The best "value" in a .22 rifle?


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UpTheIrons
December 31, 2009, 11:33 PM
I've perused some threads and used the search function, but I'm just as confused as ever.

What is a good .22 rifle that you would say is a "best buy" for me? a $250 Henry lever? A $130 Marlin semi? Remmy 597? Mossy 702? Ruger 10/22? Something else entirely? What have I missed?

I'm looking for a squirrel gun, primarily, but it will also see heavy plinking use, and likely sporadic turtle duty. I grew up on tube-fed semis and lever guns, but I'm leaning toward something detachable-magazine fed for ease in reloading. I'm looking for long life and something my 7 year old can grow into without waiting too long to grow into it.

I've got an ancient (25 year old) Mossy 144 LSB, which I used in 4-H shooting sports, and it is NOT a field gun. The barrel alone weighs 9 or so pounds, so anything lighter will be an improvement.

What say ye? :confused:

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enderwig
December 31, 2009, 11:36 PM
For me, if you want to spend more, go with the henry, if not, go with the marlin 60. I pick up marlin 60's at pawn shops for $50 all the time, cant go wrong with a $50 plinker :)

ArmedBear
December 31, 2009, 11:48 PM
Marlin 60 is the best value in an out-of-the-box .22 rifle today, IMO.

When they're on sale, you can pick up a synthetic Marlin 795 (detachable mag version of the Model 60) for abot 120 bucks. It's hard to beat that, given Marlin's accuracy.

I don't think the 10/22 is a good value. It's a good foundation for customizing (read spending a lot of money on a .22).

The Henry is a lot of fun, though it probably won't shoot any straighter than a Marlin 60. If you like lever guns, get one. It's not suitable for a scope IMO. The stock drop is WAY too much. The Marlins have much higher combs, and work well with scopes.

rogertc1
December 31, 2009, 11:51 PM
marlin 60

MistWolf
December 31, 2009, 11:59 PM
The Henry I got for my son has the higher style comb. However, I don't think scopes belong on traditional lever actions.

An older 10/22 would be a good choice. It seems ones manufactured more recently are leaving folks dissatisfied. Marlin semi-autos are supposed to be good but I can't warm up to them. They look & feel cheap to me. If you want something for your 7 year old, you could shop around for a Remington 510 single shot bolt action. It's easy to operate, cocks on opening and has a thumb safety, and it's simple to have a gunsmith shorten and re-crown the barrel and re-dovetail it for a front sight. Shorten the stock a bit too. Then when your child gets older, it'll be easy enough to replace the stock. 510s are accurate and reasonably priced

Wingnut13
January 1, 2010, 12:00 AM
I have a 10/22 but once I bought the henry the ruger has collected dust. It's a blast, I do have a couple of other bolt actions that get some use as well.

viking499
January 1, 2010, 12:16 AM
For under $250, Marlin 60 for a semi or a CZ(used of course) for a bolt.

Geno
January 1, 2010, 12:22 AM
The Savage Mark II (detachable mag) is about as accurate a bolt rifle as you can find for less than $200.00, and I mean accurate. Using Rem Thunderbolts, I have been able to print 10 shots into 1.75 inch groups at 100 yards off the bench, using a 14X scope. It's light and compact enough for kids, and big enough for adults. Link to Savage Mark II: http://savagearms.com/firearms/models/

If you are looking for an ultra accurate autoloader, look to the T/C Arms' R55 classic (also a detachable mag). It's all steel, threaded barrel and has a match grade chamber. It's light and compact enough for kids, and big enough for adults. Link to TC's Rimfire rifles: http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/rimfireRifles.php

There are several fantastic rifles on the market. I suggest going to the gun store and seeing what "feels" best in your hands. If it isn't comfortable to shoulder, it isn't going to work for you regardless the price.

Geno

FenderTK421
January 1, 2010, 12:26 AM
Ruger 10/22 is absolutely my favorite.

Wirenut1212
January 1, 2010, 12:29 AM
If you can find one in a pawn shop I love my Nylon 66 semi auto, I saw a lever action once in a shop in Memphis didn't get I am still kicking myself. My semi has no telling how many rounds threw it would be in the 1000's never fails even on popcorn farts it still cycles and loads the next one. My only complaint and It doesn't bother me really is that a scope will not stay zeroed I read why once but I don't remember the reason. I can gurantee it is a squirrel's worst nightmare!!!

