What calibers would you have Wincheste(FHN) chamber the Model 70's in


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Uncle Mike
December 17, 2009, 10:31 PM
As it says, what calibers/loadings would you like Winchester, aka. Brownchester to chamber the Model 70's in.

Feel free to express the caliber, twist rates, barrel lengths and the specific model of the Model 70's.

Winchester said they were going to bring the various Model 70's out in additional calibers....lets help em' out!:D

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jem375
December 17, 2009, 10:45 PM
7MM STW... 375JDJ.. that's about all I care about..

Skook
December 17, 2009, 10:59 PM
Based upon the thread I started comparing the Model 70 to the Model 7, I would say the .260 Rem.

bpl
December 17, 2009, 11:07 PM
I'd like .257 Roberts, 6.5x55, 7x57, .280 or .280AI. I'd like them in the Featherweight and Extreme Weather SS.

lopezni
December 17, 2009, 11:36 PM
well I agree with bpl, just leave out the .280 and give me an American made .222 rem.

ArmedBear
December 17, 2009, 11:52 PM
Extreme Weather SS in .338-06 A-Square (Olin should buy the rights, since Weatherby isn't doing anything with them)

Featherweight in .260 Rem

Sporter & EWSS in .264 Win Mag or, alternatively, .25-06

And a Super Grade Featherweight...

dakotasin
December 18, 2009, 12:28 AM
i'd like a fat barrelled 24" 218 bee, a 26-27" light-as-possible contour 264 win mag, and probably wouldn't kill them to make a sub 8-pound 375 ruger w/ a 21-22" barrel...

Water-Man
December 18, 2009, 01:29 AM
6.5x55 Swede

Wanta B
December 18, 2009, 02:30 AM
338-06 A-Square Extreme Weather SS 22"...NO CHEEK REST.
Feather Weight SS 22"

260 Rem as above
Coyote,24"

375 and 416 Ruger SS 22" AA grade walnut with both metal and wood having a satin finish....Call me crazy but I would like them in the Feather Weight with this look too...Hmmm,add to that a 458-416 Ruger.(I wish Hornady would make that cartridge.)


BIG 338's one full on Target/Tactical and one as above.

evan price
December 18, 2009, 05:46 AM
6.5X55 Swede in the Extreme weather SS

blackops
December 18, 2009, 05:55 AM
7WSM

JimKirk
December 18, 2009, 08:00 AM
6.5 WSM in a Featherweight with a 24" barrel

Jimmy K

A new beginning for thr 264 Winchester!

Mr_Pale_Horse
December 18, 2009, 10:42 AM
7x57, 8x57 JS, 9.3x62

Wanta B
December 18, 2009, 12:41 PM
9.3x62....Very fine cartridge!! I'dlike to see that in a feather weight with AA walnut 24".

Also like to have one as above in 450 Marlin 22"

Uncle Mike
December 18, 2009, 01:03 PM
Well... save your wishes for Santa....had to call Winchester this AM, while on the horn, talked with Cust. Serv./Info., asked in reference to new calibers of the Model 70 coming out this year.....Ready....!?!


New for 2010...additional calibers for the Model 70 line of rifles.

Model 70 Safari-
375 H&H-
416 Remington MAG.
456 WIN.MAG.

Model 70 Sporter and Extreme Weather S.S-
7mm Remington MAG.
338 WIN.MAG.

Model 70 Featherweight-
NO NEW CALIBERS for 2010.

Well, I for one am very disappointed, but what do you do, Winchester seems to still have a lot of faith in the WSM's which, even the two people I spoke with this mourning agreed were faltering badly.

Our sales of the WSM and the SAUM, in certain calibers is non-existent right now.

Oh well.....

TheGrimReaper
December 18, 2009, 01:06 PM
.260 Rem, 6.5x55, 7x57, 280 Rem

Float Pilot
December 18, 2009, 01:09 PM
In the featherweight: 257 Roberts, 260 rem. 6.5x55 Swede, 7x57mm, 358 Win.

In Standard: 35 Whelen, 9.3x62mm

Wanta B
December 18, 2009, 01:16 PM
+1 for the Feather weight in 358 Win.

Robert
December 18, 2009, 01:19 PM
Float Pilot beat me to it. 35 Whelen.

