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19-3Ben
January 4, 2010, 08:03 AM
First of all, it's exactly what i had hoped was coming up next from Ruger!!!
Very very happy boy today!

Second, they list capacity as 17+1. That's the same capacity as the ful size, and I doubt they made the frame thich enough to accommodate 17 rounds in that stubby grip. So what gives? Typo? Or were they listing it using the standard sized mags.

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NinjaFeint
January 4, 2010, 08:11 AM
"The SR9c compact pistol weighs in at 24 oz. and features an overall length of 6.875", a height of 5.00", and the same slim 1.27" grip width as the full-sized SR9. It comes with two magazines that provide options in both capacity and grip size. The standard magazine holds 10 rounds and features a flat bottom butt plate; a finger grip extension floor plate is also included. The second magazine features a grip adapter and holds 17 rounds, instantly transforming the smaller, compact grip into a full-sized 9mm grip. The 3.50" barreled pistol features an integral accessory rail that accommodates most lights and lasers."

From Ruger's web site

ATBackPackin
January 4, 2010, 09:34 AM
They say it's 5.00" high, but I think that is with the 17 cap finger extension mag. If you look at a specific one ( let's say the brushed stainless for example ) it has a height of 4.61". That is almost an inch shorter than the full size SR9.

It looks like to me with the 10 cap mag that the SR9c is the same width, almost an 1" shorter in height and almost 3/4" shorter in length than the SR9.

MikeJackmin
January 4, 2010, 10:41 AM
Is there a way to gracefully remove the magazine and thumb safeties from these things?

highorder
January 4, 2010, 11:04 AM
Is there a way to gracefully remove the magazine and thumb safeties from these things?

The magazine safety pops out in 10 seconds, and the thumb safety is small, sleek, and ignorable if you please.

MikePaiN
January 4, 2010, 11:09 AM
No pics...??? :mad:

Jbabbler
January 4, 2010, 11:16 AM
Sure is a thick gun for Concealed Carry. Not sure why anyone would choose this over other compact guns that are thinner.

Slide Material:Stainless Steel
Slide Finish:Brushed Stainless
Grip Frame:Black, High Performance, Glass-Filled Nylon Sights: Adjustable 3-Dot
Barrel Length: 3.50"
Overall Length: 6.85"
Height: 4.61"
Width: 1.27"
Weight: 23.40 oz.
Capacity: 10+1
Twist: 1:10"
RH Grooves: 6


http://ruger.com/products/sr9cBrushedStainless/specSheets/3316.html


http://ruger.com/products/sr9cBrushedStainless/images/3316.jpg

wow6599
January 4, 2010, 11:19 AM
It took them this long to come out with a "compact :rolleyes:" 9mm? A countdown timer for a gun that EVERYBODY makes?
A GP100 and Blackhawk in .327?

Ruger needs to...........

NinjaFeint
January 4, 2010, 11:22 AM
Man that extractor looks huge when you chop the barrel size down

Jbabbler
January 4, 2010, 11:23 AM
It took them this long to come out with a "compact " 9mm? A countdown timer for a gun that EVERYBODY makes?
A GP100 and Blackhawk in .327?

Ruger needs to...........

Yeah, I don't get it. If I were designing a new 9mm compact it would darn sure be thinner than the competition. The only reason people buy a "compact" is to conceal it. Why make it thicker than every other compact on the market? Heck, you can get a double stack 45 that's thinner than that 10 capacity 9mm.

Quoheleth
January 4, 2010, 11:27 AM
Why make it thicker than every other compact on the market?

Cheaper. Chopping the grip down adds basically zero cost for R&D, unlike developing/"developing" a completely new gun.

BTW, that 1.27" is across the thumb safety. Slide thickness is right at 1", IIRC. I wish manufacturers gave both an OAW (overall width) and a slide width in their specs to make comparisons more apples/apples.

Q

Fishslayer
January 4, 2010, 11:43 AM
Why would anybody want a monster like the GP100 in a .32?:uhoh:

Landric
January 4, 2010, 12:21 PM
Why would anybody want a monster like the GP100 in a .32?

I can't answer that one, but I think a Blackhawk in .327 Fed would make a fantastic small game gun and a fun plinker. I'm not sure that it was necessary to make it an eight shooter, but I suppose a lot of people think that more is always better. I see one of the new Blackhawks in my future.

19-3Ben
January 4, 2010, 01:07 PM
Why would anybody want a monster like the GP100 in a .32?

