30-06 VS .308 Better??


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Jvpwtf69
December 15, 2009, 12:15 AM
Which you think is better??

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Ridgerunner665
December 15, 2009, 12:25 AM
416 Barrett

earplug
December 15, 2009, 12:27 AM
.308 is better for a rebarrel to 7MM/08.

War Squirrel
December 15, 2009, 12:29 AM
It all boils down to opinion. I like the .30-06, but I've no experience with .308, so I couldn't say.

Bobarino
December 15, 2009, 12:34 AM
not a heckuva lot of difference. one goes a little faster than the other or can spit a heavier bullet at the same speed, and one has a longer action than the other. both are easy to reload and have good factory ammo available too. both are chambered in the same lines of hunting rifles and even some semi-autos.

i think it more boils down to what do you want to do with it and do you want a long action or short action?

i surely wouldn't turn up my nose at either, though i did just buy a .308 last weekend.

Bobby

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December 15, 2009, 12:44 AM
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mnrivrat
December 15, 2009, 12:46 AM
I've ran a lot of 30-06 through rifles in my time and have nothing but good to say about the cartridge and its performance.

For the most part I guess one would be served well with either, but I still give the 06 as a winner by a nose.

eldon519
December 15, 2009, 01:22 AM
For about 90% of applications, you can't tell a real difference. I like .308 myself though, almost purely for sentimental ideals. For a modern bottleneck, it just strikes me as such a modest, well-proportioned, and well-behaved round. I know it's silly, but I find it very pleasing to the eye.

Ridgerunner665
December 15, 2009, 01:39 AM
strikes me as such a modest, well-proportioned, and well-behaved round. I know it's silly, but I find it very pleasing to the eye

Same here...

To answer the OP's question...the 30-06 can shoot heavier bullets faster than the 308...on game performance is identical.

Short, handy rifles are the 308's advantages...a 308 with a 20" barrel is still a 308, a 30-06 with a 20" barrel is also a 308 (ballistics), with much more flash and bang.

bad_aim_billy
December 15, 2009, 01:42 AM
Both are worthless compared to the mighty .300 RUM, which is what all knowledgeable hunters use here out west for elk at up to 800 yards.

Ridgerunner665
December 15, 2009, 01:46 AM
What??? That puny lil 300 RUM ain't got enough oomph...the 416 Barret, now there is a round to reach out there. Any elk within 1.5 miles is as good as on the stove...:neener:

LaserSpot
December 15, 2009, 01:57 AM
I have a 30-06, but the .308 is more versatile. The 30-06 is mostly found in boring, excessively accurate bolt-action rifles like I have. If it was a .308, I could use the same ammo to feed anything from an old Savage 99 lever action, to an AR-10, both of which I would like to have some day.

cauberallies
December 15, 2009, 03:05 AM
It really comes down to preference, but if you plan on doing a lot of shooting, you can find .308 considerably cheaper than '06. Plus, there are SO many more rifles of all shapes, sizes, and actions in .308. If you want a semi-auto, you're basically limited to a Garand, or a few modern hunting/sporting rifles, save for a few belt-fed machine guns and the BAR with the '06, while the .308 has everything from ARs, to the M1A/M14, FN FAL, CETME, Saiga .308 and other AK platform variants, FNAR, Kel-Tec RFB, and the list goes on and on.

If you handload, the .30-06 has more case capacity, which expands the versatility beyond that of the .308, but for all practical purposes, there isn't THAT much of a difference out to several hundred yards.

This is coming from someone with no bias, who has never owned a gun in either caliber, but has had plenty of experience with both calibers. I love the '06 as much as the next guy, but the .308 can do most of what the '06 can do up to a certain point, and once you pass that threshold, you're already pushing the ability of the '06 near its limits, and if you reach that point on a regular basis, you should probably be using a more powerful round anyway.

Hope this helps!

evan price
December 15, 2009, 03:34 AM
The 06 will get you 100 yards further than a 308 will. It will also push heavier bullets out there than a 308 reliably.