Arkansas Paul
January 1, 2010, 02:09 AM
I love my Marlin 60 but if you want to spend a little more, you sure can't go wrong with a 10/22 Ruger. The Ruger will give you the detachable magazine too.

dak0ta
January 1, 2010, 02:38 AM
Marlin 925 22lr bolt action rifle with 7 round clip.

Runningman
January 1, 2010, 02:40 AM
You might check out the CZ 452 Trainer. They shoot very well right out of the box. Have good iron sights if you don't want to use a scope. They come with a 5 round magazine. But you can buy 10 rounders also.

hub
January 1, 2010, 02:41 AM
IMO it's hard to beat a Marlin 60 for a good .22lr. I've have several and they are all great. I do want a Henry .22 also just because they are a blast to shoot.

Bobarino
January 1, 2010, 04:05 AM
semi-auto = marlin 60.

bolt action = marlin 981T

not that i'm biased or anything.... :) i have both and they are both outstanding shooters.

for a lever action, i just LOVE the Browning Bl-22. it was my first gun and the most accurate .22 i ever owned.

Bobby

Daizee
January 1, 2010, 04:14 AM
If we're talking about NEW guns: CZ 452 Lux
Henry blued.

those are best value for me.
I've shot the henry extensively and think highly of it for the money (I don't hav one).
I actually have the CZ, and LOVE it. Magic wand, detachable mag, adjustable trigger, stellar iron sights.

-Daizee

CajunBass
January 1, 2010, 05:50 AM
I'm sure there are still junk 22's out there, but don't recall any off the top of my head so my answer is "just about any of them." Get the one you like and can best afford and you'll probably be happy with it.

Personally I like the 10/22 especially the DSP version. The Remington 597 I've got runs fine also. I don't own them but others like the Marlin 60 and the Henry but I don't have any experience with them. I certainly wouldn't hesitate to buy one though.

There are usually dozens of used 22's in most every big gun shop. A lot of them are "house brands", Sears, Revelation, J.C. Higgins and such. Bolt actions and semi's mostly. They're usually pretty inexpensive and good bargans. If there is anything wrong with them, it's usually that they are dirty and need a good cleaning. You can "fix" most of them with a can of Gunscrubber and some gun oil. I always head straight to that rack when I go to my favorite gun shop.

Good luck and have fun. The search is half that fun. :D

content
January 1, 2010, 06:22 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // I prefer the handling of the Marlin 795

I bought a 795 on sale for $119.00 and had a $10.00 off coupon to boot.

With the synthetic stock it is very light weight, it also comes with a 10 round mag. Great for plinking, hunting and teaching.

On the shoulder stock, I attached a pouch holding four additional mags. and a film canister containing 70 mixed rounds (including shot shells). I have different type rounds in each mag. and can easily switch from solids to hollow points.

On the down side, the 18" barrel is a little short and the bolt handle jiggles. (is loose but not problem)

Calibre44
January 1, 2010, 07:23 AM
Well for ‘out of the box accuracy’, solid build quality, longevity, value for money and good looks I’d recommend a CZ452 – It’ll ‘tick all of your boxes’ and comes with either a 5 or 10 capacity removable mag.

Here’s mine:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/woodsy_2008/Guns/misc022.jpg

Geno
January 1, 2010, 08:22 AM
If you get feeling like having a really fun and distinguished-looking 22, you can look to the Mark II TRR. I should have posted that link specifically earlier. Here you go:

http://savagearms.com/images/firearms/finder/ginormous/markiitrr.png

This is how it looks without the tactical rail:

http://savagearms.com/images/firearms/finder/ginormous/markiitr.png

That's what I call a genuine critter-gitter! :D

Geno

sheepdog
January 1, 2010, 08:38 AM
...a Marlin 39A or Mountie(used) lever action lets you shoot s,l,lr....IMO the best rifles made for .22 allaround use...my favorite is the Mountie...Henry has some but don't know if they are s, l, and lr or not...
...my favorite of all is the Ruger 10/22...older models...metal not plastic
...the Marlin Model 60 is the least expensive tack-driver I know about...lr only...

Ohio Gun Guy
January 1, 2010, 08:51 AM
My humble opinion....all guns I have experience with.