As a step up from .22LR when teaching new shooters. Or for that matter for my wife. She broke her elbow 2 years ago and even moderate recoil still hurts the elbow to the point where she flinches. This would make a perfect nightstand gun for her. A powerful enough round to serve for self defense, 7 rounds, reliable, and low recoil.

Personally, I'd just load the Gp100 with a light-medium .38spl to get similar results, but there is a lot to be said for the .327. SD is higher, high energy, high velocity, etc... So if it's limited to light .38's anyway, why not get similar energy with the .327 and get an extra round to boot?

NG VI
January 4, 2010, 02:36 PM
I think the .327s they came out with are pretty cool, especially the Blackhawk, and I would definitely buy one at some point.

9c looks ok, but I am in no rush to try out either that or the SR9.

Blind Bat
January 4, 2010, 09:55 PM
My gripes:
1. Who needs a mag disconnect? If they are going after PD's why not make it optional for for civilians who 'aren't qualified to handle a Glock fohty?' Mag safeties make it a pain to use in IDPA competitions because the SO's like to hear the hammer fall on an empty chamber with the mag out of the gun. And of course the inevitable negative trigger feel.
1a. Yes, you can remove the safety easily but if it's not done by the factory it's not legal in competition use. If I buy one I might drive it over to the factory in NH to have remove the disconnect I can have documentation that it was a factory option.

2. How did Ruger managed to make a gun uglier than Glock?!?!?!?! Why did they feel the need to use the side of the gun as a bill board? What is the deal with the
Ron Jeremy of extractors? And why the excessive slide serrations?

3. Why should I buy the SR9c over a Glock 26? It's heavier than the G26 (19.75 vs 24oz) and thicker than a G26 (1.18" vs 1.27")?!?!? I really can't believe it's thicker than a G26 but those are the numbers Glock and Ruger's respective websites.

The grip on the SR9c is a little longer than the G26 which will probably make it nicer to shoot than the G26 without a mag extension. It'll probably be cheaper than the G26 but who knows if night sights and mags will be as cheap and easy to come by. I'm going to withhold final judgment until I can handle an SR9c and a G26 at the same time. So far I'm still leaning towards Glock which is too bad since Ruger has a factory in NH and I like to support local companies. For full disclosure, I own a Ruger MKI and an LCP and no Glocks at this point in time.

highorder
January 4, 2010, 11:09 PM
Again, the mag safety allows Ruger to sell guns in California, Massachusetts, and other states that require one. Ruger needs to sell guns to make money to sell more guns.

The SR9 width is quoted across the ambi-thumb safety. They are quite slim otherwise.

If I buy one I might drive it over to the factory in NH to have remove the disconnect I can have documentation that it was a factory option.

That's a long drive for a gun made in Prescott AZ.

Why did they feel the need to use the side of the gun as a bill board?

Both sides of the gun are nearly blank. Have you seen one?

And why the excessive slide serrations?

The SR9 has 11. The Glock has 7. Excessive is subjective.

RUT
January 5, 2010, 12:00 AM
I ordered my SR9c this morning.... can't wait! :)

Blind Bat
January 5, 2010, 03:14 AM
Again, the mag safety allows Ruger to sell guns in California, Massachusetts, and other states that require one. Ruger needs to sell guns to make money to sell more guns.
None of the four models listed (Bright Stainless, Black Stainless, Hi-Cap, Low Cap are approved for sale in MA or CA. The SR9 has specific model numbers for those states.

After watching a video on youtube of how to extricate the mag safety, I'd leave it alone since shouldn't hinder the trigger mechanism. And it appears to fail safe meaning that if the disconnector gets dirty, jammed or its spring loses tension the gun should still fire unless the disconnect breaks in half and jams the firing pin. It's a pretty simple system whereby the mag simply pushes up a secondary firing pin/striker block. If you must have a mag disconnect in a gun this is probably the way to go about implementing it.


The SR9 has 11. The Glock has 7. Excessive is subjective.

I count 17 on the SR9c. They added a bunch of serrations to the front of the slide.

http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Ruger-SR9c-Compact-Pistol-brushed-stainless-11.jpg

And the billboard thing... It actually doesn't look as ugly now that I'm not at work. Funny how that happens.

P.S. I don't get adjustable sights on carry guns...

