[greyhound]

I'm almost never home mornings during the week, so I always hear second hand the stories of the leftist bias of the "Early Show". Well, this morning I'm home, so I tune into "Today" and hear that J. Lynch will be on, and think "Well, this should be interesting".

First 5 minutes of the interview go okay, then Katie Couric refers to the Iraqis as the "so-called enemy".:fire:

Then, she asks how the "government manipulation of her rescue" made Ms. Lynch feel.

Lynch's response was that she "was a little uncomfortable at first but overall I'm OK with it".

Cut to incredulous look from Ms. Couric, who keeps pressing to get the all important sound byte bashing the US government.

Sweet Jeebus, folks, there really are media people out there who are determined to convince us that the concept of national identity is over, and that we should just join hands with the EU and bow to the almighty UN.

And I think it goes deeper than just hatred of President Bush. If a Democratic President was using US military strength over world opinion, they'd have the same reaction. (Of course I understand that's much less likely of a D than a R, but there are circumstances that could make it so.)

I think I'll go back to watching on the weekends, when they cover useful stuff, like movie reviews and cooking.

[Hkmp5sd]

Taped the show. Haven't watched it yet, or decided if I want to. Her book is pretty boring. You can knock it off in a couple of hours. She appears to be honest in that she doesn't take any credit as going down fighting and being Rambo. She was more or less just there. Hurt and scared while everyone else controlled the situation.

To all of those that knock her for the fame, which she didn't ask for, at least she was there and even after all she went through, she didn't start bad mouthing the war or Bush. Better'n many in this country today.

[cuchulainn]

Katie Couric annoys me. Always has, and I suppose always will. Her saccharine comes off as smarmy and self absorbed ... just a gut reaction.

[Bunkster]

Twin Sisters

kd couric
http://www.specialevents.buffalo.edu/images/katie.jpg


Katie Lange
http://www.canadiancelebs.com/images/kdlang.gif

[bogie]

Bunkster, it's time for a lesson...

First, it's K.D. Lang.

Second, they're not related.

Third, if you have a problem with gay folks, you'd best find a different board to troll on.

[dinosaur]

Bill O`Reilly had Diane Sawyer on last night. Sawyer interviewed Lynch also. I didn`t see that interview but Sawyer said she was impressed and that Lynch and family turned down more money.

AFA Couric goes, Fox and Friends is much more amusing.

[foghornl]

As for Couric and her ilk, for 1, I would really like to see them try living in some of those 3rd world countries, since they seem to think tha the USA stinks.

I would be willing to place a small wager that after a year, if they were even still able to make use of oxygen, their opinions would be at least somewhat muted.

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

[gun-fucious]

Katie will always have a special place in my dadaist nightmares for tainting my morning Wheaties with her in depth reports from her neither relm.
http://www.msnbc.com/d/v/250x190/tdy_couric_colon_020320.jpg
http://www.msnbc.com/news/378906.asp?cp1=1
http://www.msnbc.com/news/728289.asp

[Bunkster]

Oh, Gun-Fucious, you take us back to a better time: When the great KD Couric... that mountain of intellect and grace... presented to all the wonders of her south 40.

Why, what shall become of us when the great KD no longer blesses the masses with such poetic offerings?

We bow to the holy spirit of the grand KD's supreme sphincter.

Regards

[w4rma]

greyhound, are we "liberating" the Iraqis or are they the "enemy"? IMHO, these views are mutually exclusive.

[greyhound]

greyhound, are we liberating the Iraqis or are they the enemy?

In the context/time line of the Jessica Lynch capture and rescue , the soldiers who were fighting us definately were the enemy. To a soldier, anyone shooting at you is the "enemy" regardless of the politics behind the war.

There's still some "insurgents" and "occupation resisters" (to use the Reuters terms) that are the enemy.

The people of Iraq as a whole were never the enemy, as was probably noted in every official US communication about the war.

Actually, the way and tone she said "so called enemy" seemed to be implying that the whole war was wrong in the first place, in my opinion.
Guess I could have been a bit more clear than to just call Iraqis "the so called enemy.

[GySgt]

Originally posted by Bogie:
Third, if you have a problem with gay folks, you'd best find a different board to troll on.

What are you trying to say? Is this a pro gay forum? I don't recall seeing anything in the rules about having to be gay to post here. Are you a secret moderator, or someone who just has no sense of humor and gets his kicks by playing the PC card? I mean, lighten up man/woman/?

The guy was making a joke :rolleyes:

[Gordon Fink]

Actually, the way and tone she said “so called enemy” seemed to be implying that the whole war was wrong in the first place.…

This is exactly what she was doing. Many Americans think the war is/was wrong … or was at least initiated for the wrong reasons.

