Tikka T-3 Lite


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Encoreman
January 7, 2010, 09:13 AM
Hi I am looking at an entry level .223 prairie dog gun. I found a Tikka T-3 lite for around $500 and am considering it. I know it doesn't have a bull barrel, but I will be shooting other guns. Tell me what you know about these guns, good or bad?? Thanks Mac

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PT1911
January 7, 2010, 09:25 AM
Very good. IMO... I have given some thought to the Tikka t-3 lite in .243 but just cannot justify it to myself when I already own .223's and a .270. I am not sure what place it would take or what role it would serve.

viking499
January 7, 2010, 10:08 AM
They are good shooting guns. Light and accurate. Some will chime in soon about the plastic parts and cost of magazines. That part doesn't bother me much. My concern is about their customer service over the long haul. It is terrible and if you needed parts, order and wait and wait and wait..........

stork
January 7, 2010, 11:48 AM
From personal experience I only own one. 223 T-3 SS. Out of the box it shot under 3/4" with my short line high power loads with 69 Sierra's. As it's purchase was for short range Coyote work (<300 yds), I didn't bother with any other load development. Two of my close reloading friends have them in 7-08 that shoot a ragged hole at 100 yds.

I work part time in a local sporting goods store. The T-3 is one of, if not the best sellers we have. I have yet to see one brought back because it didn't live up to the 1" guarantee. And that's out of close to a thousand I've seen go out in the last 3 1/2 yrs.

FWIW
Stork

Uncle Mike
January 7, 2010, 12:11 PM
I work part time in a local sporting goods store. The T-3 is one of, if not the best sellers we have. I have yet to see one brought back because it didn't live up to the 1" guarantee.

Best seller.....one of anyway. Let's see, they are cheap, shoot descent, are cheap, don't look all that bad, cheap, offered in all the popular calibers and, did I mention that they are cheap!

Just because your moving a lot of them, does in no way, attribute to their worth.
I mean, when it comes down to money, cheap moves a LOT more than expensive!

So, you have a cheaply built rifle, with too many, plastic parts, expensive, plastic magazines and almost non-existent parts service from a company with crap customer service......wow, I'd get up real early to buy one of those!

The Tikkas are ok for the money...we sell quite a few of them also but not to folks looking for a accurate, well built rifle...people looking for.... for a rifle!

I have yet to see one brought back because it didn't live up to the 1" guarantee.

Does your store honor the '1" Guarantee' that Tikka makes? Do you guys take back any rifle(Tikka) sporting a accuracy guarantee on the customers word that the rifle itself is bad and will not preform up its guarantee?

timbertoes
January 7, 2010, 12:52 PM
Sounds like there is a niche market for metal magazines, for some machinist out there. :)

Will Fennell
January 7, 2010, 12:54 PM
I currently own 1 T3, and have helped friends/students setup and sight in 3 more. All have easily met the 1" guarantee. Mine[6.5swede] and one other[.270 WSM] have with little load development shot under .5 ". The others we have just shot factory loads through.

Yup, the mags are pricey- $69.95 RETAIL[ I just checked, the Browning Abolt mag is $69.95, and the Xbolt mag is $49.95], but they work really well. One comes with the gun, buy an extra one and your done. They are readily available on the net.

If you want parts, simply go to www.brownells.com as they are the distributor for Tikka/Sako/Beretta parts.

OK, so they have plastic parts, so do Glocks. If you just can't stand plastic parts in your rifle, then this is not the gun for you. I suggest buying up rifles now, because plastic is here to stay.

The T3 shoots very well, is, in my experience very reliable, and has a great trigger out of the box. IMHO.

Uncle Mike
January 7, 2010, 01:01 PM
I suggest buying up rifles now, because plastic is here to stay.

Sadly, I think that way also. But maybe not!

The Glock, as with many plastic handguns, was designed this way, to be a plastic handgun...not simply a cost cutting measure employed to further profit.