1. Ruger 10/22
Not as accurate as the savage .22 rifles I have owned (IMO) but not bad by any measure. Lots of parts and spare magazines available. Good looking, well built. The best / better all around .22 rifle.
Price 200-225 (Last time I looked)

2. Savage Model 64 (Semi Auto)
The most accurate .22 I have ever owned. I had one in the 80-90s and literally shot thousands and thousands of rounds through it. It was extremely accurate and FUN!
Price 150-175 with a wood stock (120 in synthetic)

3. Savage MkII (Bolt Action)
The most accurate .22 under 200; which competes with guns that cost 2x - 3x as much. You have to start getting into the high end .22 rifles before you get a better shooting .22 bolt action (IMO).
Price: 125 +/- (at wally world)

4. To be fair, I have no experience with the Marlin, mossberg, CZ or remington .22 rifles...... Mine have all been Savage or Ruger. CZ makes some beautiful rifles. What do those cost?

oldfool
January 1, 2010, 08:55 AM
http://www.budsgunshop.com
search rifle & caliber = 22LR, models from $114 to $1800, just for a quickie "price survey"... you will catch on fast

for specific purposes you defined, IMO Marlin model 60 is "best value"
if do not like tube fed, Marlin 795 clip fed or Savage 64, etc.
(or any model Marlin of whatever action you prefer for that matter)
lots to pick from under $200

lots and lots of others far pricier, any/all actions to suit different purposes and tastes, they all good
(me, I like Brownings, own four, all action types, but at 3X to 4X prices of above examples, I don't even own a Marlin rimfire, just respect them a lot)I
"best value lever action would be the baseline Henry, yes

PS
correction, I do own a Marlin, a Papoose bought NIB back when it was a "new thing"
and I think Savages are always great shooters also (own one in 17HMR)
CZs are also great, but don't expect to find any (new or used) for $200, people who have 'em don't sell 'em off
I like 'em all !
(except Ruger 10/22s... people who do own them either love or hate them, not much middle ground in that club)
and if $1800 sounds pricey for a 22, Google "BR50" sometime, and prepare to be shocked !

David Sours
January 1, 2010, 09:19 AM
Savage MK II, I have one and it is very accurate. Incredible for the money.

David

Leaky Waders
January 1, 2010, 09:33 AM
I think the best value gun is the model 39a - it's a classic piece of americana that can be handed down to your 7 year old's kids when the time comes.

I like the winchester model 9422 too, but they aren't produced anymore.

The marlin 60 is probably the best for a dollar vesus accuracy.

22's I wish I had never bought are the 10/22 and a taurus revolver.

skoro
January 1, 2010, 12:49 PM
"Best" I've found:

Savage MkII BV

I mounted a Weaver RV-7 scope and it's a keeper. Love that Accu-trigger.

http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/MARKIIBV.jpg

Quoheleth
January 1, 2010, 03:50 PM
For an all-around plinker and tree rat gun, I think a Marlin with a decent 4x scope is HARD to beat. Take your pick: the tube-fed or mag-fed, the semi or the bolt gun. For +/- $150, and $50 for a decent scope (Bushnell, maybe), you'll have a 100-yard soda killing machine.

I have an OLD Marlin, re-labeled as Western Auto pre-serial number, and it'll flat-out shoot. I have no idea how many rounds it had pushed through it before I got it at a farm auction 20 years ago. Back in the day, I could hit soda cans at 110+ yards. Maybe not every shot, but regularly enough that it wasn't an accident.

If you want a fun plinker for your kids, look at the Browning BL-22. It's a shorter gun, with a very short throw and for a kid, it's a great shooter. It carries easy. My one and only caveat for a young shooter is it's lack of a safety or hammer block. It'll shoot with my Marlin, and the Browning is only irons.

If you want to drop a little more coin, my Ruger 77/22 has been very nice. It might not be CZ accurate, but it's as accurate as I am.

Q

rangerruck
January 1, 2010, 03:57 PM
marlin mod 60, or 795. the 795's are on sale right now at Academy's, and with the 20 dollar mail in rebate you can get off the internet, you can get one for about 80 plus bucks--- that is for a new 22 rifle--- chances are you will never see a new 22 for under 100 bucks again.

