apologies, mea culpa, (hangs head) ....


January 20, 2003, 06:08 PM
I must apologize for my recent behavior. The family has gone through some tremendous stress lately. I know, but read on.

I had stopped drinking anything called hard quite a while ago, except for a very occasional celebratory asperitif.

Coming home several different days from the hospital, a drink to relax seemed like a good idea.

Over a couple days; the first was for celebration, the next in grief - the rest was history. I let it get out of hand.

I behaved poorly towards some of our members, chose inappropriate wordings, was inflammatory & generally an a**hole.

Nekulturniy, I believe you could call it.

There’s the reason, but no excuses. I abused the privilege of posting here, violated the “think twice/post once (except one can always not post at all), & am just generally ashamed of myself.

The manner in which I posted wasn't worthy of THR or myself.

Truly sorry, & trying to get a list together to apologize “in person” to those who I offended, other than this fine group as a whole – give that a couple days, huh? – the list is fairly extensive …..


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January 20, 2003, 06:19 PM
Just found out you're human huh? You've given your apology, now go shoot some and all's forgiven.

January 20, 2003, 06:20 PM
Hey, good buddy, we understand. Darn near losing a beloved son, the angst of not knowing whether or not his transplant would work, whether his body's rejection of the heart could be controlled, having to be the "strong man" for his wife and kids, as well as your own - heck, that would try the patience of a saint! I hope all's going well now, and that he's improving at home.

Robert Farrar
January 20, 2003, 06:22 PM
We have all done these things at one time or another in our lives.
You are one of the least offensive here in my book!
Hang in there!


January 20, 2003, 06:27 PM
Get that head back up ! Now! Very few people don't say or do a few things in life that they don't regret. I hope if I ever do anything wrong, I am man enough to apologize like you have! ;)

January 20, 2003, 06:27 PM

All clear here, no worries.


I like a friend better for having faults that one can talk about. -- William Hazlitt

January 20, 2003, 06:30 PM

You are human, and have been experiencing one heck of a life stressor. Now the apologies and amends are done, you've probably beat yourself up more than what you percieved the harm inflicted to THR and its members.

If you recall our landline conversation, we touched on the aspect we are not given anything that will overcome or destroy us--if it seems so --strength will be provided.

You know how to reach me,
best to you and yours

January 20, 2003, 06:35 PM
No biggie. Glad things are working out for you, and stress sux.

As you've probalby figured, tis better to lurk and enjoy teh reparte, than type, but what the hey, we all know you've been facing some tough sledding lately. Blowing off a bit of steam happens, we be happy to be here for ya.

all :cool: :cool: bro, take care.

January 20, 2003, 06:36 PM
No worries here, I rather enjoyed our exchanges. I am sorry if I said anything offensive to you.

I can't imagine what you are going through, but I only wish the best to you and yours.
Hang in there buddy.

Best wishes,

Kentucky Rifle
January 20, 2003, 06:50 PM
What'd you think?
You thought we weren't friends anymore because this strain caused you to be someone else for a few days? Nah!!
Nothing to apologize here for, my friend.
You handled it better than I would have my friend. Hang in there. We're all buddies here and we depend on each other. Watch each others "six", as it were.:p Listen to the Chaplain. He said it well.


January 20, 2003, 06:51 PM
Labgrade.....It takes a strong human being to admit and recognize when he/she is at fault. I don't know what you have said or done. I ran across one thread a few weeks back where you were pretty "unreasonable" with someone and I made a comment about it and you apoligized to me and to the person who posted the thread. I wasn't looking for an apology, but respected the fact that you did. I have heard briefly that these current times in your life are a struggle. Hang in there! You have faced clearing up the so called "wrongs" here at THR that you believe you have caused head on.....Take on those other struggles in your life head on not relying on the bottle and before you know it, you will look back a more humble, strong person for the trials you have just gone through. Trials shape a man/woman into a humble respectable human being, at least they should. I would venture to say that you will succeed! Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders, just alot of worries right now. Ask yourself something...How many times have you solved any problems by worrying about them? Take it a day at a time. Take care!