If Tikkas were offered with all metal parts as opposed to plastic parts, for the same price, I wonder how many of the tupperware part rifles would sell? lol hehehehe

stork
January 7, 2010, 01:15 PM
"Does your store honor the '1" Guarantee' that Tikka makes? Do you guys take back any rifle(Tikka) sporting a accuracy guarantee on the customers word that the rifle itself is bad and will not preform up its guarantee?"

#1. Its Tikka's guarantee.
#2. If a firearm is returned within 30 days of purchase, for any reason, a full refund is offered or a return to the manufacturer, at the stores expense.
#3. If we feel it's warranted (possible flinchitis) we will do a range test and confirm.

Stork

Uncle Mike
January 7, 2010, 01:27 PM
So, your store is NOT honoring the guarantee, but doing the leg work for Tikka...
we do the same....IF, and only IF, there is some kind of manufactured defect we can establish.
Even IF the rifle will shoot 1" on our range, often, or I should say all the time the customer wants a different rifle, and the majority of the time they will choose a different manufacturer!

If we can achieve the minimum performance, as dictated by the manufacturers warranty, then it is the customers responsibility to return the rifle...unless of course, they want us to do it, but it cost the customer at that point!

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 01:46 PM
Sadly, I think that way also. But maybe not!

The growing new Hawkeye line from Ruger, and the resurrected and improved Model 70 from Winchester have not a bit of plastic on them unless you choose get them in a synthetic stock. Neither of these (at least in their more basic models) are high-priced bolt guns.

I'm not sure I see any trend towards using more plastic in the action, from any company but Sako/Tikka, in "serious" bolt rifles. Even the "$399 Weatherby" has plastic only in the stock.

Fumbler
January 7, 2010, 03:24 PM
The T3 obviously isn't for everyone.

It's a trade off like most things.
So what do you want?

If you get a T3 you get a rifle that:
-has great machining/tolerances/parts fit
-is very accurate even with factory ammo
-feels and operates smoother than guns in higher price classes
-has a pretty darn good trigger
-is lighter than all common models in it's price class by a full pound
-has a fairly short bolt lift

Or you could have a rifle that:
-has bottom metal
-has a large aftermarket
-has an action as smooth as dragging a cinder block down a road
-is just as accurate as a T3...as long as you spend the time in developing a handload
-has a nice hefty feeling stock...that's still just as flexible as the T3's
-has a cheap stamped spring steel extractor (if you get a 700)

I have a T3 Lite in 308Win and I love it. It shoots sub MOA with 3 of 5 different factory loads I've tried. It's easy getting sub MOA with handloads. Yes, it has a plastic trigger guard and mag, but I like detachable mags. The T3 mag works perfectly and makes it easy to unload a gun.

I don't understand why people say they're cheap. They may feel cheap just because they're so light, but take a close look.
They money you spend on a T3 goes into quality machining that you won't find in another gun at that price.
You really just have to ask yourself what attributes you want your money to go towards in a rifle.

^What part of the action on a T3 is plastic?
The only part of the actual action that's plastic is the rear bolt cover but you're doing something seriously wrong if you ever broke that.

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 03:43 PM
After reading all the posts here about how great the Tikkas are, I checked them out. Not sure what's so exciting.

I did buy a rifle recently. Not a Tikka. Not a 700.

Horsemany
January 7, 2010, 04:00 PM
Yup, the mags are pricey- $69.95 RETAIL[ I just checked, the Browning Abolt mag is $69.95, and the Xbolt mag is $49.95], but they work really well. One comes with the gun, buy an extra one and your done. They are readily available on the net.

Not sure where you got the prices on the Browning magazines but they're typically half the cost of the T3. The 2 gunshops I frequent are $30 and $35 for new X-Bolt magazines. A google search for xbolt magazine brings up a whole bunch available for $30.

I don't have any problem with the polymer parts of the T3. It's a great package. Lightweight, great shooting Sako barrels, very smooth precise action, and one of the best factory triggers available. Sako actually switched to the this trigger after they started producing the Tikka design. Great guns. I prefer my T3 to my Sako 85. Lighter, shoots better, smoother, and more precise feeling action.

atblis
January 7, 2010, 04:05 PM
You should be able to get into a Savage Varmint model for around that much.