And as you all know, for a semi auto, nothing beats the reliability or accuracy of the marlins, unless you just wanna go really hi end, and spend a ton of money.

mod 60's are 150 or less, for new, and in pawn shops or gunshops, they are 60 to 90 bucks used.

Rapier
January 1, 2010, 04:13 PM
Well, I'd say the inexpensive-without-being-cheap option in clearly the Model 60, although I don't personally own one. Might rectify that, but I don't know.

On the other hand, there's the 10/22, which is for .22's what the AR is for semi-auto rifles. Sure, you can spend mucho $$$$ tricking it out, or you can do what I'm doing and simply drop a set of Tech-Sights on it, buy a half-dozen or so Butler Creek mags and call it good.

My personal favorite so far, though, is my Mossberg 351CB, which should still have a thread up here about it. :D It's a classy little rifle, and accurate to boot. Enough so that I'm stocking up on Wolf Match ammo for this spring, so I can really see what she'll do. Usually prints 1.5" groups at 50 yards, which I'm pretty happy with, especially out of a 40-ish year old rifle that didn't look like it'd ever been cleaned before I owned it. :cuss:

If you wanted to get something a little different, though, you could get a Henry Pump .22lr, or even better, an old Winny M1890 in .22lr. You'll pay for the Winny, and it might need re-lined/restored, but they're just about the most awesome thing I've ever laid hands upon. The Henry would be a nice runner up, if you don't like top ejectors or don't want to spend the $$$ on the Winchester.

TCB in TN
January 1, 2010, 06:59 PM
Marlin 60 is IMHO the best bang for your buck!

UpTheIrons
January 1, 2010, 08:07 PM
Thanks for all the insight and suggestions!

I'm not looking to accessorize anything, so the 10/22 is at the bottom of the list right now, even though I've wanted one off and on for several years. All I want to put on it is a scope and maybe a sling.

Best accuracy for the dollar in a field gun is #1 for me, so it may be down to the Marlin 60 (or maybe 795) - don't know if I can justify $300+ for a squirrel gun right now.

But I've made a list, since - like Lay's tater chips - you can't have just one! Savage, CZ, Marlin 39... oh, so many!

Dokkalfar
January 1, 2010, 10:52 PM
hmm... well I've got a Savage Model 64 and a Remington 597, both semi-autos. The Savage is pretty nice, rather accurate and comes with a 3x20 scope. Only issue I've had with it is you need to make sure you push the magazine all the way in. And it only holds 7 rounds, and is some weird keyhole shape and I can't find a larger sized one online anywhere. But its a pretty decent rifle.

I havent gotten to play with the Remington too much (just bought a small scope for it though) Though I took my mom to the range last week (her first time aside from a bit with dad's 12ga and llittle bro's BB gun) and she was able to get around a 6-7in grouping with 100 or so rounds :p However, the 30-rd mags you can buy apparently jammed on her a couple times but the stock 10rd one was fine. Though again, I havent gotten to try it out much.

Really though, unless you are gonna do some serious shooting, most .22s you can buy at a gun store or wally world should work fine for you. :)

CZguy
January 2, 2010, 12:00 AM
But I've made a list, since - like Lay's tater chips - you can't have just one! Savage, CZ, Marlin 39... oh, so many!

I sure agree with that. I have twelve .22s and have never really found one that I didn't like something about.

A couple of my favorites (that I didn't see posted above) are the Remington 527 pump action and a Winchester 69a bolt action.

But for someone who wants the best value for the dollar................I don't think you could beat a Marlin model 60.

Stainlessbutcher
January 2, 2010, 12:03 AM
Man, I grew up with a very old Remington .22 semi that was tube fed. Had a good wooden stock, seems to me it was quite long, but I was young. The back of the receiver looked like a stepped cone pointing towards the back. I wish I knew the model number and I also wish I still had it. It was a nail driver at 75 yards using iron sites.

Butch.

WhoKnowsWho
January 2, 2010, 01:02 AM
Marlin 60 + Spee-D-Loader (http://www.cabelas.com/p-0012788222343a.shtml) easy and quick reloads!

benzy2
January 2, 2010, 02:51 AM
I love my CZs. To be honest they are my best bang for the buck rifle. The only real problem with them compared to the Savage/Marlin options is that they aren't much, if any more accurate. What they have is in build quality, in my case wood, and the trigger.

