Country of origin for 1911's


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jwsturr
January 12, 2010, 01:10 AM
I recently bought a Ruger pistol, because Ruger is "100%" Made in the USA. I have no reason not to believe them. Springfiled says Springfield Amory USA on the side of their firearms. But xD's made in croatia?? I've shot the Springfields and was very impressed. Love the 1911 but I'm not sure which way to go. I'm not bent on buying something made in the US, but a lot of misleading info out there. Is Colt made in the US or Cananda? Springfields in croatia or is that the xD line only? S&W 1911 made in US? And of course the customs Kimber, Wesson's and such. Thanks.

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weisse52
January 12, 2010, 01:27 AM
Colt is made in the USA!

I do believe that Smith and Kimber are both US made as well.

Springfield's frame and I believe slide are made in Brazil.

Your choice, I buy American made...Because I want to, you decision.

And if you really want a 1911, then but a Colt!

Quack
January 12, 2010, 01:41 AM
Springfields start with frames/slides forged by IMBEL in Brazil.
some are built in the US, some are done in Brazil.

Dan Wesson's are US made, which (IMO) is the best bang for the buck.

tommyintx
January 12, 2010, 11:55 AM
get a used colt and go from there if you want a US 1911. pretty hard to go wrong unless a dremel has been taken to the gun (feed ramps etc).

JTQ
January 12, 2010, 11:56 AM
From a previous post on the subject
The major US made brands are AutoOrdnance (Kahr), Les Baer, Ed Brown, Colt, Kimber, Nighthawk, ParaUSA, SigSauer (actually made in New Hampshire), Smith & Wesson, STI, Dan Wesson, and Wilson. No doubt there are others I missed. I didn't forget Springfield. They are all made in Brazil and some are assembled here in the US.

Zach S
January 12, 2010, 12:53 PM
I think SA's entry-level guns are made in Brazil.

On the loaded models, the frame and slide are imported as 80%s(?), and the final machining, fitting, and assembly is done here. So, like an American car, its made in the USA, with imported parts...

XDs are simply HS2000s with the SA logo and a higher price tag. I dont know about the XDm.

trickyasafox
January 12, 2010, 01:26 PM
Rock Island Armory is Philippines I think. I have an older colt and a springfield that was made at the imbel plant in brazil. I like to buy American as well- but sometimes I just can't afford it.

BossHogg
January 12, 2010, 03:06 PM
Sig 1911's made in USA.

The Lone Haranguer
January 12, 2010, 09:03 PM
Para-Ordnance is a Canadian company, but apparently they have an assembly facility in the US now.

Quack
January 12, 2010, 09:06 PM
Yep, they have a facility in NC.

REAPER4206969
January 12, 2010, 09:12 PM
On the loaded models, the frame and slide are imported as 80%s(?), and the final machining, fitting, and assembly is done here. So, like an American car, its made in the USA, with imported parts...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/892154/Loaded_brazil.jpg

Quack
January 13, 2010, 12:39 AM
On the loaded models, the frame and slide are imported as 80%s(?), and the final machining, fitting, and assembly is done here. So, like an American car, its made in the USA, with imported parts...

This comes straight from Deb/Vicky at Springfield... if > 50% of the work is done on one of their pistols in Brazil, then somewhere on that pistol it will be marked "Brazil". Should > 50% be done in Geneseo, IL, then it does not require a "Brazil" marking.

Zach S
January 13, 2010, 09:47 AM
I didnt know for sure (I thought I mentioned that, but I was tired), just repeating something I read in a gun rag.

To blur the lines a little more, would the STI Spartan be American or an import?

jwsturr
January 13, 2010, 10:36 PM
I do like the Colt series 70. It's inexpensive, compared to some, and made in the USA. Thanks for the input...

jaysouth
January 14, 2010, 10:06 AM
STI Spartan is manufactured and assembled in the Phillipines.

According to errornet buzz, they will soon be offering a 9mm. I can't wait.

conhntr
January 15, 2010, 08:41 AM
I agree with the above comments that its personal preference whether to buy american or not.

however "springfield armory" has always bothered me. they got (or purhcased/used whatever) the rights to that name; heck some people even think they are a real government armory. but they import almost their entire product line.

ive even had people comparing an XD to a Glock say they prefer to buy american...

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