Hey maybe we should start a " Venting Room" we could all go there and vent our fustrations...It would be a nuetral room? Well, just a thought.:D

January 20, 2003, 06:59 PM
Many of the topics posted in this forum generate strong opinions, regardless of what the participants are drinking. The main thing is that we know we can "agree to disagree", and learn from each other and support each other in a larger struggle. Your concern for your son and family put a lot of pressure on you, and other issues are secondary to this priority. Take care, hope things continue to improve.

January 20, 2003, 07:19 PM
Triad said it best in the first reply:

Just found out you're human huh? You've given your apology, now go shoot some and all's forgiven.


Dude, been there, done that, got a T-shirt.

What size are you? :p

Ain't no thang.....

Gotta keep on keepin' on.....

Also: The fact that you realize your mistakes and apologise publicly speaks volumes of your character.

Mal H
January 20, 2003, 07:29 PM
labgrade - Throw the dadgum list away and don't fret over it any longer. You've apologized publicly and there's no need for you do more. As they say in the Army, "don't sweat the small stuff". You've always been a respected friend around these parts and I don't think that's changed one iota.

January 20, 2003, 07:40 PM
I just saw the threads which showed what you were going through. I don't think that any of us can get down on you for showing the effects of the enormous stress you were trying to bear. Many of us have posted something we later regretted. I hope that things are looking up for you and the family now.

Malone LaVeigh
January 20, 2003, 07:54 PM
Sir, you are a gentleman to put most to shame. I just looked back at a couple of PM's you sent, and if those are rude, I better start making general apologies, too.

You have been living through the nightmare all of us parents dread the most. Rest assured that you all have been in my thoughts and prayers, and don't bother yourself a bit with anything else.

January 20, 2003, 07:56 PM
Sir, most of us would do far worse under similar circumstances. I can only hope to show your strength of will and character in a time of need.

January 20, 2003, 08:00 PM
You were NICE to me , guess we should both attend AA. Just kidding , sorry for your problems, my brother in arms.:)

January 21, 2003, 06:51 AM
not to worry..............

Bob Locke
January 21, 2003, 07:05 AM
Always proud to call you "friend", amigo!

Now, in with the show!

January 21, 2003, 07:06 AM
No problems here, Labgrade. We've all had occassion to get pumped up on these boards. You're passionate about your opinions and I for one respect that more than the guy that just sits idly by, wallowing in apathy.

Frankly, you add much more to this forum than you subtract. I welcome your dialog.


January 21, 2003, 09:17 AM

Stress makes us all do things we wouldn't normally even consider; family crisis such as yours increases the stress level tenfold.

As to your putting away an 'alcoholic relaxer', well, one can sometimes help, but is not the solution. I found that out the hard way some years back, after a traumatic split from first wife. I discovered that gallons of booze will not drown your troubles, it only irrigates them, and helps them grow the next day.

No apology needed, friend.

Best wishes to you and yours. Remeber that what seems like the weight of the Universe on your shoulders is actually the Guiding Hands of Our Lord.

January 21, 2003, 10:37 AM

A very close friend went through a heart transplant about 8 years ago. Touch and go at the time, but he's FINE NOW.

Guess I missed the posts you're referring to but I was inspired by your eloquence in your posts as you went through this trial. You, your son and families had my prayers.

By reaching out to THRers you brought everybody here a little closer, even us newbies.

No need for me to forgive you 'cause what I got from your posts was very positive.

Best wishes to you and yours and as said, above, go shooting and be happy.


January 21, 2003, 11:35 AM

The door swings both ways. We all give and take, that's what makes us great,

Cowboy up and press on... yer all right in my book.

PS...stress will kill you! You gotta shake it off.

January 21, 2003, 11:51 AM
You are more of a man than most for recognizing and owning up to your mistakes. It's a rare virtue these days.

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