Home Defense buckshot
gfpd707
January 10, 2010, 08:38 PM
It seems like if you write home defense on your ammunition you can easily double or triple the price:banghead:. I cant imagine there is that much difference between HD and regular buckshot.
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earlthegoat2
January 10, 2010, 08:40 PM
Just use standard or low recoil.
I like the low recoil stuff myself.
wankerjake
January 10, 2010, 08:53 PM
I'm gonna say no. Getting hit withany buckshot in home defense range is going to ruin your day. If you have to shoot somebody with buckshot, he's never gonna know what the box said on it.
mljdeckard
January 10, 2010, 08:57 PM
What magical thing is the special HD stuff supposed to do? I'm not needing any reduced recoil.
lobo9er
January 10, 2010, 08:58 PM
why would it be?
gfpd707
January 11, 2010, 10:18 PM
why what?
MachIVshooter
January 11, 2010, 10:40 PM
I use standard Federal 3" mag 00. Doesn't say "Home Defense on it, but it's the equivalent of getting hit with 15 rounds of .30 luger simultaneously. SHould do the trick. If not, the slugs will ;)
huntsman
January 11, 2010, 10:44 PM
Is home defense buckshot worth the extra money
I don’t know about the commercially made stuff I can’t afford it, but my home defense reloads are worth my cost.
highorder
January 11, 2010, 10:46 PM
I get great patterns with Estate 2 3/4 00 buck. That's all I need.
If it won't pattern well, I don't care what else they say it does.
AcceptableUserName
January 12, 2010, 12:27 AM
it depends on how it comes out of your gun. if its priced right and puts out a good pattern, its to be bought.
personally, ive never seen buckshot labelled "home defense". ive seen Remington's HD shotshells, which are Remington's most flagrant market-grab ever on their part in my opinion. Hideously overpriced and overhyped, they're nonsense but they are NOT buckshot. Remington is a great company though, I guess you have to do what you have to do. Just like Mossberg has the Road Blocker and "Rolling Thunder"....lol.
gfpd707
January 12, 2010, 02:39 AM
I saw some hornady that said home defense for nine dollars for five. Seems excessive.
nicksterdemus
January 12, 2010, 12:53 PM
"Rolling Thunder"....
Everybody wants some of that slogan.
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19-3Ben
January 12, 2010, 01:03 PM
I just use Remington express 00. Works on paper. Spreads nicely but not too much at HD ranges (out to 10 yards).
Anything outside of 10 yards is dealt with using a rifle anyway.
SnakeLogan
January 12, 2010, 02:05 PM
Not worth the extra money. I keep Remington, Winchester, or Federal 2.75 inch 12 pellet and 3 inch 15 pellet buckshot for HD. Both patterns fine at HD distances for me.
vicdotcom
January 12, 2010, 04:04 PM
Opps voted yes, but misunderstood the question LOL Please change me to a NO!
I thought you meant is buckshot worth the extra cost compared to other shotgun rounds.
CoRoMo
January 12, 2010, 04:08 PM
I too, read the poll question wrong and therefore voted in error. I thought it was asking if buckshot was worth the extra money in regards to home defense.:o
minutemen1776
January 13, 2010, 09:50 AM
I buy Federal Tactical buckshot at my local police supply store. It's cheaper than the hunting buckshot loads I can get at Wal-Mart.
jmortimer
January 13, 2010, 11:41 AM
You can get Winchester "Military" OO cheap - for ultimate "home defense" keep around a few TRI-Ball loads from Dixie Slugs.
evan price
January 13, 2010, 11:41 AM
I use either Fiocchi Exacta 00 or else Ranger LE reduced recoil, depending on which gun.
