Best semi-auto trigger?


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396chevy
December 16, 2009, 10:56 PM
Ok my question is simple what semi auto handgun has the best out of the box SA trigger I don't care if it has a DA/SA trigger or SAO. Its going to be a range gun, I just want a Great SA trigger, light clean very little if any take up, quick reset no stacking ect ect ect... What do you guys recommend? I was looking at a beretta billennium or a sig sauer x5 L1, I love the trigger on my hammereli trailside and colt python, What larger caliber semi auto pistol has a trigger that compares to these, at smallest I want a 9mm. Thanks Pat

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LancerMW
December 16, 2009, 11:08 PM
STI Trojan

browningguy
December 16, 2009, 11:20 PM
The Sig X5 is very nice, as is almost any high end 1911 such as STI, Brown, Wilson etc. The custom shop Springfields can also be very very nice.

huckster
December 16, 2009, 11:55 PM
The best is gonna be some variant of the 1911A1.... it's the standard against which all others are judged.

The Bushmaster
December 17, 2009, 12:30 AM
Sorry huckster, but the only way to get a good trigger pull on any 1911 is to send it to a good gunsmith and have it worked. My Colt 1911 is a fine example of one out of the box needing a trigger job. It is a fine crisp breaking 2 3/4 lb pull now.

Clarence
December 17, 2009, 12:47 AM
My Ed Brown Special Forces has the best factory trigger I've ever pulled. It's a little less than 4 lbs. Never been touched by anyone since it left the factory.

bob.a
December 17, 2009, 12:58 AM
Some folks think the HK P7 trigger is excellent. I won't disagree.

1SOW
December 17, 2009, 01:00 AM
High end .45acp: STI, worked Colt, and others mentioned.

They can be had in 9mm/38super also.

Way cheaper, but with a noteworthy trigger is the SA CZ in either 9mm or 40 cal, with a $160 trigger job from the CZ Custom shop. Reliable, 2lbs crisp, short reset, smoooooth, high cap ,4.73"bbl and accurate. A little $more and you can have adjustable rear sights if really tight groups at long range is your thing.

You buy from the Custom Shop, they do the trigger, so it's oob with fine trigger to you.

P.S. 69 SS Chevelle

Coronach
December 17, 2009, 01:12 AM
The best trigger in my collection of handguns is on my BHP. I strongly suspect that the previous owner had some work done on it. The P7 is a close second. The 1911 (1927 Sistema, actually), is third...though I suspect that the 1911's could be cleaned up to be the best of the bunch.

Once you get into the world of 1911 triggers, the two questions you will have are "who did the work?" and "how much money did you spend?" If you're talking "out of the box" triggers, realize that the line between "stock", "semi-custom" and "custom" has been blurred beyond recognition, so comparing apples to apples is hard. I'm way out of my ken talking about custom 1911s, so I'll just leave it with conventional wisdom: the best trigger is probably a custom 1911 trigger, and you have a whole lot of variety to choose from. Bring your wallet.

Mike

Elvishead
December 17, 2009, 06:14 AM
1911 and I don't own one and have no short future to own one, but I've shot around 12.

Ohh, by the way, nothing shoot's I've shot is better in SA than my SW 327 R8

Elvishead
December 17, 2009, 06:26 AM
Elvishead:

1911 and I don't own one and have no short future to own one, but I've shot around 12.

Ohh, by the way, nothing shoot's I've shot is better in SA than my SW 327 R8

That's not true. but it has the shortest pull but not the softest ever, like It's zero,though it seem's.

hinton03
December 17, 2009, 10:46 AM
SAO - 1911
DAO - Kahr

searcher451
December 17, 2009, 11:16 AM
Walther P99 AS trigger configuration.

396chevy
December 19, 2009, 01:16 AM
How does a top of the line 1911 ed brown sti ect ect ect.... compare to a S&W 945? My 945 has a very nice trigger but I still prefer the trigger on my trailside 22.