P.P.S. Someone pointed out in another thread that the "grip width" listed by Ruger include the width of the manual safety. I'm not sure why they would do that but when they are competing against the likes of Glock and SA but I guess someone would have called them a liar if they didn't. They probably should put a size comparison of the SR9c against the G19 and G26 on their website.

CPshooter
January 5, 2010, 04:07 AM
I think it looks pretty slick. I don't know what would make me want it over my P2000sk or even a Glock 26, but if it's more affordable than the competition and proves to be reliable, I'm sure it will sell.

evan price
January 5, 2010, 04:11 AM
"Billboard on the side", well, they gotta put their name on it, right? Everybody does that. I bet it is done with a laser engraver, so the brownish color is caused by the process.

Seriously, though, all that hyped timer crud and for this?

They still can't build a KelTec even when they try to copy one. The P11 beats this almost anywhere except for if you stick in the long mag for more capacity.
P11 is smaller, thinner, shorter, lighter, and holds the same ten rounds. That said, the KT has a moderately bad trigger and I don't know about the Ruger.

Well, plus, it's a Ruger, so it would be built like a tank but handle like one, too.

Blind Bat
January 5, 2010, 09:31 AM
Evan - I agree with you. It's going to cost $100+ more than the P11 and all you really get is the better trigger and the ability to use hi cap mags. However, for a gun I'd carry (concealed) to the range, shoot all day, and carry back home again the trigger is a huge plus. I'm not a big fan of the KT trigger but in all other departments the P11 is the winner.

P.S. I'm really a big fan of how Dan Wesson does their slide markings... as small as possible in a nice script. And don't get me started on this:
http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-SR9C/DSC09940.JPG

I'm going to have "Gun May Discharge if Pressed" inscribed on all my triggers...

highorder
January 5, 2010, 10:02 AM
Yeah, that loaded chamber indicator is something, isn't it?...

None of the four models listed (Bright Stainless, Black Stainless, Hi-Cap, Low Cap are approved for sale in MA or CA. The SR9 has specific model numbers for those states.

The SR9 is designed to be compliant. The CA legal SKU's simply include a 10 round magazine.

(I didn't see the forward serrations on the SR9c, that is a bit much)

And it appears to fail safe meaning that if the disconnector gets dirty, jammed or its spring loses tension the gun should still fire unless the disconnect breaks in half and jams the firing pin.

I don't like the sound of any of that; I'd remove it immediately. :)

poilu
January 5, 2010, 10:19 AM
same demensions as a glock 19, except the glock holds 51+1, is 3 ozs. lighter and probably more reliable.

hammerklavier
January 5, 2010, 10:44 AM
I will also pass on this one. The S&W compacts are smaller in all dimensions, same length barrel and also accept the larger mags (and you can get a .40 cal).

woad_yurt
January 5, 2010, 10:50 AM
I want one of those Glocks with a 51+1 capacity. It's amazing what they're doing these days.... :neener:

Ultrastar
January 5, 2010, 02:45 PM
I like it. On paper (or computer :)) measurements may be in favor of one gun to the next, but I say wait until you can hold it, see how it fits your hand and wallet then go from there.

W.E.G.
January 5, 2010, 03:17 PM
ITS THE THING THAT GOES UP!!! :what:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/trivia/thingthatgoesup.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/smileys/zomg-3.gif

EdLaver
January 5, 2010, 03:27 PM
I'll stick with my Glock 29 and M&Pc 9mm

Ghost Tracker
January 20, 2010, 08:31 PM
To me, the S&W M&P9c is the primary SR9C competition. I know the published thickness says it's wider than the G26, but that including the ambi-thumb safeties. IMHO - If the SR9C "feels" better (to me!) than the M&P9c...and the M&P "feels" better than the G26...then I'M GONNA' buy the new Ruger. I don't think there's a gnat's rear-end worth of difference between the accuracy, reliability or value of these three options. Yes, I have (several) GLOCK models. Ditto for S&W. But Ruger doesn't take a back-seat to either!

LongJohn
January 31, 2010, 11:31 AM
I have an SR9 and SR9c, and I actually prefer the SR9c, oddly enough. It is not a "thick" unit: same as SR9, but it is not a pocket pistol. It is a compact, same as other compacts (SW, Springfield, Glock) on the market. It seems to have nice balance, and for me it is shooting better than the SR9 (better trigger;same design, but smoother & lighter. Clearly,they have worked on it, and it really helps with accuracy & consistency). It holsters more comfortably also (Serpa - same size as Glock 26), due to that reduced size. Seems like a decent gun.

vikz
January 31, 2010, 03:54 PM
I guess the issue here is either you like Ruger or not, me personally I like the SR9 when it 1st came out but just have issue on the length of the grips but now I bought this SR9c its perfect for me, very light,slim and so far reliable and accurate for what it is design for: as a carry gun not for competion..P.S nothing against Glocks but I shot a couple before sorry to say not my 1st choice when it comes to polymer/tuppware pistols..