Wanta B
December 18, 2009, 01:22 PM
In such a short thread thus far, and three of us want a 9.3x62. I had no idea that cartridge was so popular in the States.

ColeK
December 18, 2009, 01:24 PM
I'd like .257 Roberts, 6.5x55, 7x57, 8x57 JS, and 9.3x62. I'd like them in the Featherweight and maybe Extreme Weather SS.

ColeK
December 18, 2009, 01:26 PM
It is now 4 that want a 9.3x62

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 18, 2009, 01:33 PM
.280 Rem, without a doubt.

Maybe .35 Whelen

Maybe .260 Rem

Maaaaaaaybe 7mm WSM

ArmedBear
December 18, 2009, 01:36 PM
.338-06 offers the same bullet weights as .35 Whelen, but with better velocity for any given weight, and better BC across the board.

200 grain .338-06 velocities are in the same ballpark as 165 grain .30-06 velocities.

A good look at the numbers makes the .338-06 look like one hell of a cartridge, and one that ought to be readily available -- before .35 Whelen, even.

GooseGestapo
December 18, 2009, 01:45 PM
Ditto FloatPilot and ArmedBear; except the .338/06 instead of .35Whelen.
I've got one, and it IS one hell of a cartridge.
I get '06-200gr velocities with 250gr bullets, and 300winmag energies.
I get only 75-90fps less than .338winmag velocities, and gun holds 6rds instead of 3-4 like the magnum.....
But, I already have one, and don't need another.

However, I would buy a 6.5x55 or .260 in a lightwt. M70.

Wanta B
December 18, 2009, 01:46 PM
As far as models go I am with ColeK,tho' I also like the idea of bringing back the feather weight in all Stainless. Add a nice varmint/target profile.

Stainless/Synthetic,Stainless/Laminate,Stainless/Walnut...Classic Satin Blue/Walnut.


Back to caliber,35 Whelen is sweet too.I am having a 30-06 FW rebarreled to it right now.Should have it back in a week or two.

ArmedBear
December 18, 2009, 01:53 PM
I already have one, and don't need another.


Do those two statements necessarily follow?

I just bought a Model 70 in .30-06, which I already have in another rifle...:)

Wanta B
December 18, 2009, 01:54 PM
ArmedBear--I agree the 338-06 is awesome,same for the now "legit" 338 Federal(also like to see that in their line up).

338 and 35 are good for different reasons to a point,and I love 'em both...338 for more distance,35 for COAL/Weight takes it tho'. I never can deside so I get both.:rolleyes:

berettashotgun
December 18, 2009, 01:59 PM
Please offer every rifle in a choice of walnut or laminate with blued or SS

Featherweights: 6MM, 260, 264, 6.5x55, 7wsm, 358 win , 376 steyr

Classic: 6XC , 6MM , 338-06 , .35 Whelen , 376 steyr - I'd LOVE to see what the Steyr is capable of from a 24" tube.

Varmint type : 6XC, 6MM, 270WSM, :evil:7WSM could sell like hotcakes with the label - " Counter Sniper Long Range"
I hope they get the customer service right.:cuss:

ColeK
December 18, 2009, 02:05 PM
In such a short thread so far, I think it's amazing that 3 want .257 Roberts, 6 want 6.5x55, 5 want 7x57, 2 want 8x57 JS, and 4 want 9.3x62.
It would seem that there is a demand for these fine old cartridges.

USSR
December 18, 2009, 03:08 PM
I've got a barrel in 6.5x55 off of a New Haven, Conn built M70 Classic Featherweight rifle, if anybody wants to change calibers.

Don

desidog
December 18, 2009, 03:32 PM
-Left Hand Actions!
Winchester could dominate a thin market...Regular calibers like .308 as well as the wsm's

-SS/Blue & Wood/Synthetic options (i'm partial to Stainless and wood)

-An iron/open sight factory option for the Featherweight

-.416WSM

I'd love a LH Feathweight carbine (18-20"bbl) with irons..stainless and walnut

slvrbulit12
December 18, 2009, 03:59 PM
6.5x55 Swedish mauser & 260 Remington, both with 22" barrels.

SSN Vet
December 18, 2009, 04:15 PM
260 rem

pwillie
December 18, 2009, 11:49 PM
257 Weatherby, any Weatherby caliber.

