Which RCBS kit?


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hometheaterman
January 3, 2010, 06:56 PM
This is the kit I was planning to get http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0018937214924a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=RCBS+RC+Supreme+Master+Reloading+Kit&sort=all&Go.y=2&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=24&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

The Wal Mart a few towns over has reloading stuff and carried this kit but is sold out. They did have another RCBS kit for $217 instead. This one was $277. The cheaper kit just said RCBS Metallic Reloading kit or something and I think it said it had a partner press or something. Is that kit just as good or should I get the RC kit? I don't like paying the extra but I will if I have to.

I bought a tumbler and one die and already have $107 invested. This thing is going to be a huge cost I can see it already. If I buy another die or two then this expensive kit. I'm starting to really doubt if I really wanted to do this. It's going to take a long time to recoup the savings.

I'm going to have to reload 100 boxes or so of ammo to pay for the price of the kit and being I shoot maybe 5 or 6 a year that's going to take a long time.

I'm thinking seriously about taking what I have back. This was going to be my Christmas present but I'm wondering if I wouldn't rather just have something else as this just seems like a huge cost for something I probably wont even use that much.

The Lee kit for right over $100 looks really nice but I keep reading not to get that one and to go for the RCBS. This is the kit I was planning to get http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0018937214924a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=RCBS+RC+Supreme+Master+Reloading+Kit&sort=all&Go.y=2&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=24&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

The Wal Mart a few towns over has reloading stuff and carried this kit but is sold out. They did have another RCBS kit for $217 instead. This one was $277. The cheaper kit just said RCBS Metallic Reloading kit or something and I think it said it had a partner press or something. Is that kit just as good or should I get the RC kit? I don't like paying the extra but I will if I have to.

I bought a tumbler and one die and already have $107 invested. This thing is going to be a huge cost I can see it already. If I buy another die or two then this expensive kit. I'm starting to really doubt if I really wanted to do this. It's going to take a long time to recoup the savings.

I'm going to have to reload 100 boxes or so of ammo to pay for the price of the kit and being I shoot maybe 5 or 6 a year that's going to take a long time.

I'm thinking seriously about taking what I have back. This was going to be my Christmas present but I'm wondering if I wouldn't rather just have something else as this just seems like a huge cost for something I probably wont even use that much.

The Lee kit for right over $100 looks really nice but I keep reading not to get that one and to go for the RCBS. This is the kit I was planning to get http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0018937214924a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=RCBS+RC+Supreme+Master+Reloading+Kit&sort=all&Go.y=2&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=24&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1

The Wal Mart a few towns over has reloading stuff and carried this kit but is sold out. They did have another RCBS kit for $217 instead. This one was $277. The cheaper kit just said RCBS Metallic Reloading kit or something and I think it said it had a partner press or something. Is that kit just as good or should I get the RC kit? I don't like paying the extra but I will if I have to.

I bought a tumbler and one die and already have $107 invested. This thing is going to be a huge cost I can see it already. If I buy another die or two then this expensive kit. I'm starting to really doubt if I really wanted to do this. It's going to take a long time to recoup the savings.

I'm going to have to reload 100 boxes or so of ammo to pay for the price of the kit and being I shoot maybe 5 or 6 a year that's going to take a long time.

I'm thinking seriously about taking what I have back. This was going to be my Christmas present but I'm wondering if I wouldn't rather just have something else as this just seems like a huge cost for something I probably wont even use that much.

The Lee kit for right over $100 looks really nice but I keep reading not to get that one and to go for the RCBS.

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hydraulicman
January 3, 2010, 07:26 PM
what caliber/s are you shooting.

consider this if your going to shoot pistol

https://kempfgunshop.com//index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=630&category_id=190&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41

. it will load ammo much faster . you will need to buy a reloading book and add a scale to this list.

I started with the rcbs kit and I really like it . but for pistol reloading the turret press might be a better fit. After about nine months of reloading I bought a dillon 550B for my bulk pistol loading. I still llike my rockchucker and had a blast learning how to reload.

If your anything like me you will double the amount you shoot by reloading.

NCsmitty
January 3, 2010, 07:28 PM
this just seems like a huge cost for something I probably wont even use that much.

If I was trying to get into reloading, on a budget, I would buy the Lee kit. They are a good value for the money. Lee dies are reliable and will save you money.

