Savage Turnbolts with D.B.M.s


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Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 16, 2009, 05:15 PM
Detachable Box Magazines.

These wouldn't perchance of a "half-in" notch/position, like the Steyr, would they?

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Uncle Mike
December 16, 2009, 05:27 PM
These wouldn't perchance of a "half-in" notch/position, like the Steyr, would they?

What???

The Savage utilizes a post that catches a tang on the rear of the magazine and a rotating latch catches a tang on the front of the magazine.

Do you want pictures, I think i have some of my mags I sent to get coated, still on my camera...wherever that is. lol hehehehe

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 16, 2009, 06:41 PM
What I mean is, some of the Steyr DM guns have two separate positions that the mags click into, for lack of a better description. The 2nd one is all the way in (normal). The fist click is partially protruding, whereby you can cycle the action / look into the chamber without picking up a new round on the way home, leaving it unloaded. Does Savage have this? I'd guess no.

Uncle Mike
December 16, 2009, 09:56 PM
Naw...the Savage just snaps in with one click. You have to 'finger' down the rounds when closing the bolt on a loaded and 'up and locked' magazine

lopezni
December 17, 2009, 01:09 AM
Well do you own a Steyr? If so, why bother looking at a Savage?

Sam1911
December 17, 2009, 07:45 AM
Sort of a "poor man's" mgazine disconnect? Like the Krag or the Springfield, where you can "turn off" the magazine and load and eject single rounds while holding the full magazine in reserve.

I'm actually really surprised that the Steyr gives you the option. It's a hold-over from the days when soldiers tried to pick each other off accross No Man's Land one round at a time, but when the charge came they could switch the mag "on" and make 5 rapid shots before reloading. I've always wondered if that added complexity was worth the effort.

Sounds like the Steyr will hold the mag down out of the way so that a round doesn't get stripped out when you cycle the bolt, but the full mag is still there in the rifle, acting like a solid-bottom receiver sort of, so you can drop a round into the action and push-feed it.

On a hunting or sniper's rifle I don't see much need. If you want to single-load, you just have to eject the empty and then press a fresh round down into the mag before you close the bolt. Works the same way with 3% more effort. Wonder why Steyr feels it is a worthwhile feature?

-Sam

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 17, 2009, 10:35 AM
Sam, now I'm also wondering why *I* thought it might be a worthwhile feature. :)

Uncle Mike
December 17, 2009, 11:20 AM
Well do you own a Steyr? If so, why bother looking at a Savage?

Get help!

Sam1911
December 17, 2009, 11:38 AM
Sam, now I'm also wondering why *I* thought it might be a worthwhile feature.

Well, you know, it is kind of cool, and might be kind of convienient, if you get used to using it that way. But, I'm not sure I'd ever really use it, myself, and I'm curous for whom, or for what purpose, Steyr thought it would be worth adding that complexity to their manufacturing process and to the gun itself.

In the trench warfare days, when bolt actions were the only real option for the main line infantry, it made a lot of sense. Single load for your pot shots at the enemy and hold the mag full in reserve for fast(er) action when the enemy is coming over the berms. But no one has used a bolt-action rifle that way in half a century, at least.

I think I still think it's cool. But I don't think I'd pay extra for it.

-Sam

Uncle Mike
December 17, 2009, 11:52 AM
I still think it's cool. But I don't think I'd pay extra for it.

Me too.

Sam1911
December 17, 2009, 12:22 PM
But no one has used a bolt-action rifle that way in half a century, at least.


Kind of like putting a bayonet lug or stacking swivel on a modern bolt-action rifle. I mean, sure, you could still use them, but I'd doubt many folks ever would.

-Sam

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