Clipper
December 19, 2009, 07:37 AM
I'd like to see the featherweight in .257 Roberts...And make the featherweight a real featherweight!! 21" barrel, shorten that lovely schnabel forend an inch or two, and a 13-13 1/2" LOP

notenoughtime
December 19, 2009, 07:48 AM
9.3x62 here. It has become my favorite cartridge for whitetail deer.

Runningman
December 19, 2009, 10:23 AM
I would buy a new one if they chambered it in 9.3x62! Can't really understand why the American rifle manufactures are asleep at the wheel on the excellent 104 year old 9.3x62 cartridge. It is interesting to note a guy in Australia bought a new Ruger bolt action in 9.3x62 within the last year. But it seems Ruger will only export the 9.3 x 62. None for the US.

It should be noted that the 9.3x62 is already factory loaded by Norma, Lapua, Prvi Partizan and Nosler. And if you handload Swift sells 300 grain bullets for the 9.3 if you need some heavy weights.

Would like to see a new Model 70 stainless in 9.3 x62 for Elk and Moose hunting and I would imagine they would sell more than a few in Alaska and Canada for Moose hunting.

Already have three 6.5x55 rifles otherwise I would add that one. But a 6.5 WSM would also get me to buy a new Model 70 rifle. So would a 6.5 - 284 Norma. Interesting to note Savage is coming out with a 6.5 x 284 Norma in a hunting rifle soon. The Model 111 long range hunter with synthetic AccuStock in a 1 in 8 twist.

Wanta B
January 26, 2010, 01:56 PM
More than likely will not happen but it apears to be a tie between 6.5x55 Swiss and 9.3x62 at 6 each...:scrutiny:

Still wanting all stainless in nice walnut Feather Weight.

ArmedBear
January 26, 2010, 02:05 PM
Still wanting all stainless in nice walnut Feather Weight.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/img/535119m.jpg

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mid=535119

wlewisiii
January 26, 2010, 02:12 PM
.257 Roberts, 6.5x55, 7x57, 9.3x62

Any of those & I might consider one. Otherwise I'll stick to rehabilitating milsurp Mausers.

William

Fremmer
January 26, 2010, 02:14 PM
.26-06 would be a nice option, expecially for the featherweight.

How many of you have seen the new Winchesters in person? I hear they look good w/ fit & finish. Do the short action rifles actually have shorter actions? Sorry about the thread drift. :uhoh:

ArmedBear
January 26, 2010, 02:18 PM
I bought one, and I've seen a lot of others.

They do look good. The triggers are way beyond good. Mine did 3-shot <.7MOA groups (1.25" @ 200 yards) the first day out, after initial break-in of 20-25 shots.

The short actions are short actions, yes.

praharin
January 26, 2010, 02:26 PM
.338 Lapua

under $800.

:D

Wanta B
January 26, 2010, 02:32 PM
ArmedBear---Just made my day!!!:D:DWell,night,but anyhow.:D

Wanta B
January 26, 2010, 02:35 PM
Coyote Outback comes in .22-250. Looks a bit different,blue receiver,fluted stainless barrel and a laminate stock with cut-outs and wide foregrip. Very nicely balanced,smoooooth and accurate.

Sorry got chambering wrong it is now correct.

Water-Man
January 26, 2010, 02:41 PM
Some companies just have to learn the hard way! If at all!

454c
January 26, 2010, 02:43 PM
Featherweight in 260 and 25-06.

Wanta B
January 26, 2010, 02:51 PM
AH CRUDD!! Just noticed that the all stainless walnut are Shot Show models and do not come in .300WM:(...Well,if I can locate one I'll be going for .30-06:) and maybe .308:scrutiny:.

Hmmm...4x .30-06 then have two made into a .338-06,.300WM AND 9.3X62...
4x .308... .338Fed.,.358Win. and .260Rem.


A guy can dream right?

K-Dirt
January 26, 2010, 02:51 PM
I'd love to see Winchester (or Remington, Browning, Tikka, Kimber, or Weatherby) make a left-handed .280 Rem. Just because sometimes lefties don't feel like using a 30/06 or 270.

Wanta B
January 26, 2010, 03:00 PM
AH!...Alright have to get one done in 9.3x62!:D

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
January 26, 2010, 03:40 PM
Ok, after looking a the numbers, I'll buy it - .338-'06 instead of .35 Whelen! :)

And, it makes the step up to 9.3x62mm a REAL step up, not an insignificant one.

