9mm 115 grain lead with unique
supernac
December 24, 2009, 10:05 AM
Does anyone have a recipe for this? The bullets are from MBC. Lee doesn’t have any data for this combo, couldn’t find anything on google. Thanks for your help!
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RandyP
December 24, 2009, 10:27 AM
Perhaps not a good match? I dunno, the Alliant database only lists the Speer GDHP using Unique.
My Loadbooks lists a Unique load using the Lyman 115gr lead #358345 bullet using Winchester case and primer:
4.5 start gr - 1025fps - 22,200 C.U.P - 5.7 MAX gr - 1210fps - 31,500 C.U.P.
There is also listed a load using RCBS 115gr lead 09-115RN at 5.2-5.7gr of Unique
I make no claim as to the viability or safety of using the data I have just typed. While I DID triple check it, I can't guarantee it.
supernac
December 24, 2009, 10:36 AM
Thanks for your help, exactly what I needed!
zxcvbob
December 24, 2009, 10:47 AM
Alliant used to have lots of data; they gutted their database and left only the Speer bullets.
With 9mm, the bullet seating depth is critical. What is the exact length of the bullets, and what overall length are you loading them to? (from that it's easy to get the seating depth) Without that info, 5 to 5.5 grains of Unique still sounds about right. (I prefer Bullseye powder in 9mm)
RandyP
December 24, 2009, 10:54 AM
The Loadbooks data lists a .997 OAL for the Lyman bullet, oddly enough it does NOT show an OAL for the RCBS. I checked my Lyman 49th and there are no 115 gr lead loads shown, only a jacketed HP at that weight.
supernac
December 24, 2009, 11:43 AM
These are the bullets I have:
http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=117&category=5&secondary=8&keywords=
They are .54 in legnth, I was going to go for an oal of 1.10 with 4.5 of unique.
Does this sound good?
zxcvbob
December 24, 2009, 01:13 PM
They are .54 in legnth, I was going to go for an oal of 1.10 with 4.5 of unique. Does this sound good? That sounds a bit low, but it'll work. I would start at 5.0, and if it was a good load I'd stick with it. But I can't fault you for working up cautiously :)
Cartridge : 9 mm Luger (SAAMI)
Bullet : .357, 115, LRN, .54" length
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.100 inch or 27.94 mm
Barrel Length : 4.0 inch or 101.6 mm
Powder : Alliant UNIQUE
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 80 4.00 937 224 16192 3910 88.4 0.581
-18.0 82 4.10 958 234 17093 4038 89.4 0.565
-16.0 84 4.20 979 245 18029 4166 90.3 0.550
-14.0 86 4.30 1000 255 19001 4291 91.3 0.536
-12.0 88 4.40 1020 266 20010 4415 92.1 0.523
-10.0 90 4.50 1041 277 21057 4537 93.0 0.510
-08.0 92 4.60 1061 288 22142 4657 93.7 0.498
-06.0 94 4.70 1082 299 23268 4775 94.4 0.486
-04.0 96 4.80 1102 310 24434 4890 95.1 0.474
-02.0 98 4.90 1122 321 25643 5002 95.8 0.464
+00.0 100 5.00 1142 333 26896 5112 96.3 0.453
+02.0 102 5.10 1161 344 28193 5219 96.9 0.443
+04.0 104 5.20 1181 356 29537 5323 97.4 0.434
+06.0 105 5.30 1200 368 30929 5425 97.8 0.424 ! Near Maximum !
+08.0 107 5.40 1219 380 32370 5523 98.2 0.415 ! Near Maximum !
+10.0 109 5.50 1239 392 33862 5618 98.6 0.407 ! Near Maximum !
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 100 5.00 1195 365 31664 5128 99.6 0.421 ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 100 5.00 1073 294 22237 4891 89.8 0.495
rfwobbly
December 24, 2009, 01:17 PM
From the Load Book....
115gr Lyman FP lead 4.5gr to 5.7gr Unique with OAL of .997 giving a span of 1025 to 1210 FPS.
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