Here's a link.

www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=423081



NCsmitty

Jesse Heywood
January 3, 2010, 07:55 PM
I recently bought a bunch of RCBS equipment. I had to work on almost every piece to get it to work. Their quality has gone down the tubes.

I am amazed that you have a WalMart that sells reloading gear!

rfwobbly
January 3, 2010, 07:55 PM
HTM -
I helped a guy out at BassPro today looking at the same kits.

• The smaller RCBS kit does not contain a powder dispenser or a case primer. These are items you'll have to add individually. By the time you do, you're up to the price of the big Rock Chucker kit. So the bigger RCBS kit is the "way to go" with RCBS.

• You might compare this is price to the Hornady LNL Classic which is very similar. The big difference is that the Hornady kit comes with the Hornady RLM whereas the RCBS kit comes with the Speer RLM. IMHO the Hornady RLM covers a LOT more cartridges. (My friend today was really upset the Speer book didn't cover 6.5 Carcano, which the Hornady book did.) However, the BIG WHAMMY with the Hornday press is that you get 1000 bullets free !! That more than tips the scales towards the Hornady LNL Classic.


Additionally, the smaller RCBS press won't handle long rifle cartridges like 30-06, 7mm Mauser, or 7.62 Russian. You may not own one of these rifles now, but these presses will still be going strong in 20 years, so you need to see WAY into the future. By going big, you're prepared for anything.

Try comparing them on Midway. http://www.midwayusa.com/

When it comes to buying your dies, Hornady also offers free bullets with a die set purchase. The free bullets makes the Hornady dies sets (which are some of the VERY best) worth investigating.

Hope this helps!

Dannix
January 3, 2010, 10:28 PM
hometheaterman, I would caution you to be cautious if you want to be cheap. Cheap is possible. Particularly when going Lee (I'm looking forward to breaking in my Lee Classic Cast myself), but then you start talking yourself into considering things like the RCBS ChargeMaster 1500. :D

Personally, I would either go with something you know you may replace, or something you know you wont, and that being a Lee Reloader Single Stage Press for $25 or a Lee Classic Cast for $75. A Lee scale for $25. A Uniflow for $75 or you can learn the Lee powder measures quirks and go, what, $25. Lee dies -- taper for auto, roll for revolver.

You can do it on a budget, you just have to know exactly what you are spending your money on and why you are buying that particular item -- a tumbler and one die at $107 sounds too much unless you got a good tumbler and are in for the long haul.

I personally wouldn't buy anything until you are familiar with a manual. This may be a good start for you:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=480380

Wilburt
January 4, 2010, 08:49 PM
I started with the Rock Chucker kit from RCBS. I really liked it. There customer service is outstanding. However, I underestimated how addicting it was and how much I ended up shooting for pistol. Very soon after I bought a Hornady LNL AP Progressive.

Go for it. It's not just about money but enjoying a new hobby.

hometheaterman
January 6, 2010, 09:59 PM
Hmm, I didn't know that the cheaper RCBS wouldn't let you reload for long rifle calibers like 30-06. Since that's the main caliber I want to reload for I guess that wouldn't work. The RCBS RC Supreme kit will allow you to be able to reload for calibers like that correct? Also besides this kit what else will I need?

Arkansas Paul
January 6, 2010, 10:03 PM
I have the Rockchucker Supreme kit and love it. The only other thing you need for .30-06 is a case trimmer and a set of calipers. A tumbler wouldn't be a bad idea either. Not absolutely necessary, but definately worth it. Of course, you'll need dies and components, but I'm sure you already knew that. Be warned, you will become very addicted. Happy loading.

ranger335v
January 7, 2010, 12:47 PM
Hometheater, for your purposes, the Lee Anniversary Kit will do fine and last you a lifetime if you take care of it and use it correctly. MANY of it's buyers stay with it forever and even if they change to something more costly later they usually keep the older stuff for special purpose tasks. So, get the lower cost version for now, use it happily and know that it won't be waste.

But, in defense of the small RCBS Partner (alum alloy) press, I have a friend who uses one for his .338Win. I haven't watched but he doesn't seem to have any problems so a .30-06 should easily fit/work.

Lee's dies make ammo as good as any.

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