~G. Fink

[GySgt]

Originally posted by w4rma:
greyhound, are we "liberating" the Iraqis or are they the "enemy"? IMHO, these views are mutually exclusive.

Huh?
Richard, or do you go by your nickname? Anyway, this whole Bush bashing thing of yours is getting old.....perhaps you should try a new rant for awhile like the enviornmental wackos did. I expect them to drop the whole "Global warming" whining scheme any day and go back to the impending "Ice Age" crud they used to spew. Give being happy a chance, you might enjoy it.

God Bless and Semper Fi, GySgt

[Ed]

I don't so much have a problem with Jessica as I do with the fact that she got a bronze star. FOR WHAT???? Purple heart/yes POW medal/yes Bronze star???? I'd just really like to see the citation for that one. Sorry but that has been bothering me and her name was on this message.

[chaim]

GySgt, I think what he is trying to say is that anti-gay statements, even in jest aren't welcome here. Even those of us who have religious objections to homosexual behavior have (more or less) been able to remain respectful and refrain from such comments. We are here to discuss guns and related issues, anti-gay, racist, antisemetic, sexist, etc. comments aren't really called for or welcome here. Occasionally some get in under the table, but overt statements of those types will receive a very hostile reaction here (sometimes, even from people who might agree with you). The point is that we want to unite gunners, not scare away potential allies (you ever hear of the Pink Pistols). Keep the angry or hateful comments limited to anti-gunners and you'll be ok here.

[Lone_Gunman]

Chaim and others,

All Bunkster did was put up a picture of Katie Couric, and KD Lange.

There was no anti-gay commetary provided.

Any anti-gay message that someone takes from that is based on their own biased interpretation of the images posted.

Now, Bunkster may in fact be a troll for all i know.

Bu why is everyone so offended by the image of a gay woman?

[ReadyontheRight]

Give being happy a chance, you might enjoy it.

Sage advice!:)

[GySgt]

Lone Gunman,


Thank You :D

GySgt

[chaim]

Lone, I guess I should have put up the quote I was specifically responding to (as I usually do) to prevent a misunderstanding. I'm not making a judgemment as to whether what Bunkster did was anti-gay (I actually don't think so) or if Bogie overreacted (I can't get in his head so I really don't know- it may be reasonable to see Bunkster's post as anti-gay). I was simply responding to something specific that GySgt said, here is the quote my post was referring to:

What are you trying to say? Is this a pro gay forum? I don't recall seeing anything in the rules about having to be gay to post here. Are you a secret moderator, or someone who just has no sense of humor and gets his kicks by playing the PC card?

Oh, and the "even from people who agree with you" part should have read "even from people who agree with the post" or something to that effect because I do not want to imply that GySgt displayed any of the "isms" I listed (he certainly didn't).

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

[Smoke]

I didn't take the K.D Lange photo as a gay reference.

I took it as a liberal comparison.

Smoke

[greyhound]

This is exactly what she was doing. Many Americans think the war is/was wrong … or was at least initiated for the wrong reasons.

Obviously many do, in fact I didn't think it was the best use of our military.

I don't see these shows except on the weekend, when its obviously "news lite" with the aforementioned cooking and movie reviews.

So I was kinda surprise to see such an obvious slant (though I has been warned:) ) on a morning show. In an op/ed piece, yes.

I guess I'm being naive to expect anything else, but I always thought, "Good Morning America", "Today", etc to be fluff shows.

[10-Ring]

I haven't watched the news on NBC since Brokaw said that "We won Florida!" on the night of the election. They're all the same & still not worth wasting breath or band width over:cuss:

[gun-fucious]

so called "journalist"

[Hkmp5sd]

Purple heart/yes POW medal/yes Bronze star????

I believe she meets the criteria for the award. She was not awarded the "V" device.

Bronze Star Medal Criteria:

The Bronze Star Medal may be awarded to individuals who, while serving in any capacity with the Armed Forces of the United States in a combat theater, distinguish themselves by heroism, outstanding achievement, or by meritorious service not involving aerial flight.

Devices:

Additional awards are denoted by oak leaf clusters. The "V" device is worn when the Bronze Star Medal is awarded for heroism.

[bountyhunter]

I won't chime in on how wrecking your truck and getting yourself captured earns a bronze star these days, but it should be noted:

Ms Lynch was the first one (in the Walters interview) to point out how she was embarrassed by how the government was using her to "symbolize all this stuff" regarding the war in Iraq and the enemy. Katie Couric asked a question that Ms Lynch had already publicly answered with respect to the "government manipulation of her rescue".

