To "Accuwedge" or not?


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Grassman
December 24, 2009, 04:40 PM
I got an accuwedge in my last Midway order, it was cheap so why not, like under $5. I am new to the world of the AR, so I was wondering is this necessary? They claim to improve accuracy by reducing slop between the upper and lower, but I don't know? I have read both yea and nay. The one point I read that I did like was to keep the upper a little more firm as to keep the scope mount from moving. Set me strait. Again It was cheap no big loss either way.

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Floppy_D
December 24, 2009, 04:52 PM
Covered pretty well >here (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=482246&highlight=accuwedge)<.

Grassman
December 24, 2009, 04:58 PM
Thanks...I did a search before posting. Didn't find this.

Bufford t. Justice
December 24, 2009, 05:34 PM
I use them. They do help take the rattle out. The play between upper and lower doesn't really affect much unless it's severe but the rattle could get you dead when stealth is needed.

Steve in PA
December 24, 2009, 06:41 PM
If your rifle is rattling so much that stealth........is in jeopary.......your rifle is ready for the scrapp heap.

I have one in my Bushmaster, but not to stop any rattle. I just liked the tighter feel. A totally personal issue. Rifle shoots the same whether I use it or not.

Bufford t. Justice
December 24, 2009, 07:13 PM
If your rifle is rattling so much that stealth........is in jeopary.......your rifle is ready for the scrapp heap.

I have one in my Bushmaster, but not to stop any rattle. I just liked the tighter feel. A totally personal issue. Rifle shoots the same whether I use it or not.
Nonsense. Every AR platform I've ever handled had some rattle where play was evident between receivers. It's A typical and usually occurs when building from parts. It doesn't mean the rifle is scrap. ANY amount of rattle no matter how slight can give away your position and should be avoided if possible. The only sound I want my enemy to hear is "Bang"!

Sport45
December 24, 2009, 08:43 PM
The only sound I want my enemy to hear is "Bang"!

You should quit using subsonic rounds. Then your enemy wouldn't even have to hear the bang. :)

kwelz
December 24, 2009, 09:18 PM
Not. Most assuredly NOT. They serve no purpose and can cause harm in 2 ways.
People have seen them disintegrate and screw up the workings. They can also cause the take down pin to wear the take down hole into an oval shape. This will take a lot of rounds. But you are shooting a lot right?

Bufford t. Justice
December 24, 2009, 09:26 PM
Seems to me the pin hole would be worn more from slap due to slop. I can't see how a rubber bushing would cause any harm to steel or aluminum. As far as them disintegrating....it's a three dollar part. Inspect it at cleaning and if it's getting brittle replace it.

kwelz
December 24, 2009, 09:29 PM
The accuwedge is putting constant upward pressure on the receiver. That is the problem.

Bufford t. Justice
December 24, 2009, 09:39 PM
So? It also holds the two tight together preventing movement. How can you attribute wear to this? I have not observed such in any of my rifles. Many competition shooters use such or similar with no ill effects.

Quentin
December 24, 2009, 09:41 PM
I don't think they're of any real value but not likely to harm the receiver either. Myself, I don't want one near the trigger group. Try a cheap earplug first and see what that does, save the $5 for a Carl's Jr. lunch. ;)

guntech59
December 24, 2009, 10:09 PM
If your rifle is rattling so much that stealth........is in jeopary.......your rifle is ready for the scrapp heap.

I have one in my Bushmaster, but not to stop any rattle. I just liked the tighter feel. A totally personal issue. Rifle shoots the same whether I use it or not.
Slop between the upper and lower receivers does not mean that the rifle is junk. Some times just replacing the pivot pin will tighten it up enough. If not, replace the upper. That usually fixes the problem.

I run the weapons shop at Ft Drum and have been around the M16/M4/AR15 for 30 years (20 as a soldier). IMO, the accuwedge is more for peace of mind for the operator than anything else. A little quieter...yes. A little tighter....yes, but not really enough to make much difference.

My personal AR is VERY tight. In fact, I TRIED to put one of the accuwedge dickies in it and it wouldn't close far enough to get the takedown pin closed. It is sitting on my parts cabinet right now...unused.

Merry Christmas!

kwelz
December 24, 2009, 10:11 PM
because it doesn't hold things together, it applies upwards pressure to the bottom of the upper. It is actually forcing two parts apart and putting pressure on the wrong spots.

If it was holding the parts together then you would be correct but this is not the case.

Dr.Rob
December 25, 2009, 12:15 AM
Can't get one into my Colt, pin just won't go. Ah well it was only $3.

skidooman603
December 25, 2009, 04:38 AM
I'm type A and the little movement upper to lower bothers me so I use them. Does it really matter in the end, other than making me feel better....??? Prolly not..PS If ya cant get one in your colt trim it down a little more. In some of my AR's they are almost paper thin but enough to snug.

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