All4eyes
January 7, 2010, 04:54 PM
I love my Tikka T3, if you want wood buy the Hunter. Look at the weight of the T3, and change some of that plastic to metal, and you add back the weight they shed by using the plastic. I bought it because it is accurate, and light, which means nice handling hunting rig. I have Remingtons and Rugars that sit at home, because all that metal gets heavy during a hunt.

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 05:00 PM
I have Remingtons and Rugars that sit at home, because all that metal gets heavy during a hunt.

Funny, but it doesn't get so heavy on a Winchester.

TexasEd
January 7, 2010, 05:06 PM
Armed Bear....What did you buy?...you left us hanging brother! As far as the Tikka goes I have an older 595 Whitetail hunter and it's great. I think there solid rifle at a reasonable price point. It's not for everyone. If you want one go for it.

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 05:11 PM
What did you buy?...you left us hanging brother!

I put up a whole range report post about it. Not my fault if you don't look!:D

(I think it got bumped down because everyone posted a lot after Christmas.)

Here it is: http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=496173&highlight=Model+70

BTW the 22" .30-06 with a scope mounted on it, and a regular sporter contour barrel, comes in at 7.5 lbs. total. Ruger and Remington may make heavier-than-necessary rifles, but Tikka isn't the only company that doesn't. And you don't have to buy plastic.

Horsemany
January 7, 2010, 05:45 PM
I used to think like you about plastic parts Armed Bear. I've been collecting pre 64's for years and can appreciate the quality of the past. But I've gotta tell you when it's go time the Tikka comes out before the older guns. It's so simple, lightweight, shoots great, and the trigger is as crisp as my $225 Jewell on my competition gun.

Uncle Mike
January 7, 2010, 06:26 PM
-has great machining/tolerances/parts fit

I don't understand why people say they're cheap. They may feel cheap just because they're so light, but take a close look.

Seriously....have you ever worked on one of these things, have you taken a barrel off....
If you like them...great! But they are a cheap, inexpressibly built rifle!
Doesn't mean they are bad, we are just talking here!

They money you spend on a T3 goes into quality machining that you won't find in another gun at that price

Exactly, where would this quality machining be?

^What part of the action on a T3 is plastic?
The only part of the actual action that's plastic is the rear bolt cover but you're doing something seriously wrong if you ever broke that.

Not many...shroud, trigger guard, trigger bushings(older models).
Not that the plastic is bad or anything, just that some people prefer metal to plastic.
But as someone said, if plastic is a problem for you, buy something else!

The slick bolt is a result of the chrome plated head. Some like that, others hate chrome in a bolt gun...

we sell a lot of them, that's for sure!

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 06:29 PM
Horsemany- Pre-64s are heavy and their stock geometry poor for a scope. I would probably grab the Tikka first, too, if I had to pick one. But again, those aren't the only two choices in the world, and I don't have to pick one.:)

My dad was a plastics engineer, a pioneer in some areas. I grew up around all sorts plastics, and machine shops, and I have nothing against the use of the right materials for the right job.

I don't have a one-dimensional view of polymer materials. I am just not nearly as impressed with the Tikka as some people are, and I do like what FN has done with the Model 70 action, all told -- and it's AT LEAST as slick to cycle it as a Tikka, despite the Model 70 action being a device with more complex function.

Not many...shroud, trigger guard, trigger bushings(older models).
Not that the plastic is bad or anything, just that some people prefer metal to plastic.

That wasn't entirely what I was responding to, either. You don't HAVE to go with all that plastic to get a gun that doesn't weigh 9 lbs. with a scope on it.

And why, exactly, does one need a rear bolt cover? How ugly is what's under there, anyway?:)

Uncle Mike
January 7, 2010, 07:01 PM
How ugly is what's under there, anyway?

It has mentally scared some....yet others became instantly insane, often biting off their tongs......