CWL
December 19, 2009, 01:55 AM
I'd have to say any HK P7 family of pistol would be best. Only my "semi custom" M1911s will match the trigger feel, but my stock M1911s usually have some play to the trigger.

Been a while since I've fired a BHP...

Clarence
December 19, 2009, 01:59 AM
How does a top of the line 1911 ed brown sti ect ect ect.... compare to a S&W 945? My 945 has a very nice trigger but I still prefer the trigger on my trailside 22.
I really can't say as I've never shot a 945.

The absolute best trigger I've ever pulled on a handgun is on my S&W M-41

belus
December 19, 2009, 02:08 AM
Out of the box, the best I've had was a CZ TS. HK P7 was decent too.

If you're willing to have it worked on there are lots of options.

7005R
December 19, 2009, 08:59 PM
I do not know about "best", but my Sig X5 trigger is excellent. Just as nice as my Wilson or Nighthawk. HK P7 is not very "crisp" in my opinion. Kind of mushy. And an added plus, the X5 L1 trigger is adjustable!

loadedround
December 19, 2009, 09:46 PM
My reply may not be the answer 396chevy is looking for but the best trigger in a centerfire semiauto pistol is found in the S&W Model 52 Master in 38 Special. I realize that this pistol is a specialized(and discontinued) used strictly for bullseye shooting with wad cutter ammo, but you will never find an out of box pistol witha sweeter trigger. JMHO!

Maelstrom
December 19, 2009, 09:59 PM
Plenty of people badmouth Kimber but mine has a better trigger than my STI Trojan.

Dr_2_B
December 19, 2009, 11:07 PM
me too... DAO=Kahr

Sunray
December 20, 2009, 12:22 AM
"...best out of the box SA trigger..." None. Every new firearm, currently made, requires a trigger job due to frivolous U.S. law suits. Doing a trigger job doesn't always require a smithy. Just changing the springs can make a difference. However, if you're in the least bit concerned about doing it yourself, send the pistol to a pistol smithy. Not all smithies do pistol trigger jobs well.

mljdeckard
December 20, 2009, 12:27 AM
Why does every pistol require a trigger job, and how does modifying the trigger prevent more lawsuits than it has the potential to cause?

My Kimber Custom II has a perfect, crisp 4 lb trigger out of tghe box. Not only do I not want to modify it, I will probably keep this gun forever.

And while I'm not a Beretta fan, the 92 series in single-action shoots great to me as well.

weisse52
December 20, 2009, 12:45 AM
S&W model 41
My last two new Colts have been excellent.

rellascout
December 20, 2009, 12:53 AM
"...best out of the box SA trigger..." None. Every new firearm, currently made, requires a trigger job due to frivolous U.S. law suits. Doing a trigger job doesn't always require a smithy. Just changing the springs can make a difference. However, if you're in the least bit concerned about doing it yourself, send the pistol to a pistol smithy. Not all smithies do pistol trigger jobs well.

I love this comment coming for a Canadian... There are tons of very good SA guns out of the box.

Sig x-5 series are excellent.

Any of the Dan Wesson line of 1911s will give you a great out of the box trigger for a production gun.

You could name 10+ makers of 1911's who will be prefect out of the box. Wilson, Les Baer, STI, Fusion, Ed Brown, Novak, Colt Custom Shop, NightHawk, Rock River etc....

It all depends on what you want to spend and what you want the gun to do.

NinjaFeint
December 20, 2009, 04:08 AM
Smith and Wesson 945

Full Metal Jacket
December 20, 2009, 05:54 AM
Springfield's operator 1911's come with great out of the box triggers. :)

m2steven
December 20, 2009, 10:26 AM
I just purchased an HK-P7 and it's as nice a trigger as you'll find. I have a SIG X-5 and it's also super. My 1911 is excellent. I agree about the Kahr trigger system. It's long but very good.

Right below these is the trigger on my Taurus 92AFS. It's super nice and has a great feel to it.

I'm kind of a shaky handed person, so the trigger is very important to me in keeping my sights on target. All of the pistols I've mentioned allow me to do that. They all feel different and they are all superb.

