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ineedmoney
December 27, 2009, 06:54 PM
it is going to be a while before i can buy another gun, but i want to get a cheap-$400 rifle that is capable of shooting 400 yards atleast with good groups. what would you guys suggest?

i could spend a little more if i had to

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Ohio Gun Guy
December 27, 2009, 08:14 PM
I'm in the market for what you are describing also. (ITs on the list :D)

In researching this the Mossber ATR & Savage bolt actions are VERY accurat for little money. They are no frills, but get the job done. Many of them are proven to be sub MOA (1" @ 100yds). The best part is (At least in my area) on can be had for 350-450 depending on model and scope it comes with.

Maverick223
December 27, 2009, 08:18 PM
If you are willing to spend a little more: Savage. If not: Stevens or Marlin, I would avoid Mossberg like the plague. I also would avoid one of the package deals as they generally come with a poor quality optic and cost a little more. This is especially true with the Savage because you also give up the Accutrigger on the combo model.

:)

ineedmoney
December 27, 2009, 08:42 PM
i had a savage .270 i wish i would of not traded. i traded it for an atv.
i might get another one, i could easily put 3 shots in a 1" area at 75 yards.
i kinda want to get a milsurp rifle but i dont know what kind would be a good one for the price or what to look for when i buy it

ineedmoney
December 27, 2009, 08:43 PM
If you are willing to spend a little more: Savage. If not: Stevens or Marlin, I would avoid Mossberg like the plague. I also would avoid one of the package deals as they generally come with a poor quality optic and cost a little more. This is especially true with the Savage because you also give up the Accutrigger on the combo model.

:)
whats wrong with the mossberg rifles. i seen one at wal-mart that caught my attention. i think it was a 30-06

bja5006
December 27, 2009, 09:05 PM
my Thompson/Center Venture shoots real purty for the money. it doesn't come in .308, but my .30-06 shot sub MOA.

range report:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=478716&highlight=t%2Fc+venture

jon_in_wv
December 27, 2009, 09:06 PM
I bought my Savage 7mm (pre-accutrigger) at the pawn shop for about $250. It shoots better than 1 MOA with ammo is likes. Even with ammo it doesn't like it hovers right around an inch. You can score a Savage very cheaply and they shoot like the dickens.

cbrgator
December 27, 2009, 09:17 PM
Stevens 200 hands down.

Maverick223
December 27, 2009, 09:46 PM
whats wrong with the mossberg rifles.The bolt is press-fit, and there has been some that have come "unglued" damaging the rifle as well as injuring the shooter. :what: Keep in mind I have not experienced/witnessed this, but it is a well-documented problem and I would rather not press my luck. Additionally the one that I shot didn't have a good fit, finish, nor a good feel to it IMO, but that is subjective (and what do you expect for the price?), the poor construction is what really dissuades me from the platform (and honestly I would not shot one again...once was enough for me).

:)

jbech123
December 28, 2009, 12:48 AM
at the lower end, the stevens 200 is really the one you want

Utah1
December 28, 2009, 02:21 AM
Doesn't Walmart sell the Savage package rifles for about $400?

What kinda of accuracy is acceptable? Just about any of the lower priced rifles will do at least 2 moa. Savages will do better than that all day long, I wouldn't hesistate to buy another. You might find a good deal on a used one as well.

Jim Watson
December 28, 2009, 09:28 AM
Thing about Savage-Stevens is that they are modular. When you get ready to spend some real money a Cheapmart Stevens could be upgraded almost without limits. The other economy sporters are serviceable hunting and plinking rifles but what you see is what you get, there is no aftermarket support and darned little from the company.

fireside44
December 28, 2009, 01:21 PM
I bought my Savage 7mm (pre-accutrigger) at the pawn shop for about $250. It shoots better than 1 MOA with ammo is likes.

Been looking for a 112 FVSS in 7mm mag for some time. Not a lot of guys seem to want to get rid of them. My favorite Savage, even though it doesn't have an accutrigger.

Thing about Savage-Stevens is that they are modular. When you get ready to spend some real money a Cheapmart Stevens could be upgraded almost without limits.

I was blown away when I found out what guys were doing with Stevens rifles. Couldn't believe it and didn't understand the guys when they said "Stevens". Now I understand.

Maverick223
December 28, 2009, 01:29 PM
I was blown away when I found out what guys were doing with Stevens rifles. Couldn't believe it and didn't understand the guys when they said "Stevens". Now I understand.I think the Marlin is a little better deal if left in the stock configuration...but Stevens is the way to go on a tight budget if you are willing to perform a little simple work and invest a little cash latter on. The Stevens is virtually the same as the Savage (only differences are the magazine, trigger, and stock), and that makes it one heck of a deal. The trigger and stock is the biggest issues with it (they are NOT bad, but can benefit from a little work), and all you really need to do is stone the trigger for a better pull, bed or replace the stock, then proceed to outshoot your buddy with the $1000 Remington 700. :D

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
December 28, 2009, 01:35 PM
T/C Venture would definitely make the short list.

Maverick223
December 28, 2009, 02:09 PM
T/C Venture would definitely make the short list.I have heard (no experience here) that their accuracy is not as great as expected (good hunting rifle accuracy, but nothing more), is that not the case in your experience?

:)

Mr. T
December 28, 2009, 02:59 PM
Hey what's wrong with Remington? I picked this one up for $300 that had Leupold mounts; it had a cheap Simmons scope on it and I upgraded it with a Nikon. It shoots MOA at 100 yards with off the shelf bargain ammo and sub MOA with certain premium Federal ammo.

:)

Sorry for the lack of a picture; for some reason it won't let me attach one because it says I've already attached this picture in this thread...yet it doesn't show up.

Mr. T
December 28, 2009, 03:32 PM
:There let's try this again. I figured out what was wrong. I just wanted to share what $300 got me. Yes it was used, but not much and it shoots MOA with off the shelf ammo.:)

Maverick223
December 28, 2009, 03:46 PM
Looks like you did well Mr. T, the older 700's are of much better quality than the new ones IMO, and you snagged it at a fair price to boot...then you proceeded to yank the crappy optic off the top (which may be why it was sold..."it just wouldn't shoot") and put something decent on it (which probably set you back almost as much as the rifle)...smart move.

:)

teddy52food
December 28, 2009, 10:59 PM
I think the weatherby vanguard is still $399.00 in several calibers.

mljdeckard
December 28, 2009, 11:03 PM
For $400, darn near anything would. What's your idea of a good group?

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