I wont describe it.....there may be children viewing this forum! lol hehehehe

dougwx12
January 7, 2010, 07:13 PM
I don't care if Tikkas are cheap, "cheap", or ugly. They just plain work, I don't cry if they get scratched, and the damn things hunt out of the box like no other I've seen for that price point. I have quite a few rifles, but the Tikka's see all the time in the field these days.

Snow Dog
January 7, 2010, 07:32 PM
My friends box stock T3 Varmint in 6.5x55, good glass and carefull handloads produced this nice 5 shot group. You need to decide what you want a rifle to do for you. If you want a rifle to hunt and shoot with and that gives you impressive results, then the Tikkas deserve a close look. If you want a rifle that's visually impressive then you might want to look elsewhere. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/robs42mb/GroupP.jpg

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 08:01 PM
I don't care if Tikkas are cheap, "cheap", or ugly. They just plain work, I don't cry if they get scratched, and the damn things hunt out of the box like no other I've seen for that price point.

That's a fair enough assessment. It's not what I usually see here.:)

Horsemany
January 7, 2010, 08:03 PM
Horsemany- Pre-64s are heavy and their stock geometry poor for a scope. I would probably grab the Tikka first, too, if I had to pick one. But again, those aren't the only two choices in the world, and I don't have to pick one.

Wow! I guess you missed my point. I don't only own pre 64's and tikkas. I was using the pre 64's as an example of good solid craftsmanship. Here's my stash that gets left behind every hunting season. Brownin BAR, X-Bolt,700BDL, 700 Classic, Rugger 77mk II, M70 classic, 2 pre 64 70s, 53' model 94 and a Sako 85 Hunter. etc etc. I have other stuff too. I like lightweight simplicity and grab the Tikka. And I don't grab it because I can't afford something else.

Exactly, where would this quality machining be?


I'll answer that Uncle Mike. Look at the bottom of the receiver, inside the bolt raceways, trigger housing etc. Those areas are clean and smooth with razor sharp edges. Look at most American guns and see all the stamped parts for the trigger housing, rough marks everywhere below the stock line. Rough castings for the trigger itself etc.

The other thing about Tikka's is how straight the top rail is for scope mounting. The two I've done hardly needed any scope adjustment because the rail and mounts are so straight. The last 700 I mounted a scope on the screw holes were so off center I needed every bit of windage adjustment on the Leupold base to get zeroed.

Encoreman
January 7, 2010, 08:15 PM
Dang it boys I didn't figure on this much reponse. I forgot to add that I was also looking at a Savage also. I will probably be shooting this from a bench, but I may want to walk around and I don't like packing a heavy gun anymore. Thanks for all the responses, I appreciate the ability to pick a lot of brains before spending my money. Mac

Wirenut1212
January 7, 2010, 08:33 PM
I have t t3 in 7 mag and love it! I would buy another in a second! The action is super smooth. It is very accurate. Now I will admit this is my deer rifle and I don't shoot a ton of ammo threw it, so I can't comment on how well a smaller cal would hold up to tons of prairie dog shooting.

Will Fennell
January 7, 2010, 08:42 PM
Horsemany,
I got the Browning and the Tikka mag prices off their respective company websites.....those are their suggested retail prices. Obvisously, some dealers discount off retail. I've found Tikka mags for less than suggested retail also....and I realize that the Browning mag is less than the Tikka mag. But com'on guys, don't ALL mags[ other than some milsurp] seem like they cost more than they ought to? Why is it that Tikka mags are singled out?

Armed Bear,

Glad you got a M70.....its the classic bolt gun for the USA. I wouldn't sell mine for all the tea in china. Its a pre 64 my grandfather gave me years ago. I'm on my second barrel;) Between us, my father and I have 6 M70's, some pre-war, some pre-64, some in the 'return to pre-64" era. Maybe one day I'll get one of the new "made in my home state" models.

Uncle Mike,
I understand you really don't admire Tikka T3's. Got it. I hear ya.

Obvisously, Tikka/Sako/Beretta choose to use lower cost molded plastic parts in some non critical parts, and put the $$$ is the barrel and trigger[ these parts being the same as in their more than double the cost Sako 85 rifles], and a great action, that is reminiscent of their renown Sako TRG precision sniper rifle system.