My marlin was ok stock. I felt the T900 trigger was about as bad as it gets and replaced it with a rifle basix trigger. That and bedding made the thing a real shooter. My Savage, out of the box shot well. The trigger adjusted down is good. It is great for a hunting rifle trigger, good for a casual paper punching rifle, but far too heavy for a dedicated target rifle. Both of these rifles shoot well within my expectations of what a rifle in their price range should be capable of producing. I just prefer the CZs for mainly opinion based reasons. For the dollar though the Savage/Marlin line are very tough to beat.

Best bang for the buck is tough to generalize. I feel the CZ is as close to an Anschutz as I can get for under $500. That to me makes it a great bang for my buck. A used Marlin Model 60 for the $50 claimed available at pawn shops is an amazing bang for your buck. Group size per dollar spent is going to be hard to beat against a $50 rifle. Today most rimfires from respectable companies are good shooters. As long as you don't buy something abused you are probably going to do alright.

If I were to pick though I would put the Marlin model 60 as the best bang for your buck semi auto. I'm not too familiar with the detachable magazine models from Marlin or Savage to know how they compare to the Ruger 10/22 but honestly the 10/22 is an average rifle, not bad but nothing spectacular. For bolt rifles I think the Savage line has the slight edge for the dollar. I really like the Accutrigger compared to Marlins T900. The Ruger bolt option prices itself out of the market in my opinion. The CZ is nice but it is in a category different than what I see you looking for. In the lever market it is hard to beat the Henry. They tend to shoot well and are priced right. That said the Marlin 39A is an amazing rifle, but much like the CZ is in the bolt action line, I think the 39A is in a different category than you are looking.

CajunBass
January 2, 2010, 06:19 AM
I'm not looking to accessorize anything, so the 10/22 is at the bottom of the list right now, even though I've wanted one off and on for several years. All I want to put on it is a scope and maybe a sling.

Sort of like these?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/001-2.jpg

Just showing off a bit. Personally I've never had a problem with any of them. There may be more accurate rifles out there, but they've always been "good enough" for me for plinking and squirrel hunting and such. Plus I think they have classic good looks that just can't be beat. Trim lines, flush fit magazines, decent checkering (for a $200.00 rifle), light weight. What's not to like. :D

RockyMtnTactical
January 2, 2010, 06:24 AM
10/22

scythefwd
January 2, 2010, 06:37 AM
a set of weights. Turn that 144lsb into a field gun :) I'd look at the savages.

Daveboone
January 2, 2010, 08:28 AM
Remember the Henry and Marlin model 39 are designed along the classic saddle gun design. I love them, but they are born to be open sighted. You can scope them, but it takes away from their carrying and shooting balance., and makes em ugly.
The Marlin model 60 is bomb proof, accurate and inexpensive. The Savage bolt is equally accurate (from my guns), inexpensive, and quicker to reload/ unload. If kids may shoot it, it is a better learning gun for safety reasons. The Ruger is great for carrying, accurate, and has a zillion upgrade potentials, which make it fun. Trigger sucks, though. It is still one of my favorites in its basic form because of its compactness. for 50.00 or so you can get a more full size synthetic stock.

nathan
January 2, 2010, 09:33 AM
Id go with my Marlin 880 SQ , got it from Walmart 11 yrs ago. I ve killed many birds , bunnies , little critters with in the past. Crows were not safe even at 75 yds.

HGUNHNTR
January 2, 2010, 09:37 AM
Remember, price doesn't reflect value--Quality does.

I beleive the CZ 452 with iron sights is the best value out there right now. It looks like several others feel the same way.

Handgunner
January 2, 2010, 11:49 AM
I thought price AND quality went hand in hand when value was concerned.

scythefwd
January 2, 2010, 12:02 PM
handgunner, I don't think that is what hgunhntr is saying. A high priced arm won't be a good value, so the price doesn't reflect the value of a gun. Example - a 900 dollar high point 9mm. On the other hand, a cheap gun may not be a value either. Example - anything jennings. Then there are the exceptions to the rules, where a great gun can be had cheaply. Example - Stevens 200.

Good price and quality must both be there for value, but one or the other isn't a foolproof indicator of value (a 5k ar would be a good gun at a bad price). That is what I think he is saying.

