[Signcutter]

I don't even know if this important. But I was curious so I ask around of some people who I thought should know, even some folks on other forums and no one seems to know and I can't get Winchester to answer my email.

I have several hundred win. hulls, 12 ga. On the face is stamped at 12 o'clock WIN, at 3 o'clock is HS, at 6 o'clock is 12 GA, and at 9 o'clock is AA. These are red plastic hulls. What does the HS stand for?

[JimKirk]

High Speed? Just guessing! Winchester "High Speed" used to be part of their advertising campaign years ago.
JK

[Bailey Boat]

Supposedly "High Strength" I believe. Its the new 2 piece hull which is a POS compared to the older compression formed hulls. I'm still coasting on CF hulls and will buy any that I find in 28 and 410...... No, not interested in 20 or 12, don't shoot those gauges anymore........

[Peter M. Eick]

Baily Boat is correct. It is High Strength. I don't load winchester anymore because of it. HS rounds are "let lay" and I am picking up the remington STS one piece hulls.

[Signcutter]

What about the win. grey hulls guys. Any good? How many loads do you think I can safely get out of the AAHS win. hulls I have?

[Peter M. Eick]

Greys are the same as the reds. The guys I load with say 2 at most loads on win HS and then let them fly. They shoot rounds of sporting clays every week and do it all with reloads so I have a lot of respect for them. They buy powder and lead by the trailer full and I never seem to see them having problems with their loads. Maybe overly conservative but their success says something.

They told me as a newbie to go Remington STS 1 piece hulls and avoid the HS or steel head winchester stuff. The Winchester of modern AA is not the Winchester AA of old.

[Signcutter]

Figures, thanks eveyone. Good info. Now I know. I had a sinking feeling the HS was not good.