NH: Open Holster Protest: State Building - Jan 6th 9am


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zombienerd
January 2, 2010, 10:02 AM
As some may know, and many may not, the House and Senate joint Facilities committee Banned "dangerous weapons" from the State house and surrounding buildings. Here's some background.

A couple of days before Christmas of 2009, the House and Senate joint Facilities committee met to take care of the usual business of overseeing the State House Complex. The agenda was set and nothing was on it regarding state house security. One of the Republican members of the committee had announced he had to leave the meeting early, nothing was said to him. As the meeting got the the point of closing one of the Democrat members of the committee announce they had one more issue to address. It was then that the Republican members knew they where about to see the end of real safety at the State House Complex.

It is not hard to understand their outrage as a vote ensued and right down party lines the Democrats defeated the protests and no votes of the Republicans and created a new regulation.

I expect you all know by now that the Facilities committee has banned
"dangerous weapons" from the State House, LOB and Upham Walker House.

The feedback that I have gotten is that you are all anxious to express your displeasure to the majority party which perpetrated this act. I am hoping to have hundreds of citizens roaming the halls of the State House the morning of Jan 6, the first Session Day between approximately 9A to 11A, wearing empty holsters.

Please spread this far and wide.

Dan

Hon. Daniel C. Itse
(603) 642-9403


So, Show up in Concord next Wednesday and help get across the message that we will not stand for NH taking any stand against the US 2nd amendment, as well as NH's 2a rights!

Some people have stated they will be going with non-empty holsters, as this is not a law, just a building regulation, the worst they can do is ask you to leave.

I'm going to leave my gun in the car, I think it makes a bigger statement.

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Blind Bat
January 2, 2010, 12:14 PM
I'm really surprised we saw this happen in NH. Marshall Cobleigh (ex. speaker of the house) has a great story in his memoir ("We ain't Making Sausage Here") about how a representative got upset with him for moving his seat and showed up drunk and armed to the FLOOR of the house. It's illegal for uniformed police to be on the floor so he able to get a plain clothes statey to come down and drag the guy out. There was a vote soon there after to ban guns from the state house which passed HOWEVER the law stated that you couldn't be asked or searched for a weapon. Weapons have been legal in the balcony overlooking the house floor up until this bill passed.

I'm very disappointed in the NH house for passing this bill. I thought we were more of a libertarian state than that.

I'm also sad to say that I just realized Marshal Cobliegh passed away last year. His book gives a great history of how a small government should be run. It's really too bad our reps aren't forced to stay in a small hotel and work out their differences over a round of cards instead of the perpetual partisan deadlock the we have now.

Blind Bat
January 2, 2010, 12:36 PM
Another bump for you.

Here's an MP3 podcast (http://www.nhpr.org/audio/audio/ex-2005-11-29.m3u) with Marshall on NH public radio. The story about almost being shot starts at 17:50.

Even though he's a republican, I'm sure he would have supported the ban on guns but it's still a great story and and a super interesting podcast. The actual interview starts around 8:30mins in. Rest in peace Marshall.

Hopefully, I'll be able to make it at 9am but I've got a mandatory meeting down around Boston that morning. We'll see what happens.

zombienerd
January 3, 2010, 01:07 AM
Thanks for that podcast, interesting to say the least :)

Hope you can make it!!

zombienerd
January 3, 2010, 05:13 AM
Make it a Family Event!! Bring the kids wearing holsters too!! :D

TEAM101
January 3, 2010, 11:04 AM
I'm going to leave my gun in the car, I think it makes a bigger statement.

No offense, but I guess I never understood the point of this. Showing up with an empty holster pretty much says "Here we are wearing empty holsters and fully complying with the ban". Not much of a protest if you ask me. I'm curious why you think this makes a bigger statement. What message are proponents of this type of protest hoping to convey and how is going with an empty holster going to do it?

zombienerd
January 3, 2010, 02:08 PM
If you wear your weapon inside, you're just going to be escorted out... The purpose of this demonstration is to be INSIDE the statehouse, making everyone see that you're openly upset about the rule change.

The 6th is the first day of session, it will be full with the entire state government. We want them to see us. It does no good if there's nobody walking around because we were all escorted out for wearing weapons.

NH is a very active state when it comes to peaceful civil disobedience, so I'm sure that there will be several people wearing weapons, and trying to get into the statehouse. I want to make sure that I make it through the doors. I hope to engage some of the people who enacted the rule in conversation, I want to find out why they did it, from their own mouths.

Webbj0219
January 4, 2010, 04:10 AM
I dont see what the big deal is over banning guns from the state house? We cant carry into the post office either. We can open carry on the streets and a CCW is easy enough to get in NH. Im happy about that : )

ArmyJerry
January 4, 2010, 09:11 AM
Dont give an inch, bring your weapon, this is the last truly free state. Dint give an inch gents. Try not to get arrested, but if you do make sure its a mass arrest and on camera.

mcdonl
January 4, 2010, 12:53 PM
Dont give an inch, bring your weapon, this is the last truly free state. Dint give an inch gents. Try not to get arrested, but if you do make sure its a mass arrest and on camera.

I think I would prefer to not get arrested on camera or otherwise. Dont be stupid. You are going to knowingly break the law in protest. I know it sounds good, but losing your right to own a weapon in the process seems counter intuitive.

Azul
January 4, 2010, 06:29 PM
I think I would prefer to not get arrested on camera or otherwise. Dont be stupid. You are going to knowingly break the law in protest. I know it sounds good, but losing your right to own a weapon in the process seems counter intuitive.
No one can take away your right to own a weapon. They can refuse to recognize that right, and make it awfully difficult for you to exercise that right, but they can't take the right away from you.
That may sound nit picky, but it's not. We don't want to give the .gov the impression that our rights come from their good grace.

telomerase
January 4, 2010, 06:59 PM
The whole visual point of the protest is the empty holster. You can see full holsters anywhere you want in NH.

Try to look at it from the point of view of the other side. Would they prefer that you do clever, eye-catching media memes? Or just get yourself pointlessly arrested and disappear quietly and unseen?

Physical guns aren't the point, it's all about the ideas. Guns are nearly obsolete now, they'll be totally obsolete soon... but memes go on forever.

zombienerd
January 5, 2010, 05:09 PM
You are going to knowingly break the law in protest.

Nope... No law, just a building regulation.

The WORST that could happen is they can escort you out.

Webbj0219
January 5, 2010, 10:13 PM
I think a bunch of ppl going in there with guns and breaking the law would make gun owners look kinda silly, probably the kind of thing the anti gunners would expect. We live in America there are much better ways to go about this I'm sure. Im no political guru, though. I think empty holsters might be a good way to get the point across that were upset about them making another pointless law. We could set up a petition and see how many signatures we get? I think if you get soo many signatures they will reopen the session concering the new law. Or we could post something in the news paper? Etc...?

Usually the most sucessfull protests are proactive not re-active

Webbj0219
January 5, 2010, 10:42 PM
Ill Try to be there. I just hope everybody can stay civil and respectful. There may be news coverage if there is enough ppl there. If anybody makes a big scene like shooting a gun off in the air or something, I'm outa there. I am kinda interested in this, never been in a protest before. Looking forward to possible learning a thing or two about politics and protest.

ArmyJerry
January 16, 2010, 10:59 PM
How did this protest turn out?

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