Wanta B
January 26, 2010, 03:48 PM
Agreed,both is even better!:D

I do not know about the numbers however...Same weight projectile and same powder and COAL...the .35 should be faster at first but bleed off speed and "rainbow" more. In other words the .35 would make the better short range and the .338 the better distance choice. Unless you want the better SD. But the .35 should have better energy and velocity under 300-350yrds or so.:scrutiny:

Big fan of both...:)

kw4570gov
January 26, 2010, 06:17 PM
Feather weight in 280 Rem. and a SS HB Syn. stock in 7MM STW

Vern Humphrey
January 26, 2010, 07:13 PM
I'll be an iconoclast here:

1. .22 LR. Yes. The Model 70 ought to be issued in a micro-action, chambered for .22 LR, .22 WMR, .17 HMR and .22 Hornet.

2. .223 Rem. This would be a mini-action, able to handle cartridges in the .223 to .22-250 range.

3. .260 Rem, but with a fast twist barrel, identical to the 6.5X55 twist. This short action would also handle 7mm-08 and and other .308-based cartridges.

4. .30-06. The same action would also handle .300 WM, of course.

5. A true magnum action for cartridges ranging from 7mm Rem Mag to .375 H&H to .458 Lott.

ArmedBear
January 26, 2010, 07:19 PM
I'd like to see #1 and #2, also, though if I had to pick, I'd pick #1 first.:)

Of course, #3 and #4 actions are here, except for the .260 barrel.

WRT #5: I have not seen one, but there's supposedly a Safari Express model.
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mid=535116

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/img/535116x1m.jpg

Peter M. Eick
January 26, 2010, 08:04 PM
222 Remington
220 Swift

Most of the other calibers are readily available.

earlthegoat2
January 26, 2010, 08:45 PM
Id like a Full Stock option in 257 Roberts, 6.5x55, 7x57, 308, and 350 Rem Mag.

joed
January 26, 2010, 08:57 PM
Geez, not one vote for the .25-06? That's almost a must have, that cartridge has seen a big rise in popularity since it came out. I know Winchester used to offer it because I almost bought one.

But I'm good, I have one of the last Stealths produced in .308 and I wouldn't trade it.

villemur
January 26, 2010, 09:28 PM
.250 Savage

WYcoyote
January 26, 2010, 10:26 PM
6.5x55 Fwt SS 22" barrel
6.5x.284 Ex. Weather 24" barrel
300 Win mag Ex. Weather with 24" barrel instead of 26"
.375 Ruger in Safari

52grain
January 26, 2010, 10:41 PM
Heavy contour (not fluted) in .260 rem with a fiberglass stock with aluminum bedding rails. Parkerized finish or stainless steel.

Big Bill
January 27, 2010, 12:41 AM
7.62x39

30-30

JimKirk
January 27, 2010, 01:14 AM
Since I can't have a 6.5 WSM ... I go for a 25/06!

Jimmy K

Dirtpile
January 27, 2010, 11:47 AM
I'd like to see .257 rob., 7mm-08, .260 rem, .25-06 and 7x57 across the board.
Or just more short action offerings all around would be fine too. (Real ones, not the WSM crap.)

Maverick223
January 27, 2010, 01:06 PM
Well, I am glad I missed this thread until now. Otherwise I would have waited on the new Safari Express in .375H&H instead of buying a Whitworth Mauser a couple of weeks ago.

FWIW, I think they should have introduced a .260Rem. Like I said before (about the .375H&H, but they lied and said one wasn't coming...their loss) if you make one, I will buy.

:)

HGUNHNTR
January 27, 2010, 01:08 PM
6.5x55 swede
.260
.264 Win Mag

EdLaver
January 27, 2010, 01:10 PM
+1
I agree with Big Bill 7.62x39

earlthegoat2
January 27, 2010, 01:26 PM
No short magnums please.

Just good classics.

natman
January 27, 2010, 03:26 PM
.250 Savage
+1

Blue steel and walnut short action Featherweight, please!

