trouble with LNL
floydster
December 30, 2009, 07:37 PM
I am having one heck of a time keeping my dies from getting loose in my LNL with the LNL bushing's.
What a pain in the butt this press has been for me, from the priming system to the indexing and now the bushing's.
Thanks for input.
Floyd:cuss:
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ReloaderFred
December 30, 2009, 07:40 PM
Change the O rings and that should keep the bushings from coming loose.
Hope this helps.
Fred
floydster
December 30, 2009, 07:47 PM
Fred, do you go with a thicker O ring?
Thanks,Floyd
Randy1911
December 30, 2009, 08:22 PM
I had this problem a year or so ago. I called Hornady and they sent me new o-rings and that fixed my problem.
Walkalong
December 30, 2009, 09:41 PM
Nary a problem, yet.
Dodge DeBoulet
December 30, 2009, 10:06 PM
When you degreased the bushings, did you remove the O-rings? Hornady explicitly states in their instructional videos to remove them if you use brake cleaner or One-Shot to degrease . . . the degreaser will degrade them significantly.
jbrown13
December 30, 2009, 10:18 PM
Floyd, I had a similar problem when I first got the LnL AP. I solved the problem with a large wrench, which I use on the lock ring/jam nut of the die. By putting some torque on the ring/nut the "O"-ring compresses enough to keep the dies from working loose. I've had very good success with this method.
Jeff
mongoose33
December 30, 2009, 10:33 PM
What JBrown said. I do the same thing, no problems.
Randy1911
December 30, 2009, 11:33 PM
I do this also with the sizer die, it gets the most stress. The wrench I use is a Craftman 1-1/8". It fits the Hornady lock rings perfect, also Lee die lock rings.
RUDY850
December 31, 2009, 02:07 AM
I have used thread tape around the lugs to keep them from coming loose
Wilburt
December 31, 2009, 07:18 AM
I solved the problem with a large wrench, which I use on the lock ring/jam nut of the die. By putting some torque on the ring/nut the "O"-ring compresses enough to keep the dies from working loose. I've had very good success with this method.
+1, No problems if done right.
floydster
December 31, 2009, 11:13 AM
Guys, I'm not talking about the die coming loose in the bushing, I'm talking about the bushing coming loose in the press.
tommysempra
December 31, 2009, 11:27 AM
ive seen pipe dope tape to new o-rings in previous replies to this issue. mine havent done it yet, but that doesn't mean they wont :)
Wilburt
December 31, 2009, 12:33 PM
Guys, I'm not talking about the die coming loose in the bushing, I'm talking about the bushing coming loose in the press.
Right. That's what we are talking about as well. By applying torque to the locking ring on the die, it compresses the bushing o-ring towards the press. Usually the sizer die is the worst followed by the powder drop.
floydster
December 31, 2009, 01:19 PM
:DThanks guys, I tried the torque on the die locking ring and it works great.
Thanks again for your help, never too old to learn!!!
45ACPUSER
December 31, 2009, 09:43 PM
Should have drank the blue kool aid....
Walkalong
January 1, 2010, 10:56 AM
Mine are always just finger tight, and have not worked loose. Something to watch I guess.
floydster
January 1, 2010, 03:59 PM
I threw up once drinking too much blue koolaid.:D
Walkalong
January 1, 2010, 05:31 PM
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x37/Walkalong/LOLhysterical.gif
In all fairness though, if you drink too much of any color, it can get you in trouble. :D
floydster
January 1, 2010, 07:48 PM
Walkalong,
So very true--on another vote, how is retirement---how bout coming over and we'll chew the fat, hash over reloading, women and the like.:D
Walkalong
January 1, 2010, 08:27 PM
Sounds fun, but Mn is cold..........:D
ole farmerbuck
January 1, 2010, 08:32 PM
I called Hornady and talked to Todd. He sent me a bunch of thin spacers to go between the bushing and o-ring. Works great and you will NOT have to worry about them coming loose, not even the powder measurer!
Walkalong
January 1, 2010, 09:16 PM
Excellent. That has to be better than torquing the bushings in the press and possibly damaging things, even if it takes a while.
Samgotit
January 1, 2010, 10:11 PM
I called Hornady and talked to Todd. He sent me a bunch of thin spacers to go between the bushing and o-ring. Works great and you will NOT have to worry about them coming loose, not even the powder measurer!
Excellent. It is the measurer that has given me the most problems with backing out.
ole farmerbuck
January 2, 2010, 05:27 AM
Excellent. It is the measurer that has given me the most problems with backing out.
Before i called them i used a rubber band. I ran it from the measurer to the back of the press. There is a hole back there where i stuck in a sheet metal screw and wrapped the band around it. The band doesnt need to be real tight, just steady pressure. I'll get a pic today for those who dont want the shims. Works great.
tony433
January 2, 2010, 06:39 AM
when mine started to do the same thing I just cut a small piece of cadrboard from an old ammo box and put a piece on each side and snugged it down with a wrench holds nice and tight just my .02
ole farmerbuck
January 2, 2010, 06:41 AM
I did that too but trust me, they wont be loose with the free shims.
ole farmerbuck
January 2, 2010, 10:40 AM
Here's how i did the rubber band before the shims. (also a pic of the $1.47 light to see in the cases better)
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88/farmerbuck/rubberband.jpg
Walkalong
January 2, 2010, 10:42 AM
Love the rubber band. Simple and affective. Good old American ingenuity. :)
Sounds like the shims work great.
ole farmerbuck
January 2, 2010, 10:44 AM
Yea, i should have taken a pic of one. They are split and over lap some to get them on the bushings.
floydster
January 2, 2010, 12:08 PM
ofb,
I am going to call Hornady and get the shims, thanks for the tip.
Floyd:)
ole farmerbuck
January 2, 2010, 12:49 PM
No problem. I cant turn my bushings all the way, they're too tight but i'm sure they will loosen in time.
ole farmerbuck
January 2, 2010, 12:50 PM
I looked at one and they DONT overlap like i said but they are split.
Seedtick
January 2, 2010, 10:55 PM
... i used a rubber band.
I use to run some quarter million dollar machines, a couple were brand spanking new, that wouldn't run without a couple of rubber bands. :rolleyes:
But our shop towels came bundled with some heavy duty rubber bands that worked great so the supply was endless.
ST
:)
ole farmerbuck
January 3, 2010, 06:09 AM
I use to run some quarter million dollar machines, a couple were brand spanking new, that wouldn't run without a couple of rubber bands. :rolleyes:
But our shop towels came bundled with some heavy duty rubber bands that worked great so the supply was endless.
ST
:)
As of lastnight, rubber bands are now helping my RCBS power trimmer. Sure saves time.
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