FWIW: at least the kid who was the real hero that day finally got his name on TV last week. Shame of it is, I can't remember his name. I do remember he got a silver star.:confused:

[Hkmp5sd]

Shame of it is, I can't remember his name.
Pfc. Patrick Miller

BTW, she wasn't driving and it's hard not to surrender when you're unconscious and have a broken back and legs. :)

[Gordon Fink]

I haven’t watched the news on NBC since Brokaw said that “We won Florida!” on the night of the election.

I must have missed that one. :D

~G. Fink

[DRC]

Someone posts a picture of an ultra-liberal and a picture of a raging liberal and thinks it's a "gay bashing" post. ROFLMAO!!!!! :D :D :D

I guess it's become somewhat commonplace around here for people to scream "gay basher" at any sign of losing an arguement or debate. I get into discussions on another board where one lady in particular plays the race card as soon as she's losing just like a good little liberal and then she runs away, also like a good little liberal.

Anyway Perky Katie, is a nauseating liberal of monumental proportions, but I believe everyone is entitled to speak their mind even when they're completely wrong. However, when people are as wrong as Katie is most of the time I think someone, anyone, should be allowed to slap her with the big hand of truth and common courtesy. You don't have to like someone, agree with something or even give a rats behind about it all, but if you're gonna talk about it at least know something about the subject for God's sake.

Anyway that's my take on Katie (can you feel the love? ;)

DRC LOL!

[Ed]

Bronze Star Medal Criteria:

The Bronze Star Medal may be awarded to individuals who, while serving in any capacity with the Armed Forces of the United States in a combat theater, distinguish themselves by heroism, outstanding achievement, or by meritorious service not involving aerial flight.

Devices:

Additional awards are denoted by oak leaf clusters. The "V" device is worn when the Bronze Star Medal is awarded for heroism.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am in no way bashing Lynch, But I still feel that if she deserved a Bronze star we are not being told something. According to the criteria, she didn't get the V so it wasn't heroism, Outstanding Achievement? how? meritorious service? how. What she went through was terrible. She should get a POW medal and Purple heart. I just see that she got captured, and was rescued. The people I talk to in the military feel the same way. Again, nothing against her.

[Lone_Gunman]

What she went through was bad, but I guess no worse than what a lot of other POWs went through. I still cant figure out how what she did was outstanding or meritorious.

Her story was manipulated by the government, and she has been exploited.

Also, whats the deal with her frolicking nude in the barracks with other soldiers? Is there any credibility to that story? If its not true, why would someone start a rumor like that. There are apparently photos to prove it. If so, doesnt that deserve a little investigation?

[bountyhunter]

Her story was manipulated by the government, and she has been exploited.

That says it all 100%.

[Hkmp5sd]

MacArthur was awarded the Medal of Honor for his moronic strategy that cost the lives of thousands of US and filipino troops and sent thousands more to four years of hell as POWs in Japan. The military passes out medals for political reasons as well as military/heroic reasons.

[cordex]

Also, whats the deal with her frolicking nude in the barracks with other soldiers?
*gasp*
You mean soldiers have naughty parts too?!?
doesnt that deserve a little investigation?
Oh yeah, because if there's one thing we need to spend more taxpayer's money on, it's investigating reports of 20 year old girls exposing themselves. It is simply unheard of that a soldier might be naked in a barracks.
greyhound, are we "liberating" the Iraqis or are they the "enemy"? IMHO, these views are mutually exclusive.
If they shoot at us, they're an enemy.
If they welcome us, we're liberating them.

Saddam & Friends are the enemy. Achmed Bin Persecuted is being liberated.
Or so I like to think.

Or, put another way "Are Americans for the war or are they against it? IMHO, these views are mutually exclusive."
I haven't watched the news on NBC since Brokaw said that "We won Florida!" on the night of the election.
I looked and looked and the only site that I could find a reference to that was a second hand account on Free Republic. Anyone got a link?

[Lone_Gunman]

Cordex,

Is that type of conduct permitted in the military?

I was under the impression that behavior could be interpretted as embarassing to the Army is generally frowned upon.

But, hey, if the military has an "anything goes" policy in the barracks, then I got no problem with it.

[feedthehogs]

I can see the March issue of Playboy now,

"Women of the Military".

That bastian of humanity, Larry Flint claims to have pictures. Big Deal.
What gets me is his explaination that he won't show them out of respect for what Jessica has gone thru.

Well you scum bag, if you were so concerned why mention them at all.

[Coronach]

Got guns? Or civil liberty issues?

OT

Coronach