Handgunner
January 2, 2010, 12:18 PM
Ahhh, gotcha. ;)

Good price and quality must both be there for value, but one or the other isn't a foolproof indicator of value (a 5k ar would be a good gun at a bad price).

Agreed 100%

UpTheIrons
January 5, 2010, 05:26 PM
Well, the votes are in. Not really, I didn't count 'em! :neener:

I'm going with a Marlin Model 60 this time around. As time passes and cash starts to build, I'll probably add a few others that have been suggested here, but the Marlin wins this round. Pics and a range report will follow after it arrives.

Thanks again for helping me think out loud and for steering the discussion in all the right directions.

Pony Express
January 5, 2010, 05:36 PM
delete

devildog32713
January 5, 2010, 06:10 PM
"Pray for Obama Psalms 109:8"
WOOOW, hysterical signature, everyone get out your Bibles, and look up that verse, im laughing uncontrollably! and I would look into a Mossberg, Mossbergs for longetivity and value.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
January 5, 2010, 06:15 PM
IMO, it's the CZ 452 "Scout" - add a slip-on recoil pad to turn it into an adult sized rifle. Better rifle than the 512 Trainer for the same price.

But the Marlin semis, Savage semis, Marlin turnbolts, Savage turnbolts, and other CZs are ALL up there closely competing at the top.

UpTheIrons
March 12, 2010, 10:11 AM
I sarted this thread looking for a .22 rifle that would get busy out of the box and not need any "foolin' with" to get it killing squirrels. I settled on the Marlin Model 60 (with synthetic stock) and have been very happy so far. It balances well, is light, and easy to get shooting.

I'm about 500 rounds in and still haven't had one FTF, FTE or misfeed. Guess I've gotten some pretty decent boxes of ammo so far.

Here are some targets from ammo testing and sighting in. I need a real rest, as these were at 20 yards without an adequate rest. I'll reduplicate this when I get a decent one to see if there is any change (especially tightening of the groups). Needless to say, I was somewhat surprised at the results. The white squares are actually 15/16", while the 'boxes' are advertised as being 1". The red circles are 3/4" in diameter. The black bull on the last picture is also 3/4", and this is what the gun did after I adjusted the scope (Bushnell 3-9x32).

The first three targets are 15 shot strings, the last one is 5. Since you should shoot what your gun likes, it looks like it is Winchester Xpert, unless something else comes along that's better, or the groups improve on a decant rest.

The Federal 550 round High-velocity hollow points are not going intot he rotation any time soon if this is what they continue to do:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4426642574_a55cd671c7.jpg


The CCI Mini-Mags left a bigger pattern than I expected, too:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4425879137_b7eeabc285.jpg


The Winchester Xpert high-velocity hollow points were the surprise performers on the day:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4425879263_77fb5c447c.jpg


After I adjusted to the left, this 5 round string of Winchester Xpert should be able to take down any vicious tree rat that dares to come right at me:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4425879417_7ab4ffa3c7.jpg

Armchair Bronco
March 12, 2010, 10:21 AM
+1 for the CZ 452's

Another one to consider is the CZ 452 Scout. This is a kid's sized .22LR with a 16" barrel and a 12" LOP. I shoot it w/ my boys. They use the stock as-is. When I shoot, I just strap on a Pachmeyer leather recoil pad filled out with some rigid foam to take the LOP out to 14" for me.

It's a VERY accurate little gun and if you're looking for something that can double as a compact Ranger or Camp type gun, it's perfect even if you don't have kids. (It comes with a magazine rack that turns the gun into a single shot rifle. You can buy a separate iron 5-round magazine online (I think they also sell 10-rounders for the 452 series).

http://personalsecurityzone.com/images/CZ45202050lg.jpg

EDIT: I just re-read the original post, and I see that you want to do plinking w/ your 7-year-old son. In that case, the CZ 452 Scout would be the PERFECT gun for you and him.

