MI Garand for $200?


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Five-O
January 10, 2010, 02:18 AM
My SIL and I were discussing guns today and he said he's heard of MIs selling for around $200. I gasped :eek:and said I've been wanting to get a Garand forever but they're way too expensive for me. He said that this price is for members of some club or organization that uses Garands only.
Is anyone familiar or knows of such a club, or organization. I wouldn't mind joining if only to get a Garand for $200. He said they were not new and most were milsurps and not in the greatest condition.
But for that price I don't care what condition it's in as long as it shoots.
Thanks

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PT1911
January 10, 2010, 02:21 AM
perhaps a club that costs something in the neighborhood of 500 dollars to join and will get you a rack grade gun at that price (one time purchase)... sure...

if you want a GOOD M1... look to spend a minimum of 500 otd but around 700 is more likely.

Bucksnort101
January 10, 2010, 02:46 AM
Probably referring to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP). The sell Goverment M1 and other Milsurp Guns to quilified people. Used to be you have to have participated in a High Power Rifle Competition in the last 5 years and have proof to buy a rifle, been a while since I've bought one from them and I think the rules have changed.
M1's were going for $400 a few years back, and they have several grades from there.
Google ODCPM or Civilian Marksmanship Program for more info. Have not heard of a Garand going for $200 though. Maybe a parts kit, which is a complete Garand short the receiver.
If you do find a bulk dealer of M1's be sure to let me know, I'd like to buy another one too;) Not holding my breath though.

PT1911
January 10, 2010, 02:48 AM
the CMP's lowest are in the 500 dollar range and even those are mostly part guns that will require new who know what in order to shoot well/safely.

skidooman603
January 10, 2010, 04:34 AM
Must be stuck in a 1960's time warp :)

BHP FAN
January 10, 2010, 04:40 AM
definitely a rift in the space time continuum...

Hacker15E
January 10, 2010, 08:14 AM
the CMP's lowest are in the 500 dollar range and even those are mostly part guns that will require new who know what in order to shoot well/safely.

I don't agree with this at all.

#1 - 90%+ of CMP Garands are 'parts guns'. Only the Collector Grades aren't. If you are buying anything else, it does not have the same parts it left the factory with.

#2 - Even the Rack Grades -- the lowest available grade -- are safe to shoot and will function without replacement of anything. Sure, they're not going to be match grade rifles, but they're perfectly acceptable for someone who is a plinker or who wants to add one without import marks to their collection.

I've bought dozens of Garands from the CMP at different grades (including rack grades). Not a single one has ever needed any work (outside of disassembly, cleaning, lubrication, and reassembly) to be 'safe' or to 'shoot well'.

gloucestergarand
January 10, 2010, 10:45 AM
Happened to visit a local gun establishment yesterday and a fellow walked in, wanting to look at the Garands on the shelf. Asking price was $800 per. Both looked like they'd never been cleaned or prepped for sale. Can't imagine they were CMP sales. I just smiled, bought the ammo I wanted, and as I passed by on the way out, told him to try the CMP. He looked at me like I speaking a foreign language. Oh well, buyer beware.

skidooman603
January 10, 2010, 01:11 PM
CMP is the way to go. I have also bought MANY Garands from them with nary a hitch.

PT1911
January 10, 2010, 01:14 PM
I live about 15 miles away from the CMP... I am just going on what information the guys who build them give me.

mgkdrgn
January 10, 2010, 02:47 PM
If you find them, please let me know. I'll take 2 dozen.

Trebor
January 10, 2010, 03:14 PM
The CMP is the best place to buy a USGI M-1 Garand and offers the best price as welll.

The CMP rifles are headspaced and tested and they have a good customer service policy if a problem does pop up.

The Garands are in the $500 and up range though. They haven't been $200 since the early 1990's.

AK103K
January 10, 2010, 03:20 PM
Must be stuck in a 1960's time warp :)
Actually, more like the late 80's early 90's. My wife and I paid $169 ea for a couple of the then "DCM" (pre CMP) M1's. Both were in "OK" shape, except mine blew up due to a slam fire first time out. Those nice people down there at Anniston took it back and sent me a brand spanking new H&R as a replacement. :D

Samgotit
January 10, 2010, 03:20 PM
Special Service Grade if you can find one at CMP for $795 is unbeatable. Unfortunately, CMP only sells them at the brick and mortar stores.

I would very seriously research what your are buying if you find one for $200.

memphisjim
January 10, 2010, 03:28 PM
the service grade special would be a correct grade except that it has a new stock thats the only part of the rifle that isnt correct or original

Vern Humphrey
January 10, 2010, 03:55 PM
My wife and I paid $169 ea for a couple of the then "DCM" (pre CMP) M1's.
That's what mine cost in that time frame. I also got a Smith-Corona M1903A3 for about the same price.

dirtyjim
January 10, 2010, 04:05 PM
My wife and I paid $169 ea for a couple of the then "DCM" (pre CMP) M1's.
my type 2 national match was $152.00 shipped in 1964 & its still unfired.
i picked it up at a pawnshop after the original owner passed & his relatives pawned it

jonnyc
January 10, 2010, 04:24 PM
I think all they currently have, at least on-line, are Service Grade, for $595.

Five-O
January 10, 2010, 11:56 PM
Probably referring to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP). The sell Goverment M1 and other Milsurp Guns to qualified people. Used to be you have to have participated in a High Power Rifle Competition in the last 5 years and have proof to buy a rifle, been a while since I've bought one from them and I think the rules have changed.

