[WAGCEVP]

The positions of most urban liberals on firearms are dumb, dumber and
dumbest.It is dumb to suppose that the way to decrease crime is to make sure all
potential victims of violent crime are disarmed. It is dumber yet to believe that
a criminal will obey a gun-control law. No bank robber or rapist has ever set
out and then stopped and said, "Gosh, I don't have a permit for this weapon,
so I guess I'd better not rob that bank or rape that girl." No serial killer
has ever said: "Gosh, I can't kill this person with an unregistered weapon. That
would be against the law."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese4.html

[BluesBear]

The positions of most urban liberals on ANYTHING are dumb, dumber and
dumbest.

[P95Carry]

It is dumb to suppose that the way to decrease crime is to make sure all potential victims of violent crime are disarmed. It is dumber yet to believe that a criminal will obey a gun-control law. No bank robber or rapist has ever set out and then stopped and said, "Gosh, I don't have a permit for this weapon, so I guess I'd better not rob that bank or rape that girl." No serial killer has ever said: "Gosh, I can't kill this person with an unregistered weapon. That would be against the law." WAGCEVP - that Sir about sums up what I try to explain to people .. on an almost regular basis.

Logic? I sure as hell think so ... but do they see it?? All too often they refuse to remove their heads from the sand (or is it actually the place where the sun don't shine!!?) ....... because they see their ''agenda'' is so damn wonderful ...... ''getting guns off the streets'' ..... ''making the world a safer place'' ....... ''gotta protect the kids'' .. etc, yada, yada, yada ....... they are so pathetic some of them - to the extent that they won't even enjoin a sensible debate .... no, they fudge and bluster .... and try and escape.

:banghead: :banghead:

[Henry Bowman]

The libs I encounter don't value freedom. They tell me they don't want that much freedom and, so, don't want others to have it either. They want security, but will settle for the feeling or image of security and are very willing to pay for it with freedom. Theirs and mine. They are not even ashamed to admit it.

How do you argue with such an attitude?

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

It is all a debate on security versus liberty. We have grown fat and happy with security in the trade-off with self-reliance. Most libs abide by the "protect and serve" mantra fed by LE. Most libs would be happy with Stalin and Hitler.

[RobW]

Most people don't want ANY liberty! Liberty demands responsibility, and in our PC times, this is a BIG no, no.

Guess why the most intolerant religions got such a determined followship?