TonyRumore
December 20, 2009, 04:04 PM
Smith & Wesson model 52, 38 wadcutter.

Tony

Teddyb
December 20, 2009, 04:12 PM
It all depends on the intended purpose of the trigger.

For Target and Competition shooting the single action trigger seems to prevail

For Self Defense carry a DAO or Safe Action Glock seems to prevail from what I have read.

SharpsDressedMan
December 20, 2009, 04:40 PM
Was there ever a queston? A finely tuned 1911 trigger, with little takeup, no creep and overtravel, at 2.5-5 lbs, depending on your needs or preference, is all you will ever need. On top of that, they can be had in weapons from .22Lr to .460 Rowland (or .50G.I., or who knows!)

BlayGlock
December 20, 2009, 07:29 PM
SAO - 1911
DAO - Kahr


I concur.

EddieNFL
December 20, 2009, 07:52 PM
Every new firearm, currently made, requires a trigger job due to frivolous U.S. law suits.

Must be every firearm made since my last purchase (July 09).

Teddyb
December 20, 2009, 10:09 PM
But I got to say Glock is the easiest one to cure..lol..!!

2nd 41
December 20, 2009, 10:11 PM
Colt Gold Cup

But the King is a Mod 41 S&W

medmo
December 21, 2009, 05:36 PM
A tuned 1911 trigger is like no other semi-auto. A creapless no take up light pull, no over travel and breaks like glass.

SwampWolf
December 22, 2009, 08:50 PM
Smith & Wesson Model 52- hands down.

1SOW
December 22, 2009, 11:05 PM
The OP ,asked for minimum 9mm.

Like the model41, below 9mm opens a giant spectrum of good triggers.

earlthegoat2
December 22, 2009, 11:10 PM
Single action

ckone
December 23, 2009, 12:07 PM
I just copied my post from a thread about best range 9mm, but it's my answer here as well... 1911 triggers are great when tuned in, but as far as out-of-the-box and the fact that it's so simple a monkey could probably adjust the over-travel and pre-travel screws and maybe polish the trigger bow if needed... this wins:

EAA/Tanfoglio Witness Elite Match.

It's a Cz-clone that's better than a CZ as in the interest of streamlining the manufacturing this design ended up with less parts to mess up and is far less complicated to detail-strip, upgrade or smith, yet, most importantly, is free of the dreaded CZ-hammer-camming (a CZ trigger CANNOT be made as good as these do to the design differences... no amount of smithing on one can change that).

Use it to annoy any gun-snob friends by shooting it side-by-side to any of their high dollar Ed Brown's, Wilson's, Kimber's, Baer's, etc... laugh at them as they scratch their heads wondering why your $500 gun in trigger quality and accuracy is embarrassing their pricey toys... great fun!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f307/ckarp007/IMG_0003.jpg

robctwo
December 23, 2009, 12:37 PM
I have some nice 1911s with excellent triggers. Some from the manufacturer and one done by me with Ed Brown parts. The lightest trigger I have is on the CZ Standard IPSC, .40. I tell folks it will go off when they think about touching it. Not for everyday use, not for novices.

M1911
December 23, 2009, 01:00 PM
The best handgun triggers I've got are all 1911s. Lower end 1911s will need a trigger job, but that is not expensive and there are many 1911 gun plumbers around.

TheWarhammer
December 23, 2009, 01:31 PM
Another vote for Kahr.

sprocket3
December 23, 2009, 02:00 PM
I just went through this same issue and ended up buying the CZ Tactical Sport. The trigger is great out of box and should not require any additional work. I think you will find it on par with guns double the price.

EAA makes some copies/clones that are similar but be sure to research them out first to make sure it's what you want to have.

MikePaiN
December 23, 2009, 02:22 PM
The new Sig SP2022 has a damn fine out of the box DA/SA trigger...one of the best
I agree Kahr has the best DOA out of the box.
that's why I one of each :)

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