I think this may be the place. I've ordered their catalog and plan to buy field grade for about $500.
Thanks for the link

skidooman603
January 11, 2010, 04:29 AM
Love hearin the old stories about buying Garands for $47...........NOT! :D The smart money is figuring out what is going to take that kind of jump in the "next" 30 yrs...:)

PT1911
January 11, 2010, 08:21 AM
well.. if I want one, I will go to the guy who does the building and headspacing for CMP... and get one cheaper...;)

ultradoc
January 11, 2010, 08:34 AM
The last two gun show I were at M-1's were going for about $800.

CZguy
January 11, 2010, 08:45 AM
my type 2 national match was $152.00 shipped in 1964 & its still unfired.
i picked it up at a pawnshop after the original owner passed & his relatives pawned it

Do you want to get all of your money back? I'll even pay for the shipping. :D

GunsAmerica Fan
January 11, 2010, 08:57 AM
I bought a Garand at Kittery Trading Post in Maine last summer for $450. That is the cheapest I have seen one. It's a dinged up stock and reparkerized non matching parts. And it of course has problems. :)

phrogmech
January 11, 2010, 09:03 AM
I bought my first garand last summer for 450.00. Serial No. 950xxx still shoots good for a garand. I can remember as a kid garands sell for 50.00 a piece. God I love this gun.
Semper Fi.

Quoheleth
January 11, 2010, 09:51 AM
I got my service grade Garand the week of Veterans' Day (ordered 08/09). Sticker price was $595, but then you gotta add in the "extras" (rounded off)
- Shipping: $22
- TSRA membership: $25 (you have to be a member of an affiliated club)
- TXCHL: $200 (you must show firearms proficiency. Other methods are acceptable, but part of the rationale for my CHL was to use it for this)
- and I'm thinking there was something else, too...

So my $600 gun was significantly more than $600.

Either way, I would say if you can find a clean, tight specimin from someone who is reputable for under $700, you've got a pretty good deal going. At the $800 mark, I think CMP is a better deal.

Service grades are good, servicable guns. Stocks can be mixmaster GI or they might be new. Mine was old GI in very good condition. Their gauging will vary, of course, but mine is outstanding. I don't have a muzzle gauge, but a buddy showed me the poor man's "stick a bullet in the barrel" and the cartridge case mouth was a good 1/8"+ above the barrel - and he said that was excellent. It shoots sub-baseball groups at 50 yards. I haven't been able to get to the 100 yard line, yet, because that's been a swamp all fall.

Rack grades are a bit rougher. Still quite usable, just don't expect them to be in the excellent category.

Someone here posted his story about his disappointment in a service grade. In his opinion, he was hosed and got a rack grade instead. I'm not calling him a liar, but use this story to illustrate that when ordering you are placing your gun's grading in the hands of the shipper. General consensus is they do a good job, but every now and then...

All this talk about Garands has me jonseing to go pull mine out. As the temp is almost above freezing (it's now 9am), I might pull it out, lube it up, and get ready for a range run!

Q

Five-O
January 11, 2010, 03:11 PM
Quoheleth, I may have to re-read CMP's site one more time but I'm under the impression that if I have certain qualifications I don't have to join any club. I am over 60 - I hold a CFP (concealed firearm permit) - I have prior LEO experience (three departments) and I'm a veteran. Also I am currently a member of a shooting club that meets to shoot once a month.
Seems that there is no mention of joining anything if I meet the above requirements.

skidooman603
January 11, 2010, 03:40 PM
Sounds like you have it covered. Worst case would be having to join the Garand Collectors Assn for $25.00 if your shooting club is not CMP affiliated. Been a while since I had to think about the hoops to jump through. With all of your service and CCW should pretty much be there :D

Mr. T
January 11, 2010, 04:27 PM
Civilian Marksmanship Program and $200 might get you laughed at.

Here's the link -- http://www.thecmp.org/pdfs/catalogCMP2009.pdf
This is the catalog link and you can see for yourself what the costs are. Hope this helps you out. I too have always wanted an M1 also. I think it would be an excellent collector gun, but also one you could use as well.:)

ArmedBear
January 11, 2010, 04:54 PM
Didn't CMP have some shot-out, welded-shut parade rifles for $200 or so, a while back?:)

paintballdude902
January 11, 2010, 04:57 PM
are these the korean imports that may be coming in to the country??

Five-O
January 11, 2010, 11:04 PM
Sounds like you have it covered. Worst case would be having to join the Garand Collectors Assn for $25.00 if your shooting club is not CMP affiliated. Been a while since I had to think about the hoops to jump through. With all of your service and CCW should pretty much be there
skidooman, I went back and re-read the qualifications and there is no way to get around the membership of an affiliate. I checked their locations and find two high schools within less than one mile from my house. Both are accepting new members. Now just gotta find out how much they charge.
The over 60 clause simply means one does *not* have to have any other credentials to buy. So my previous LEO, military service and CCW experience will not count.

as37692
January 11, 2010, 11:32 PM
If you are a Veteran (like myself) you do not have to be in any club to order a rifle from the CMP. All I did when I order my M1 was to send a copy of DD214 (which shows your Military service) along with payment, and my order form to the CMP, and then about a month later my M1 Garand was delivered to my house.

skidooman603
January 12, 2010, 05:38 AM
If you are going to one of the two stores to pick out a rifle they can sign you up for the Garand Collectors Assn right there for club. aff. They send out quarterly mags that are worth the price of belonging.

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