Wanta B
January 27, 2010, 03:41 PM
+1 .350 RemMag
350 Remington Magnum,Feather Weight,Stainless,Walnut...:D

Earlthegoat2,no offence intended...it is a classic tho'.:)

The "original short magnum",still very impressive and has the huge advantage of being able to use most any common magnum brass for cases...once resized of coarse.:cool:

Want a bit more power...Use Ruger brass from their "magnums" and go "beltless".:D...Could do a .35Sambar:D

Off the top of my head I can not remember if the .300Rcm case is the same length as the 350Rem.Mag. ...

Geno
January 27, 2010, 03:54 PM
I'd like the see the Sporter model offered with a real barrel for the .270 Winchester...make it 26" and let the cartridge stretch its legs for once. They now show a .270, .30-06, .300, .338, .375, .416 and .458?! Heck, I'm good. Let's stretch those barrels. Okay, maybe add the .264 Win Mag. Now I'm good. :D

Geno

ArmedBear
January 27, 2010, 08:37 PM
I'm curious. Why would anyone want a Model 70 in 7.62x39mm?

rust collector
January 27, 2010, 09:18 PM
If they'd just make an upgraded walnut featherweight in 6.5 x 55, they'd have my $$ in a heartbeat. 260 would be a great consolation prize, but not as classic.

rem300ultra
January 27, 2010, 09:34 PM
220 Swift
300 RUM

earlthegoat2
January 27, 2010, 10:41 PM
Earlthegoat2,no offence intended...it is a classic tho'

None taken, WantaB.

If you look closer you will see I am the one that suggested it up at post number 58. I dont consider it a short magnum though because it came around before the short magnum name came around and it does not have a rebated rim.

Handgunner
January 27, 2010, 11:44 PM
I'm curious. Why would anyone want a Model 70 in 7.62x39mm?

I'd like to have one with iron sights to use as a brush gun. :D

GunsBeerFreedom
January 27, 2010, 11:48 PM
I'm curious. Why would anyone want a Model 70 in 7.62x39mm?

Gotta have something else, might as well have it share cheap centerfire ammo.

Wanta B
January 28, 2010, 12:06 AM
Earlthegoat2...Ah yes,quite right,indeed you were...Glad no offence was taken.
Your suggestion is the one that braught me back to a "short magnum" type project I have been thinking of for some time now,off and on. I realy like the new Brownchesters and feel one would make a great base for it. I too am not sure of the rebated rims. That is why I have been looking at the Ruger Compact Magnums. A .358-.300RCM would be sort of a .350RemMag AI and would have no rebated rim.:)

7.62x39...I am another one of those guys that have been looking at a compact boltaction in this chambering...with iron sights as well. I have been taking a close look at the CZs in this. I would realy like a Winchester in it.. They are just so nice and well made!:)

Wanta B
January 28, 2010, 12:12 AM
Quick tally of the most requested...
.260Rem.=16
6.5x55Swede=12
7x57=8
9.3x62=7
.257Roberts=7

FWIW.;)

Maverick223
January 28, 2010, 12:38 AM
Quick tally of the most requested...
.260Rem.=16
6.5x55Swede=12
7x57=8
9.3x62=7
.257Roberts=7
I would settle for either the .260Rem (as I mentioned earlier)...or the 6.5x55...or the 6.5Creedmoor...or anything else with a .308ish case capacity and 6.5mm projectile.

For what reason I don't know (already have a .375H&H that fills the same role), but I would also like to see a 9.3x64Brenneke. http://forums.nitroexpress.com/images/graemlins/smilies/general/dunno.gif

Welding Rod
January 28, 2010, 12:44 AM
I don't know what it would require to be feasible, but:

300 and 338 RUM

Vern Humphrey
January 28, 2010, 11:02 AM
Quick tally of the most requested...
.260Rem.=16
6.5x55Swede=12
That's 28 votes for essentially the same cartridge -- if they'd put a fast twist barrel on the .260.

garyhan
January 28, 2010, 12:41 PM
.204 Ruger, .257 Wby Mag, 6.5x55, .404 Jeffry.

gary

Wanta B
January 28, 2010, 01:29 PM
Ooooh...9.3x64 Brenneke!! One of the first dozen rifles I purchased was a Styer in 9.3x64B. MY first synthetic stocked bolt action. Have not shot it in more than 4 yrs:o!! I'll not part with it tho'.

6.5mm...Yeh,28! I think .260Rem. is my first choice...currently. Must be fast twist,I completely agree!
Giving LOTS of thought to converting one of the all stainless/walnut shot show guns to it.:scrutiny::)

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