Arizona: "Some seniors feel protected by carry, conceal weapons"


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cuchulainn
November 13, 2003, 07:08 AM
from the A.P.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10495894&BRD=1817&PAG=461&dept_id=222087&rfi=6Some seniors feel protected by carry, conceal weapons

Wire Services, Associated Press November 11, 2003

SUN CITY (AP) - Sergei Sikorsky of Sun City Grand has taken a step to protect himself. He said he carries a firearm wherever he goes with the confidence he could save his own and others' lives if necessary.
"It is better to be safe rather than sorry," he said. "I wanted to have the legal right to carry a gun in my car and the (paperwork stating) I had taken the course on gun management. I do not consider it a crime to take a pistol course to learn how to handle it."
Sikorsky said he considers Sun City Grand safe, but never knows when danger might arise.

More and more seniors also share those thoughts.

According to the state Department of Public Safety, 31,236 state residents between the ages of 50 and 69 have the right to carry concealed weapons, which includes 6,195 women.

Ken Senft, owner of Guns Plus in Surprise, a concealed-carry weapons instructor, said the trend seems to be that increasing numbers of women take the training because they feel a need for added protection.

"They feel more vulnerable when they get older," he said.

Millie Amburgy of Sun City Grand said she usually carries a 9 mm pistol, concealed in a fanny pack or handbag.

"I think if I go out alone, I would be very likely to have my weapon with me," she said.

A gun alone won't guarantee protection; women need to be aware of their surroundings, she said.

Don Strong of Sun City teaches classes on carrying concealed weapons. There is no doubt the Sun Cities are safer then most communities, he said, but he sees residents becoming more concerned with safety issues as they get older.

In a recent class of 12, nine were seniors.

"They are concerned about their safety," Strong said. "They need a firearm to protect them. It could make the difference between living and dying."

Strong said women used to shy way from taking the courses, but added that is changing. He said they now make up 25 percent of his classes. Al Seehoffer, owner of The Shootist Gun Shoppe in Youngtown, said, percentage wise, more people in the Sun Cities have received concealed-weapons permits in the past two years.

Seehoffer said the state requires a 16-hour training course. During the numerous classes conducted in the Sun Cities annually, instructors focus on firearms safety and gun laws.

Permits must be renewed every four years.

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El Tejon
November 13, 2003, 07:29 AM
Memo to self: Do NOT cut in line at the 4:30 buffet in GWR!:eek:

Quick! Post a poll! "Which shoulder weapon for the golf cart?" No way those golf carts can outrun a bear.

Good for Mr. Sikorsky and Millie.

Oracle
November 13, 2003, 08:30 AM
This is really good news, folks, better than it looks like on the surface. Old folks are the largest and most influential voting bloc in the country. If you get them supporting concealed carry for themselves, then it's likely the rest of us will have it as well, possibly even national reciprocity.

El Tejon
November 13, 2003, 08:33 AM
Or, good point, sir.

azthistletoe
November 13, 2003, 11:50 AM
I shop at Guns Plus. Always elderly people in there, it's great - they help a young'in like me every now and then, too. :) I see at least one elderly woman being told why she probably wants a revolver versus a semi-auto pistol for self defense every week.

I think retirement communities are a great place to work. Sure, some people are a little more picky than normal and the driving is - well, scary - but if you can past those things no other environment beats it.

Lennyjoe
November 13, 2003, 11:58 AM
A gun alone won't guarantee protection; women need to be aware of their surroundings, she said.

Smart girl!

RVSinOK
November 13, 2003, 11:58 AM
31,236 state residents between the ages of 50 and 69 have the right to carry concealed weapons, which includes 6,195 women.

I beg to differ. They ALL have the RIGHT. SOME of them also have the state's PERMISSION!! :fire:

MuzzleBlast
November 13, 2003, 12:10 PM
First off, the fact that a totally impartial article can be published on this issue is encouraging.Strong said women used to shy way from taking the courses, but added that is changing. He said they now make up 25 percent of his classes.That is even more encouraging. Getting more people who aren't middle-aged white rural males into our sport is the only way it is going to survive.
The big question I have is: since an increasing number of seniors is recognizing the need for armed self-protection, why is the AARP so firmly on the wrong side?

Balog
November 13, 2003, 12:35 PM
Hehe, I met a couple of packin seniors last Saturday. Course we we were at a gravel pit shooting so it's probably not surprising...:rolleyes:

geekWithA.45
November 13, 2003, 04:33 PM
Some seniors feel protected by carry, conceal weapons

FEEL Protected? How about ARE protected?

Searching your carry on bag for nail clippers is supposed to make you FEEL protected.

Of course, we know better.

Oracle
November 13, 2003, 07:03 PM
The big question I have is: since an increasing number of seniors is recognizing the need for armed self-protection, why is the AARP so firmly on the wrong side?

Probably because it's the default position for a lot of political organizations, especially those who seek entitlements for their members. Things like this take time to change. One good way to get it done is to try and get every AARP member you know to write a letter to AARP asking them to change their policy. It's not a policy that is integral to their raison d'etre, so that should be a very real possibility.

Standing Wolf
November 13, 2003, 10:42 PM
The only problem this senior citizen has encountered carrying a concealed firearm is that big guns are hard on my lower back.

Every time I receive junk mail from the A.A.R.P., I send it back in the postage-paid envelope with a message to let it know I don't ever do business with anti-Second Amendment bigots.

P95Carry
November 13, 2003, 10:58 PM
''Senior Citizen SW?? Shucks ... didn't think 51 was that ''senior'' yet!:p

I have 7 years on you and still don't think of myself as ''Senior'' .... ole fart yes!!Every time I receive junk mail from the A.A.R.P., I send it back in the postage-paid envelope with a message to let it know I don't ever do business with anti-Second Amendment bigots. Know what .. I think I should take the trouble to do the same ..... it is of course quicker to let the stuff go thru the shredder but .... maybe i should add my lil bit like that. Hmmm ...... yeah.:evil:

Standing Wolf
November 13, 2003, 11:50 PM
Shucks ... didn't think 51 was that ''senior'' yet!

19 from 37, carry the 8... or something like that. It's a math thing. I don't understand, either.

westex
November 14, 2003, 12:39 AM
I my be wrong on this but something tells me I read an article about AARP in Guns & Ammo a few years ago that basically said AARP is a privately owned and operated organization. Not member operated organization like most folks think they are. If I remember correctly they make a BIG bundle off their various services, prescriptions, insurance, etc.. I wish I had kept that article. Maybe someone knows what I'm thinking about.

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