1917 eddystone problems


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coosbaycreep
January 2, 2010, 07:01 PM
I just bought a sporterized eddystone yesterday for $100. The dude I got it from said he had never shot it, but I didn't see anything wrong with it so I went ahead and paid him.

Today I took it out and shot it. I loaded 3 rounds at first, and all of them fed and shot well. I went to load it again, and the second round wouldn't go in. There was a little piece of metal on the right hand side of the magazine follower sticking out that seems to have been binding up, so I just used it as a single shot for the last ten or so rounds.

I also noticed one of the brass had a split in the neck.

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This is the only piece of brass that is like that, and it was some cheap south african stuff (PMP?), so I didn't know if there was something wrong with the gun or the brass. Could that be a headspace problem, or just a bad round?

After I got home, I tried messing with the gun again. The metal piece on the side that was causing problems earlier isn't sticking out anymore, but the follower will stick down too far sometimes, or one end of the follower will stick, and allow the bolt to pass over the bullet instead of chambering.

Is there just a spring or something in there that is messed up or something?

Also, how do you remove the floorplate on one of these things?

Other than that, it seemed to shoot good, and for the cost of a mosin, I have something just as ugly, heavy, and awkward, but at least this one is in a caliber that I already have a lot of ammo for.

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eatatjoes
January 2, 2010, 07:34 PM
To take apart the magazine refer to step number 14 here (http://surplusrifle.com/m1917/rifledisassembly/index.asp).

Regarding the feeding problems, you may have the wrong follower or you may have a follower depressor installed.

Refer to page 2 of this manual for information on the follower depressor: (Direct link to a PDF file):http://www.odcmp.com/Forms/M1917.pdf

IIRC the 1903, the 1903A3 and the M1917 all share similar followers that can be installed interchangeably but they will not always function correctly. The M1917 should take a milled follower similar to the 1903. The 1903A3 should take a stamped follower.

Which one does yours look like?

Milled:http://cgi.ebay.com/1903-Springfield-Milled-Follower--Remington-Marked_W0QQitemZ300381748737QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20091229?IMSfp=TL091229182006r32972

Stamped:http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=151854955

Of course, it could be something else entirely. :rolleyes:

coosbaycreep
January 2, 2010, 09:03 PM
Thanks for all the info!

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I had to pull the whole trigger guard off to get to everything. I found out that the magazine spring is broke off. The thing that was binding up earlier is called a magazine box on numrich. I pulled that out completely, and put the gun back together with the broken spring. I put six rounds in it, and they all cycled properly. I'll take it out tomorrow and shoot it again and see how it does, but since it's not a gun that my life is depending on to be 100% reliable, I think it'll work good enough.

Something else I noticed, is that the follower has an "R" on it, and some of the other stuff has a "W", even though it's an eddystone, so does this mean the gun was probably rebuilt or something?

eatatjoes
January 2, 2010, 10:24 PM
What's the magazine box supposed to do?

If it was rebuilt at an aresenal you should be able to check the stock for markings of a rebuild/rearsenal: http://m1903.com/rbmarks.htm

Here's another link to help explain: http://www.odcmp.org/new_forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=62092

:)

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