Just get a brown leather Pachmeyer recoil pad & track down some rigid foam cut just a bit bigger than the butt stock. Then both of you can share the same gun. My boys and I have competitions using the same gun all the time (I still win all of 'em!). It's not the same if Dad is using a different gun.

http://www.griffinhowe.com/store/dbimages/PAD106_s.jpg

Bill B.
March 12, 2010, 10:28 AM
The Winchester Xpert high-velocity hollow points were the surprise performers on the day:

The Xpert's I have been able to buy had similar results from a CZ, a Annie & a old Mossy. The Winchester 333's which look the same with copper wash don't shoot as well as the Xpert's from my .22's. Naturally with .22's the next lot# may be different .............good shooting by the way!

JTH
March 12, 2010, 10:38 AM
Probably not the answer you're looking for but my vintage bolt action Winchester model 72 is dead on accurate. It has a tube fed magazine and shoots shorts, longs and LRs. I imagine this rifle is approaching 75 years old because I recieved it as a XMAS present from parents when I was 13 and I'm now 56 and it was used when I received it. It's probably the most valuable rifle out of my SKS, AK47 and Remington 870 police issue. I'd like a good .22 pistol though.

GunTech
March 12, 2010, 12:04 PM
While I am a CZ-bolt fan, I'd have to say the Ruger 10/22 is the best choice simply because it is ubiquitous, reliable, relatively inexpensive and has more aftermarket accessories than all other rimfire rifles put together. It's one of the few rifles where you can swap out a barrel at home (with nothing more than an Allen wrench). It's easy to build exactly the rifle you want, not what someone at the factory decided you should have.

It's the lego of rimfires.

Water-Man
March 12, 2010, 12:48 PM
Marlin 60

Motodeficient
March 12, 2010, 01:15 PM
I wish I could find a .22lr used for $50 at a local gun shop. Haven't seen one yet. Would like a bolt action .22lr to go with my 10/22. Maybe I will look around a bit this weekend.

glazer1972
March 12, 2010, 03:25 PM
The best deal in a .22 is the Walmart Special 10/22 w/ the 22" bbl. The one on the far left in CajunBass pic.

Hardwoodjdc
March 12, 2010, 07:47 PM
I have had 3 Ruger 10/22s and now have none and it is going to stay that way. Anything that I buy that has that many aftermarket parts available should tell you something! I am a slow learner I guess. The Cz 452 is a great rifle for a bolt and I also think quite highly of the Henry for a lever. I have 4 cz 452s and 2 Winchester 9422s as well as a Marlin 39a. All are good guns, it just boils down to your price range and intended useage. No sense spending the money for a benchrest gun if you just want to shoot tin cans. My .02 worth. Enjoy the rimfire madness!

don
March 12, 2010, 10:58 PM
Motodeficient, if you want to go cheap, I can recommend the Mossburg 802 Plinkster. It is a bolt action with a 10 round magazine. It is accurate and ~$100. The only gripe I have with it is that the sights really suck. Since I scoped it, that is not important to me.

FloridaConfederate
March 13, 2010, 08:49 AM
Got a couple Marlin Model 60 I like a lot. Also a Remington Scoremaster 511 bolt action and it is good also. Found mine by word of mouth.

jpwilly
March 13, 2010, 01:13 PM
Pray for Obama! Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few; And let another take his office.

Ha ha

stevegc
March 13, 2010, 06:26 PM
I like my Marlin 60

Ignition Override
March 14, 2010, 12:55 AM
enderwig:

I've never noticed such low prices at pawn shops.
Just by chance, have you ever seen the old Romanian .22 training rifles in pawn shops?

A buddy bought one here at the gun show in January from a 'walk-in'. The buddy had trained with them in the East German Army.

Kentucky_Rifleman
March 14, 2010, 01:46 AM
+1 for the Thompson Center .22 Classic auto. It's a little pricier than most, but after shooting mine, I traded the other 4 .22 rifles I owned. My only other .22 long arm is a Remington 511 Scoremaster, also a great rifle.

KR

22-rimfire
March 14, 2010, 05:51 AM
Best bang for the buck is the Marlin Model 60. Since you don't want a tubular magazine, go with the detachable box mag version, the M795.

I think the Ruger 10/22 is not a bad value. They aren't highly accurate, but are adequate for hunting in most cases and they are a blast to plink with. I'm not totally fond of the rotary magazine, but they function reliably and the larger capacity after market magazines are available for plinking fun.

chad1043
March 14, 2010, 11:47 AM
My vote after a lot of reading was the 981T. Takes all the .22 except 22 mag. Great shooter out of the box.

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