. And Colt Parts will always fit better in a Colt.

My opinion is there is no better 1911A1 than a Colt Series 70 and Glock is the best designed handgun of all so far.

Pappy

Full Metal Jacket
December 13, 2009, 12:10 AM
springfield armory's LW operators are about $900. these are the most accurate 1911's i've ever fired. my champion operator never jams either. it's actually hard not to keep shooting through the same hole with this thing:

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/Pic373.jpg

BushyGuy
December 13, 2009, 12:22 AM
Para USA GI45 is an excellent gun for 700.00 , aint no .45 better then that for under 1 grand.

Full Metal Jacket
December 13, 2009, 12:32 AM
Para USA GI45 is an excellent gun for 700.00 , aint no .45 better then that for under 1 grand.


yep, i have the para gi expert too. paid $550 for it, and there is nothing that can touch it at that price with the features and fit it comes with.

(the msrp is only $600, never seen it more than $550, and actually most places it's $500--$700 is a rip)


http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/Pic270.jpg


and here's 50 rounds at 15 yards, two hand hold:
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/champop1911/securedownload-1.jpg

TXHORNS
December 13, 2009, 12:41 AM
Touchy question. Of my Kimber, Springfields, Colts and STI's, I vote STI. My next 1911 will be a Dan Wesson in 10mm though - if I can ever find one local.

RustyHammer
December 13, 2009, 12:56 AM
Battle tested ... Colt!

LeonCarr
December 13, 2009, 01:08 AM
I think you can get the STI Trojan for arouund 1000 if you look around.

LancerMW
December 13, 2009, 01:31 AM
STI Spartan, for the price, none can compete

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