That said, if a 308 won't get the job done, a 30-06 isn't much better, so you need a 300 WM or 300 RUM.

In terms of most "real world" shooting, a 308 is just fine especially under 600 yards.

Deanimator
December 15, 2009, 03:58 AM
Which you think is better??
Better for WHAT?

As a general purpose machinegun cartridge? .308.

As a 1,000 yard match rifle cartridge with heavy bullets? .30-06. It throws a 200gr. Sierra Matchking faster with lower chamber pressures. Use the .30-06 Improved and you do even better.

Deanimator
December 15, 2009, 04:00 AM
If you handload, the .30-06 has more case capacity, which expands the versatility beyond that of the .308, but for all practical purposes, there isn't THAT much of a difference out to several hundred yards.
But there's a LOT of difference at 600 and 1,000 yards, and I NEVER shoot rifle closer than 600 yards.

Oro
December 15, 2009, 05:20 AM
There's a ton of equivocation here, but the hands-down fact is that head-to-head, the .30-06 as pure cartridge, independent of platform, is capable of more peformance than a .308. It can also be, in bolt actions, down-loaded by the hand loader with light bullets and charges and used for small game. .308 autoloaders aren't easily capable of this.

I'll take a .30-06 any day unless someone starts putting limits on it like "only in an autoloader" or "only with factory ammo." But the OP didn't state those conditions.

762 shooter
December 15, 2009, 06:55 AM
I would take a 30-06 case cut it down to a 308 length, then neck the shorter case to .308. Then find some 308 bullets instead of 30-06 bullets. and there you have it. 7.62 bullets might work also.:cool:


The difference between the two rounds is 100 fps.

Sav .250
December 15, 2009, 07:12 AM
That`s easy..................the 30-06. I`ve had 308`s. (past tense)

madcratebuilder
December 15, 2009, 07:19 AM
That's easy. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

atlanticfire
December 15, 2009, 07:21 AM
BOTH are good, BOTH work, I have them and reload them. .308 is just my favorate, no real reason why. Try doing a search there are tons of threads on this.

USSR
December 15, 2009, 07:22 AM
Welcome to the forum. Please use the search feature.

+1. Probably the only question asked more often pertains to barrel break-in.:)

Don

skoro
December 15, 2009, 08:53 AM
Not much difference for most practical purposes. The short action on the 308 is a good feature. The 30-06 is better with the heavier bullets.

Outside of those factors, take your pick.

mete
December 15, 2009, 09:03 AM
This question was all hashed out 50 years ago ! Are you new shooters ?

TexasRifleman
December 15, 2009, 09:12 AM
Not much difference for most practical purposes.

Lock the thread right there :) Perfect answer.

kanook
December 15, 2009, 09:19 AM
I shot a deer at about 75yds with a 06 and it died. Same thing happened when I used a 308.

The 308 didn't recoil as hard as the 06 and the 308 was lighter to carry in and out.

SaxonPig
December 15, 2009, 09:28 AM
Performance is virtually identical. You choose the 308 so you can have a more compact rifle. Making a full-length action in 308 is crazy.

RONSERESURPLUS
December 15, 2009, 09:36 AM
Hello all, RON L here

I've had BOTH Calibers, My Dad was More Inclined to 3006, I gravitated towqards 308, in most game Situations, if the correct bullet weight, and powder loads we could use BOTH t do what we needed to do! I have no real Preference! Most game in our area of N America EITHER will do the JOB!


RON

Faret
December 15, 2009, 09:39 AM
Look at the .408 Cheytac it will make you cry.

Jvpwtf69
December 15, 2009, 12:09 PM
Yupp....i forget about the search feature... yeah because imma buy a bolt action rifle in either .308 or 30-06.....well which ever one i can grab first........its eeither a savage rifle or a tikka because i have a faily low budget until i buy an A-10 from armalite.....I think i might go with a 30-06 because the a 10 is .308 so thats probly what i am gunna do

Art Eatman
December 15, 2009, 12:17 PM
That was more easily settled than the usual 308/06 thread. :D

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