BTW, my T3, and non that I have examined have had chromed bolts- polished steel, but not chromed. If it took chrome to make it as smooth as it is, I wouldn't be upset all. Either way, it is an exceptionally smooth cycling bolt.

So, for $600 give or take, you get a smooth feeding, reliable, rifle, with great trigger and a great barrel[ with a 1 moa guarantee ]. The down side is that extra mags are $20 more than a comparable Browning mag, and if you disturbed by synthetic parts, it has a plastic trigger guard and bolt shroud.

In my experience, across a limited number of T3's[ 4 total] , they have come out of the box with triggers better than rifles twice their price, and delivered consistent accuracy better than rifles up to $1000 in my experience.

This is all, IMHO, and again, YMMV.

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 08:47 PM
The last 700 I mounted a scope on the screw holes were so off center I needed every bit of windage adjustment on the Leupold base to get zeroed.

LOL. No doubt you did. There's a reason a hammer is also called a Remington Loading Tool. I really don't "get" Leupold adjustable bases, though. If I had an ordinary hunting rifle that didn't zero somewhere near center with standard Weaver-style bases, I'd probably ditch that rifle.

I have a Weatherby Vanguard Sporter (Howa barreled action in a Weatherby walnut stock). I bought it for $389 brand new with a little bit of shop wear. I put on some Warne bases and rings, and it was on paper at 100 yards. A few clicks, and it was zeroed. The Winchester I recently purchased was about the same with Talleys. Both guns shoot sub-MOA, and neither one is rough below the stock line, or has the signs of poor castings.

I'm sorry, but "lighter and more accurate than a 77MkII!", "machined straighter than a Remington!", and "simpler than a BAR!" are about like saying I should be in the Olympics because I can easily outrun most of the residents of the local nursing home.:D

And how is it simpler than a Sako 85? They're damn near the same rifle, with the Sako having some higher-end touches to it, aren't they?

None of that takes anything away from the fact that the Tikka does shoot straight, and it's simple and light. I'm just amused by the comparisons -- and perhaps you should post your Remington experiences on one of the 700-worship threads. It'd be fun to watch the show.:)

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 08:51 PM
Why is it that Tikka mags are singled out?


I haven't looked at them that closely, but from what I saw, they're injection-molded crap that should sell for $5.00 retail with a healthy profit for manufacturer, wholesaler and retailer. Like I said, I grew up around plastics and related engineering.:)

Personally, I don't single them out. I see no particular reason to put a detachable magazine on any basic bolt rifle, but objectively, $70 is utterly ridiculous for the actual part.

The trigger and accuracy of an out-of-the-box Tikka are good. It's just funny when people think that those are the only things by which to judge a rifle. A trigger like a higher-end rifle doesn't make the Tikka a high-end rifle -- though it can make it a good value. I do think they did a good job of prioritizing where to spend the cost of manufacturing, on a 500 buck rifle, except for the detachable magazine -- which is probably intended as a profit center, like the soda at a burger joint.

Will Fennell
January 7, 2010, 09:12 PM
Armed Bear,
The cost of the T3 mags are just something that is always thrown up in T3 related threads. My point is that ALL detachable mags for bolt guns are expensive. The fact that the T3 mags are plastic just seems to really get under folks skin.

In addition to the T3, I have a Sako 75, 85, and a TRG22. The T3 is COMPLETELY different action than the Sako 75-85. The trigger is close to the same[ a GOOD thing], but the actions and bolts are very different. The T3 much more closely resembles the TRG action.

And SAKO 85's are in the $1400-1600 range, for the standard grade guns....but they do have metal mags:p

Again, glad you like the new M70....I need to get one of the SC produced guns myself!

Horsemany
January 7, 2010, 09:36 PM
I'm sorry, but "lighter and more accurate than a 77MkII!", "machined straighter than a Remington!", and "simpler than a BAR!" are about like saying I should be in the Olympics because I can easily outrun most of the residents of the local nursing home.