They seem to splat the targets well.
wgp
January 14, 2010, 11:06 PM
Recently took a home-defense shotgun class and one of the things the instructor did was have us shoot cheap 00 buckshot at different ranges from 3 to 20 yards, then shoot his Federal 00 with what I recall were called Flight-Control wads, then compare the patterns. Amazing difference. The Federal loads patterned much, much tighter in every brand of shotgun in the class. At distance the cheap loads were putting pellets outside of the "body" of the target, but the Federals were keeping everything on center mass.
AcceptableUserName
January 14, 2010, 11:29 PM
honestly, for the non discriminating but well-trained, no nonsense individual who isnt a hobbyist, i.e. fascinated with the shotgun and methods and innovations as a whole,
a non extended, 18.5" gun loaded up to the brim with good ol 2 3/4" Winchester super x 00 is JUST as lethal as any high tech setup in it's own right.
sometimes simplicity is better. and The hornady buckshot says Hornady TAP - FPD
"for personal defense". It's good stuff, but I think it's a ripoff.
mljdeckard
January 14, 2010, 11:48 PM
Now, I skimmed through the posts, 12 people voted yes, but.....only one would say why?
akbound
January 15, 2010, 02:13 AM
For my own personal use in our home my 870 throws tight enough patterns with run-of-the-mill buckshot loads so far used, (Winchester - Remington - Federal). I obviously can't speak of ranges involved in the homes of others but in ours the pattern is more than sufficient.
Should the need for me to engage targets outside of the house exist it would be easier to access and load the slugs carried with the gun, or better yet switch off on the way out either door to pre-positioned carbines/rifles. Rifles reside in vehicles along with spare handguns precluding the concern of ranging needs with buckshot loaded guns when out and about.
I know the better one prepares the less likely you are to be caught flat footed, but in a world where limited resources are a concern sometimes choices must be made. Frequently it's the combination of compromises we make that allow for additional resources to exist at all.
So, in answer of the original poster my answer as regards the HD versus run-of-the-mill buckshot is NO, it's not worth the additional expense for us. You should however make your own decision only after a thorough and honest assessment of your own circumstances and needs.
Dave
Mr. T
January 15, 2010, 04:32 PM
No it's not worth it in my opinion.
leadcounsel
January 15, 2010, 04:44 PM
I buy standard buckshot, and also picked up some flight control made by Fiocci or Centurion- It's BUCKSHOT! It's an ounce or so of 9 pellets traveling at 1200 fps!!! What more do you need?
Standard buckshot is relatively cheap, about 50 cents a shell if you look around. Good enough!
flintlock62
January 15, 2010, 05:04 PM
I just use the standard 2-3/4" 00 buckshot. Recoil is manageable, therefore if a second shot is needed, which I doubt because most intruders (if they are still alive) will be running out of the house with brown stained underwear. Most situations for actual home defense will be not over 15 feet. A standard round will kill 99.9% of all knuclheads! How much more dead do you need? Dead is dead. BTW, I have taken shotgun defense and house clearing courses.
One other thing, if you did in fact shoot someone and had to face a jury, they sometimes frown on the so-called SPECIAL ammunition.
76shuvlinoff
January 15, 2010, 09:46 PM
Use the same stuff you'd hunt with, in court you're not some thug hunting vigilante, you're just Average Joe protecting the homestead with what he had on hand.... right?
Jack2427
January 17, 2010, 02:40 AM
The "Flite Control" wad is a very significant advance in buckshot loads. It will keep your pattern much closer together out to much longer ranges. I see this as a distinct advantage for the outdoor shooter, maybe police/military use, or the hunter. For HD, you would have to live in some pretty big digs for that advantage to mean a lot to you. In fact I believe it could cause the average HD shooter to miss more frequently. Yes Virginia, you can miss with a shotgun at close range.
I will continue to use regular #4,#1, 0, 00, or 000 buck inside. I even have some 10 gauge 3.5" magnum 0000 loads.
Since the "flite Control" wads seem to cut the normal dispersion in half, they will put a really small size shot group down the hall, quite good with a solid hit, but also could make for a solid miss. You pays your money and...........
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