[birdshot8's]

i was looking at a traditions break open, with a removeable breach plug. the rifle did not have an extractor/ejector for the primers. is the primer pocket loose enough that fingernail works to remove it or do you carry a seperate tool?

[CoRoMo]

My brother has a Traditions, but it isn't the break open. He has to tote along a pair of needle nose pliers. Same case with my Dad's CVA. Since the Traditions was purchased used, I have no idea if they offer a special tool for this, but if not, they should.

[alsaqr]

You need the CVA 209 Capper/Extractor Tool.

http://www.cva.com/loading.html

[scrat]

the cva capper extractor looks like a fork. it will slide between the primer and breech

[birdshot8's]

thanks, seems a little cheap to not have an extractor.

[birdshot8's]

do some states not allow inlines for the muzzle loader season? my thread, drift ok.

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Those little things don't cost much. You can get a handful for next to nothing. I hope you got the wrench with it though. I know on my CVA's and Traditions (standard bolt action) I received a wrench with each rifle. As for as the 209 fork you'll find out that with some practice you can just pull the bolt back, drop the 209 in point the muzzle at the ground and the bolt will slide right on home with no problem. Of course you have a break open and I'vd never messed with one of those but I'd just about bet that seating the 209 (getting it started) is just as simple..PS, I forgot. I'vd never had much of a problem but if you have like a good Leatherman Tool you will find that sometimes it will come in handy for removal purposes until you get a few forks to scatter among your gear so's you will alway's have one handy....

[birdshot8's]

GOC, i was looking at the new rifles, i have not bought an inline. You mentioned a wrench. the sales information claimed the knurled plug was removable fingers only. seemed like it would make cleaning a snap since you could remove the plug.

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Okay, my mistake. Sorry. I know where you're coming from now. My neighbor has a Traditions Vortek with a breechplug removable with her fingers. (never seen her do it)....

[Hawkeye748]

Birdshot,

Yes, some state's do not allow in-lines for primative/BP hunting. A few only allow flint locks.

On the other end, one, allows anything of a single/double barrel above .35 caliber. :what: Effectively, it is no longer a BP season anymore. :cuss::banghead:

[TomADC]

GOC, i was looking at the new rifles, i have not bought an inline. You mentioned a wrench. the sales information claimed the knurled plug was removable fingers only. seemed like it would make cleaning a snap since you could remove the plug.

My Traditions Yukon in line came with a wrench to remove the breech plug the instructions state to remove for cleaning prior to shooting it the first time.
I haven't shot it yet but I can see where that is going to make cleaning a snap.

[frontiergander]

if its a break action, a primer tool isnt needed. Take note to the space that allows your fingers to easily grip and remove the primer:
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm53/thepowerbeltforum/accuhr006.jpg

[Nicodemus38]

actually havent found a factory installed breech plug on inlines that doesnt need alot of force to remove. id really like to know what torque setting they used on installation with my cva.

[frontiergander]

CVA recommends that you only tighten the breech plug " Finger tight" Just use the tool and screw it in with your fingers. Once the plug stops, you're all done. They dont have to be tightened down like a lug nut on a tire.

[alemonkey]

On my CVA I only have to break it open and point the barrel towards the sky, and the primer falls free.

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Yeah, I'vd never had much trouble with the 209's on either the CVA or Traditions. Well, I tighten my plug down some. I don't twist on it like I'm trying to tear it up or something but I give it a little bump with the wrench....

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

My neighbor's pretty savvy. I asked her about the plug (on e-mail) and she said she got a wrench with the Vortek to. She says she uses the wrench for the inital unloosening and for putting the extra little tightening on it when she replaces it to insure none of the hot gases find their way into her face..Smart girl. I knew there was some reason I sort of adopted her!....