And how is it simpler than a Sako 85? They're damn near the same rifle, with the Sako having some higher-end touches to it, aren't they?

Armed Bear I see you singled out the worst characteristic of each of those rifles to make your argument. Genius.

The Sako is more complicated. Overly complicated tapered dovetail that requires expensive mounts. The 3 lug bolt is heavy on bolt lift and not near as smooth or crisp as the T3. Feels a bit sloppier too. The triggers are identical but Sako actually borrowed that from Tikka. You can tell it to when dryfiring. The same trigger feels more crisp with a shorter lock time on the T3. The single stack magazine is easier to take in and out. The T3 is just dead simple. As stated before it's very similar to the TRG action. Very ridgid for it's weight being closed across the top. The Sako's don't fit most people as well as the T3 either IMO with a very open large grip. It makes the gun feel bigger than it is. The T3 is just the opposite.

ArmedBear
January 7, 2010, 11:08 PM
Armed Bear I see you singled out the worst characteristic of each of those rifles to make your argument. Genius.


Horsemany, I see you have the sense of humor of a tree stump. :)

Runningman
January 8, 2010, 12:33 AM
Tell me what you know about these guns, good or bad?? Thanks Mac Own two Tikka T3 both in stainless with synthetic stock in 300 WSM and 270 WSM very pleased with both of them.

Both shoot MOA or better with factory and handloads. Trigger is adjustable for weight. Bolt cycling is very smooth. Wished some some of my other rifles had such smooth feel to them. Single stack magazine feeds the WSM rounds very well. T3s are decent rifles for the money.

Horsemany
January 8, 2010, 07:24 AM
Horsemany, I see you have the sense of humor of a tree stump.

How bout next time you throw in a smiley while confronting everyone elses opinion?

Fumbler
January 8, 2010, 10:21 AM
Seriously....have you ever worked on one of these things, have you taken a barrel off....
If you like them...great! But they are a cheap, inexpressibly built rifle!
Doesn't mean they are bad, we are just talking here!
...
Exactly, where would this quality machining be?
Seriously, if you've taken off a barrel then surely you've noticed:
I'll answer that Uncle Mike. Look at the bottom of the receiver, inside the bolt raceways, trigger housing etc. Those areas are clean and smooth with razor sharp edges. Look at most American guns and see all the stamped parts for the trigger housing, rough marks everywhere below the stock line. Rough castings for the trigger itself etc.

BTW, the bolt on mine isn't chrome plated. It's nicely machined to a fairly smooth surfaace and so is the inside of the reciever. The bolt fits closer to the inside of the reciever than on the 700 and M70 I've owned, which is one reason it's smoother.

Like I said, I don't think they're the best thing on the market, it really just depends on what you want. Most rifles will never be modified, so who needs to take the barrel off anyway?
I do think people bash them more than they deserve. I mean come on, I've never handled a 700 that had a bolt that wouldn't bind if you pushed it wrong.

The mag prices suck greatly, I'll acknowledge that. IMO it should cost about $20...a little more than a PMAG.

How about this for the T3 bashers...lets compare equally priced rifles.
Give me really good reasons why the T3 Lite is inferior to a Remington 700 SPS DM.
Make a detailed list of what exactly sucks on the T3 but doesn't suck on the 700.

Every time we have a T3 thread you get people who say they're nice rifles then you get people who make blanket statements that they're cheap. Maybe someone can shed some real detailed light on this by giving us a real good comparison of equally priced rifles.

brianr23
January 8, 2010, 10:28 AM
Love my T-3 lite stainless in .270. Meets the accuracy guarentee right out of the box. 3-shot .750" group with factory Hornady softpoints. Don't mind the plastic because of the weight and feel of the rifle. Magazines are expensive but the one it came with works fine. I love the weight, feel and action of the gun and the price was right. I would recommend it to anyone looking for a great hunting rifle out of the box.

