.22 handguns that are copies of their larger caliber brothers.


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Ant Mod
November 11, 2003, 04:12 PM
After looking around the only one I could find was the Walther P22. I know that 1911 varients have a .22 conversion. What other production handguns have a .22 caliber version. I am looking for a .22 handgun that looks, feels, and functions like a larger caliber model. Thanks for any help.

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10-Ring
November 11, 2003, 04:22 PM
The one that really looks & feels likes its bigger bros is the S&W 617 wheelgun. I guess the conversion kits for the CZ's, 1911's, Beretta 92 & 96 and Glocks come to mind too :cool:

SDC
November 11, 2003, 04:25 PM
Off the top of my head, the Colt Ace, the CZ Cadet, and the Colt Diamondback, are all pretty close copies (or the same frame) as their larger-calibre brothers.

VictorLouis
November 11, 2003, 07:23 PM
centerfire .380 (m85?).

JoeHatley
November 11, 2003, 07:28 PM
Model 17 .22
http://www.iowatelecom.net/~hatley/17_4_l.jpg

Model 14 .38
http://www.iowatelecom.net/~hatley/14_4l.jpg

Model 19 .357
http://www.iowatelecom.net/~hatley/19_4l.jpg

Joe

DMK
November 11, 2003, 07:45 PM
The Ruger Single Six and Blackhawk are pretty close, no?

10mmshooter
November 11, 2003, 08:57 PM
I was at my neighbors' place today, and he has a really neat .22 LR version of the old Luger 9mm parabellum pistol. The thing even says Luger on it, and is identical to the genuine article in every respect. I thought it was a really interesting piece. Anybody ever seen one of these, or know anything about them?

Standing Wolf
November 11, 2003, 09:25 PM
The Colt Diamondback was a junior version of the Python.

P95Carry
November 11, 2003, 09:29 PM
Long, long ago ... had this Colt Trooper in .22 . exact same weight and everything, as the 38/357.

http://www.bedford.net/design/shoot/Trooper_hr.jpg


Home made mahogany grips BTW.

Jim K
November 11, 2003, 11:53 PM
Hi, 10mmshooter,

That .22 pistol is what is known as the Stoeger Luger, put out by Stoeger, the long time importer and publisher of The Shooters Bible".

Stoeger obtained the U.S. copyright to the trade name "Luger" in the 1920's and actually is the only company that can use that name in the U.S. In Germany, the pistol was never called the Luger, it was always called the Parabellum pistol or the Pistole 08 by the military.

So that .22 is legally the only real Luger around. That being said, it is not a bad little pistol, but I definitely do not recommend taking it apart. It is not even as close a copy of the Parabellum as the Erma version is, but it is more rugged and will stand up longer.

(Some info on Stoeger from their web site, FYI:

"The decades after World War II brought many changes to Stoeger. Perhaps the most significant of these was the death of founder A.F. Stoeger on August 22, 1945, and his replacement by his son, Alexander F. Stoeger, Jr., at the helm of the company. The first Stoeger catalog actually to bear the title Shooter’s Bible appeared in 1946.

Both Stoeger Industries and Stoeger Publishing Co. were ultimately purchased by Sako of Finland from the heirs of A.F. Stoeger, Jr. For years Stoeger had been the exclusive importer of Sako guns in the United States. The company changed hands again at the end of 2000, when Sako was purchased by Beretta Holdings, Ltd. Today, Stoeger Publishing thrives under the management of Benelli USA.")



Jim

Preacherman
November 12, 2003, 12:26 AM
There are many handguns that accept .22LR conversion kits - Glock, CZ, 1911's of various flavors, etc. I personally like that approach, as one retains the same grip, trigger, etc. for training as one would use for carry/defence/hunting/etc. (BTW: I strongly recommend the Advantage Arms conversion kits for Glocks, rather than the Ciener units, for reasons of customer service. The AA units can also be fitted with any Glock sight, which means that your training unit can be fitted with the same sights as your carry unit. Useful, that... :D )

Other possibilities (other than the many already mentioned):

1. Ruger make the SP101 in .22LR as well as .38, .357 and (I think) .32;

2. S&W's K-frame M17 is a dead ringer for the Models 19, 66, etc.;

3. Taurus make their Model 94 in .22LR, in various barrel lengths; in the 2" version, it's a dead ringer for their Model 85, 605, etc.

There are probably more to add to the list.

SirVette
November 12, 2003, 08:57 AM
Many revolvers in 38 Special & 22.
Many autos in 380 (9mm Short) & 22.
BERSA 380 & 22, Walther PPK, PPK/S, PP, SIG P230, Astra Constable, Beretta 85 (380) & 87 (22), etc.

RANash
November 13, 2003, 10:05 PM
As you mentioned, you already know about conversion units. Here is my range report on the Marvel "Unit 2" conversion for the 1911:

http://www.1911forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63567

foghornl
November 14, 2003, 08:49 AM
Ruger Single-Six are .22 versions of Blackhawks.
Ruger Bearcat is smaller fixed-sght version of Single-Six.

JohnBT
November 14, 2003, 11:33 AM
Actually, the Blackhawk is the copy. :)

The Single-Six came first in 1953 vs. the Blackhawk in 1955.

JT

Stevie-Ray
November 14, 2003, 06:11 PM
I used to think the ultimate .22 was the Dan Wesson. It came with all the barrel configurations the .357s did, and looked the same.

enfield
November 17, 2003, 09:53 AM
Colt .22 Peacemaker, a 3/4 scale copy of the SAA.

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