Another M4, AR wannabe, 22 autoloader.


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Uncle Mike
December 13, 2009, 12:26 PM
what do you guys...and gals think.
We ordered some...no haveum yet.

Just another AR wannabe.....? Have not dissected one yet, but they look to be jury rigged together. Dunno.:scrutiny:


http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/rimfire_rifles/model_597/model_597_vtr.asp

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Geneseo1911
December 13, 2009, 12:31 PM
Wow, it's ACTUALLY uglier & more stupid looking than Ruger's tackycool 10/22. Mall Ninjas everywhere are going to have a hard time deciding between these and the Archangel kit. It's the .22 yo mama warned you about!

W.E.G.
December 13, 2009, 12:34 PM
10 round proprietary magazine = FAIL.

I quit reading about it as soon as I saw that.
I do NOT understand why major manufacturers insist on painting themselves into a corner with these interchanges-with-nothing products that only mimic guns that have interchangeable parts over a wide spectrum.

mcdonl
December 13, 2009, 12:59 PM
I guess I have not seen one that I like as much as a Ruger 10/22 with a Tapco T6 stock.... it looks good and shoots good...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mcdonl/GUNS/DSCF1687.jpg

And when I just want to go squirrel hunting I put it back to this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mcdonl/GUNS/DSCF1668.jpg

Best of both worlds....

Uncle Mike
December 13, 2009, 05:43 PM
...and it's a 597 under all that mall camouflage!

Ohio Gun Guy
December 13, 2009, 05:49 PM
W.E.G. - your 100% correct....which is funny because interchangeability has been the advantage to the AR platform....

So they make a rifle that looks somewhat like one:barf:, but doesnt utilize the main advantage....interchangeable parts!:rolleyes: Ironic isn't it

sheepdog
December 13, 2009, 05:56 PM
...If half of the bad reports on the 597 that I've read are true, I wouldn't buy one...the last quality Remington I owned was the 552 Speedmaster...they've been spotty since then...
...I handled the Walther-made Colt AR15 .22LR Friday...I liked it a lot, but $600 for a gun that just does the same thing my 10/22 with a coupla 30-round clips can do...didn't make sense to me...

happygeek
December 13, 2009, 06:37 PM
Yeah, I'm happy enough with my Rock River AR in 22LR. It's not a bad M4orgery, weight is about right, barrel is 1.5 inches longer of course, still has the bayonet lug, flash suppressor, pistol grip, and retractable buttstock :evil:

Mag release, safety switch, and trigger are the same, there's no bolt hold open though due to the 22LR bolt. Other than the bolt release and complete lack of recoil, feels like a regular AR though. I love it to death, I can actually afford to blow through hundreds of rounds with it :D

I do have to clean it every time I shoot it and oil it just right to keep malfunctions under 1 in 50 to 60 rounds. A lot of that probably has to due with the cheap bulk ammo I bought 5,000 rounds of along with the rifle though. Once I finish off the last 3,000 rounds of that (one big box with ten 500 round bricks inside), I'll shop around for some ammo the rifle likes better.

nwilliams
December 13, 2009, 06:48 PM
wow, that thing is just:barf:

Uncle Mike
December 13, 2009, 06:51 PM
.I handled the Walther-made Colt AR15 .22LR

If it is the Colt 22 AR your talking about, that turd is NOT made by Walther...it is manufactured by Umarex and they are truly turds of the first order!

Woe to those who purchase such devils!

Big Russ
December 13, 2009, 07:02 PM
I keep clicking on the link just to make myself laugh...it's so damned ugly!

WhoKnowsWho
December 13, 2009, 07:14 PM
Wow, I think I would pass to just from the initial pictures.

MountainBear
December 13, 2009, 07:27 PM
Doesn't look any worse than Ruger's AR wannabe 10/22. Or the GSG-5, or the new Umarex crap. I guess if tacticool looking .22's float your rabbit, you'll like most of them. I guess I'll just stick with my classic looking CZ-452 and original 10/22...

giggitygiggity
December 13, 2009, 11:25 PM
I applaud companies for making cool-looking, although often ugly .22's. However, I think that if someone want's an AR, they should get an AR, not a .22LR that looks like one. If you want a .22, get a classic .22.

Avenger29
December 13, 2009, 11:46 PM
I applaud companies for making cool-looking, although often ugly .22's. However, I think that if someone want's an AR, they should get an AR, not a .22LR that looks like one. If you want a .22, get a classic .22.

I've got a real deal AR, but I also like a .22 caliber AR, for weapons handling familiarity and fun, especially without having to pay .223 prices for every shot.

I also have a CZ 452 to satisfy my like for a bolt action .22...

trigga
December 14, 2009, 12:00 AM
i recall seeing that exact gun at a shop and kinda pricy for a wannabe. ($350-$400+) you can get it cheaper with more options by going with the ruger 10/22 fitted with the archangel body. or just the the colt uremax m4 for almost the exact replica traning platform. i didn't even notice the new colt m4 was a .22 because it is so closely identical to the ar15/m4 until i looked at the .22lr engravement on the magwell. kinda pricy buy that's as close as you're gonna get to a replica. (i have an ar15 with a .22lr kit but i still want the colt m4 anyways)

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