Uncle Mike
January 8, 2010, 10:36 AM
I'll answer that Uncle Mike. Look at the bottom of the receiver, inside the bolt raceways, trigger housing etc. Those areas are clean and smooth with razor sharp edges. Look at most American guns and see all the stamped parts for the trigger housing, rough marks everywhere below the stock line. Rough castings for the trigger itself etc

Why is the Tikka receiver so smooth inside, I'm asking your opinion...?

The other thing about Tikka's is how straight the top rail is for scope mounting.

Hehehehehe you noticed that! We have never had a problem with the Tikka's not squaring up.

I understand you really don't admire Tikka T3's. Got it. I hear ya.

You know, I regress here! Often casting a dark impression without merit.
I'm not saying that I do not like rifles, we I thought, were just musing over the construction of them.
Often the word 'cheap' conjures images of disgust. The Tikka rifle, for the money it is sold for, in 70% of places that sell them, and for what it is, is a fine rifle.

The only thing I 'really' don't care for is the comb, and general overall looks, of the stock they have. It would be nice if no plastic existed on these rifles, but then again they may cost a penny more, which, in my book, would negate their existence in the U.S. market.

When you work on this stuff long enough, one tends to compare manufacturing process more than overall looks or performance in regards to the worth of the item.

Nothing 'wrong' with the Tikka rifle.

Uncle Mike
January 8, 2010, 10:38 AM
We musta(new way to spell) been typing at the same time.

And about the mags.... why the fuss, the plastic construction? Has anyone had a failure!

Fumbler
January 8, 2010, 10:45 AM
The inside of the receiver is smooth because they spend the extra time machining it that way...which other manufacturers don't do. I don't understand why you ask that question then say:
When you work on this stuff long enough, one tends to compare manufacturing process more than overall looks or performance in regards to the worth of the item.

Uncle Mike
January 8, 2010, 10:58 AM
The inside of the receiver is smooth because they spend the extra time machining it that way

I don't understand this!

Uncle Mike
January 8, 2010, 10:59 AM
Double tap...Sorry!

Horsemany
January 8, 2010, 11:35 AM
is there an echo in here? Uncle Mike just admit you're a closet Tikka lover.

Birdhunter1
January 8, 2010, 12:06 PM
My T3 is a laminated stock stainless version chambered in .243. I can't complain one bit about it other than I wish it was a 9 twist instead of a 10 twist, because I want to shoot a 95 gr Berger VLD. BUT, I went with an 87 gr Hornady VMAX and I will put this gun up against any factory gun with all metal parts at 400 yards anytime.

Don't get me wrong though, when I later buy a 7 rem mag it will be in a Remington 700 not a Tikka but that is only because of how I want the gun to be set up and no fault of Tikka, but by the time I buy it I may change my mind.


I am still trying to figure out that funky bedding block Tikka uses.

Fumbler
January 8, 2010, 12:18 PM
OOOOH, glad you mentioned the recoil lug.

That is the only cost cutting feature that someone can definitely say sucks.
The grove in the reciever is so shallow that the two pieces could potentially break loose. The chances are very very slim and the action screws would have to be loose, but it could happen. Or the groove and block may not line up if someone who's not technically inclined puts it back together.
It'd also make it a paiin to bed if you wanted to.

Uncle Mike
January 8, 2010, 12:29 PM
is there an echo in here? Uncle Mike just admit you're a closet Tikka lover.

You got me!
Kinda like riding a kawi....it's fun until someone you know sees you! lol hehehehehe

It doesn't matter to me what anybody shoots...if it be the Tikka you love, more power to ya'. Same with the other brands....I have seen some really good shooting come from some really cheap stuff...the best shot I have seen with a hunting type rifle was from a Remington 788....hit a pop can at 500y and change, and not once but 4 out of 4 shots!