Mike J
January 31, 2010, 04:10 PM
I saw a SR-9C yesterday. The grip with the 10 round mag is the length of a G-26. The slide is the length of a G-19. It was not a bad looking gun.

nwilliams
January 31, 2010, 05:48 PM
My local shop has one for about $450.

I owned a full size SR9 for a while but sold it. I would probably pass on the SR9c, although if I had to choose between the full size and the compact I would definitely pick the compact next time.

bds
January 31, 2010, 06:12 PM
I want one of those Glocks with a 51+1 capacity. It's amazing what they're doing these days

Haven't you heard of the new Gen4 G19 with full-auto and belt fed option? :D

jon_in_wv
January 31, 2010, 06:16 PM
I handled a SR9C in the local shop a few days ago. It really is a nice slim piece and it has a really nice and slim feeling grip. The slide looked thinner and had much less profile than my M&P9C or the G26/27. The 1.27 inch measurement in width is measured from the outside of the safety levers NOT the slide width. The trigger on the SR9C was fantastic. The reset felt even better than the Glocks. The only thing I didn't care to much for was the adjustable rear sight. The notch just wasn't as big as I like. Other than that I thought it was a pretty cool piece.

bds
January 31, 2010, 08:35 PM
I wonder if Ruger will do the message in Braile for visually challenged shooters ... :scrutiny: Kinda hard to see ...

http://www.mathsisfun.com/temp/img14.gif

http://www.gunblast.com/images/Ruger-SR9C/DSC09940.JPG

Bush Pilot
January 31, 2010, 10:10 PM
I purchased the compact model on Saturday and shot the gun today (Sunday). I have to say it shoots well even with hot loads. Is it everything to everyone? No, it is what it is, a well built gun that goes bang when you pull the trigger. I don't understand why people buy a $400.00 gun and then piss and moan about a lack of features or how it weighs too much. If you want your "perfect" gun, drop $3500.00 on a custom gun so you don't have to complain about what you didn't get for $3,000.00 less.

NinjaFeint
January 31, 2010, 10:43 PM
Got an email from one of the local shops that they had them in stock. They are selling either slide color for 389.99. Seems like you get a lot for your dollar.

NG VI
January 31, 2010, 11:04 PM
I want one of those Glocks with a 51+1 capacity. It's amazing what they're doing these days....



Yeah but they only come in 3mm Parabellum

David E
January 31, 2010, 11:21 PM
Is the trigger any better on the compacts ?

The Wiry Irishman
January 31, 2010, 11:50 PM
Not a Ruger or a plastic gun fan, but I think they're addressing a price point that your major wondernine compact makers don't make it down to. Rugers tend to work well, so they'll probably sell great.

vikz
February 1, 2010, 03:43 PM
man for 389.99 that's the lowest i have heard of the SR9c going for, i got mine for 399.99

Mike J
February 1, 2010, 05:16 PM
They redesigned the SR-9 trigger for this gun David. IIRC I read it breaks at something like 5.2 pounds. The same trigger they are using in the compacts now will be used in the full sized from here on out. I don't have the link handy I posted it on a thread a few days ago to an American Rifleman blog about this.
OK found the link www.americanrifleman.org/BlogEntry.aspx?id=2066&cid=25

Blind Bat
February 1, 2010, 09:52 PM
To those of you who have fondled the SR9c - How does the grip feel compared to the G26? Does the gun seem to conceal any easier than the G26?

BossHogg
February 3, 2010, 08:24 AM
I think price is the issue here. Ruger enters at a good deal for size of gun. Glocks are about to price them selfs out of the market. The whole thing with Glock was good gun at good price but no more on good price.

jon_in_wv
February 4, 2010, 06:52 PM
I think the grip felt much slimmer than the Glocks but The Glocks grips is maybe a little bit shorter. The rear of the slide protrudes farther back than the Glock. In my experience that makes it a little more tough to conceal than a few tenths of an inch in width.

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