1911 safety question????\


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CombatArmsUSAF
December 12, 2009, 11:21 AM
I've been thinking about buying a 1911 and I have a quick question for all of you 1911 aficionados.

I really like the Springer 1911-A1 Loaded series in Stainless Steel. The one thing I don't like about this particular series is the fact that they come equipped with Ambidextrous thumb safeties.

Is it possible to convert a ambi 1911 to a single side safety??

Or are there similar quality pistols that meet this criteria at a similar price point?

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Walkalong
December 12, 2009, 11:23 AM
It is quite easy. There are many choices. You will have to fit the new one most likely, or at least know how to check the replacement. You could get lucky and need no fitting. Real lucky.

proud2deviate
December 12, 2009, 11:23 AM
Yes, it is possible. You would need a new safety, and possibly a hammer pin and a sear pin. After that, you just need to fit the new safety.

Walkalong
December 12, 2009, 11:27 AM
The only reason you would need a new pin is if the SA style pin is used to hold the off side safety. I do not believe it is.

Article on 1911 (http://www.realguns.com/archives/150.htm) This shows the relationship of the parts and describes the process a bit.

Brazos Custom - article on fitting a safety (http://www.brazoscustom.com/magart/0601.htm) It is for an ambi, but the way to fit it to the sear etc is what is important, and is the same.

Pappy109
December 12, 2009, 11:29 AM
I've been thinking about buying a 1911 and I have a quick question for all of you 1911 aficionados.

I really like the Springer 1911-A1 Loaded series in Stainless Steel. The one thing I don't like about this particular series is the fact that they come equipped with Ambidextrous thumb safeties.

Is it possible to convert a ambi 1911 to a single side safety??

Or are there similar quality pistols that meet this criteria at a similar price point?
Wilson Combat should have the parts you are desiring to convert to a standard 1911 type safety. Try here.

www.brownells.com

www.midwayusa.com

Both are very good sources for 1911 after market parts.

Regards,

Pappy

markallen
December 12, 2009, 03:36 PM
I have replaced the ambi safety on my Charles Daly. Wilson Combat has a few choices. I opted for Wilson's Concealed Carry thumb safety. And as posted above you can get from Brownells, or direct from Wilson's web site. I received mine in two days.
It will need to fitted, and if you are handy with files, and fitting parts, you can do it yourself.
If you decide to do it yourself, see the website that was posted above, and go SLOW. You may want to order two safeties in case you screw one up, and if you don't you might be able to send the other one back for a refund.
I had to replace the sear pin on mine, since the CD uses a longer sear pin with a groove in it to retain the safety on the right side, and I didn't want to cut the pin down. I will probably replace the hammer pin too. It doesn't need to be replaced, but it does look a little odd, that both the thumb safety pin, and the sear pin extend through the frame, and are rounded, were as the hammer pin is flush with the frame.

Quack
December 12, 2009, 05:28 PM
I prefer the Ed Brown safety.
here's a pic that will help you install it along with the Brazo's instructions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/hautlipz/1911_cutaway_thumb_safety_blocking_.jpg

Full Metal Jacket
December 12, 2009, 05:36 PM
i've seen pics of Quack's emp where he removed the extra thumb safety. i would like to do this as well on my springer champion operator, but not sure if i want to attempt it myself. i've never worked on my 1911's and don't want to mess something as important as a safety lol


but to answer the OP's question, yes you can remove it, or have a gunsmith do it for you.

Quack
December 12, 2009, 05:40 PM
the key to it is file a little at a time (you can always take off more, but not add metal), evenly, and test fit often.
after you are done, perform the safety checks

Here's my EMP with an Ed Brown safety
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_0456.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/Quackzilla/Guns/DSC_0458.jpg

Walkalong
December 12, 2009, 05:43 PM
I fit this modded by me Wilson safety to my Kimber (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=54227&d=1172878665) which had an Ambi Safety on it. It is easy to do. Go carefully and slowly and you can have a better fit than many as they come from the factory. If you get an Ed Brown, you may have to fit it to the frame as well. You won't with the Wilson or Chip McCormick safeties.

Quack
December 12, 2009, 05:46 PM
the Brown fit w/o having to fit it to the frame.

Pappy109
December 12, 2009, 05:59 PM
Many aftermarket parts are usually MIM molded or cut to larger that original tolerances to accommodate frame wear. As a gunsmith, I would not recommend taking a file to a 1911 after market 1911 part especially a MIM, Metal Injected Molded. The way I fit parts is with stones and 3 M wet and dry sand paper. 400 grit to 1000 grit and patience is the best and only method I have found.

Walkalong
December 12, 2009, 08:17 PM
OK. The two I have done had to be fit to the frame.

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