And BTW...I shoot them all! hehehehe

We're just shootin' the bull here!

berettashotgun
January 8, 2010, 01:26 PM
I bought a T3 - laminate/stainless - in 25-06 and have yet to shoot it, 2 years is coming up.
The wife "claimed" it to match her #1 7mag laminate/stainless, so.....I don't know.
personally I'm not a fan of a detachable mag on any sporting use rifle, blind magazine boxes are ok to me.Hinged floorplate designs are iffy, a 700 in 375 rum in the cabinet has the floorplate pinned, kept jarring loose under recoil - could never figure that one out.
Lost a mag from a 7mm STW chambered 700 and didn't/still don't like detachable mags (since).
BUT, to the naysayers, a nib Tikka 695 (7mm Rem) I picked up for $432 has a metal mag, but only one release button. I like. A-lot.
Still haven't shot it, going on 1 year.
I always seem to grab my 700 for some strange reason:D

Wanta B
January 8, 2010, 02:19 PM
I just had a T3 Stainless/Laminate .30-06 sprg. shipped to one of my favorite FFL holders back home.Have not shot it yet either,as I am some 10,000+mls away.:(

I think it is a nice "looking" rifle.I remember they felt nice,smooth to me but only have trigger time with the older models.We shall see...

I realy want a couple of new Brownchester Light Weights in .300WM and .30-06sprg. too...Wish they made them in stainless tho'.

45crittergitter
January 10, 2010, 03:37 PM
Get the Tikka.

KzoneAL
January 10, 2010, 11:50 PM
I love these tikka threads...I will admit i had to address some problems when i got my T3 lite 243 like add alittle texture paint to the slippery stock,Sims pad, filled the stock butt & forend to quiet & strengthen granted i wouldn't of had to do this if i spent $500+ more on another gun so instead i take the $500 i didnt spend and gave it to the optic zone for a Bushnell 6500.Now i can live with my "cheap" sub MOA T3. Being the picky SOB that i am i have a hard time finding any real problems with these guns.IMO the gun is well thought out...the safety is smooth and easy to get to,the 70deg bolt is smooth cycling and glove friendly,the mag is well fit,easy to fill,and easy in & out.The trigger is easy to adjust and crisp and the guns are good handling and a pleasure to carry. The bottem line here is they are a gun that is affordable and perform as well as guns 2 or 3 times thier price consistantly.

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454c
January 11, 2010, 01:29 AM
And why, exactly, does one need a rear bolt cover?


Doesn't the shroud play a role in gas control on some guns ?;)

Add me to the camp that can't get excited about a tikka. Good grief even Marlin can build an accurate, good trigger, light weight, less plastic bolt gun and sell it for $100-$200 cheaper to boot.

Horsemany
January 11, 2010, 10:47 AM
Add me to the camp that can't get excited about a tikka. Good grief even Marlin can build an accurate, good trigger, light weight, less plastic bolt gun and sell it for $100-$200 cheaper to boot.

I agree other guns are light, shoot well etc. But the difference to me is the craftsmanship. THe Tikka is smooth and crisp like a swiss watch. They know how to build precise things in that part of the world. A Tikka has a distinctive European feel in how it functions and feels. It ain't for everyone but it is different than an American rifle. Especially a low cost American rifle.

atblis
January 11, 2010, 11:13 AM
The stock does kinda have a European thing going on. The palm swell I find quite agreeable.

interlock
January 11, 2010, 11:45 AM
good rifles, very popular here in the uk. if i was in america and with your prices i would go for remmy 700 sps stainless every time over the tikka T3. the 595's were excellant

Horsemany
January 11, 2010, 01:40 PM
good rifles, very popular here in the uk. if i was in america and with your prices i would go for remmy 700 sps stainless every time over the tikka T3. the 595's were excellant

That's an interesting point of view interlock. I've always wondered how these different rifles were perceived in Europe. Do you think most Brits would agree with you and opt for a 700?

bobbytm
January 16, 2010, 01:20 PM
I got some days ago a Tikka t3 varmint 22 250rem and really is
a nice rifle.

atblis
January 16, 2010, 01:58 PM
good rifles, very popular here in the uk. if i was in america and with your prices i would go for remmy 700 sps stainless every time over the tikka T3. the 595's were excellant
Grass is always greener on the other side. I have a 695, and love it. Something puts me off about the T3s even though they are very similar.

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