Most reliable 9mm carry pistol?


PDA






bg226
January 12, 2010, 07:00 PM
Departed with the jammomatic M&P. Under a limit of $1,000 what would be the most proven and reliable 9mm for carry?

I want the most reliable 9mm I can get. I hope not to be disappointed.

If you enjoyed reading about "Most reliable 9mm carry pistol?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
kanook
January 12, 2010, 07:01 PM
My Ruger P89 never had a single problem in over 4,000 rounds

sigbear
January 12, 2010, 07:08 PM
I have had many 9mm's but now only have 3, I carry a Walther P99C mostly and a full size P99 ocassionally. Both P99's use the same 15 and 16 round mags and have been very reliable.

The glock and M&P have compact models as well, however, I live in Mass and those guns new, must have a 10 lb. trigger which makes a good gun suck, I mean really suck.

Good luck, so many to choose from

Sigbear

bestseller92
January 12, 2010, 07:57 PM
Glock 19 or 26.

pfsgators
January 12, 2010, 08:14 PM
My Kahr PM9 has 600+ non failing rounds thru it. Also have a Glock 26- same!

fourwedge
January 12, 2010, 08:18 PM
I too have a Kahr, but it is a mk9. I have put 300 rounds through it and had 0 malfunctions, It is my EDC. I also recently got a CZ p-01. Awesome shooter, in fact the best I have ever shot.....a little bigger then the kahr but in a custom rig it will be perfect!

My 9's are on the Right!
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/fourwedge_photos/IMG_0102.jpg

roaddog28
January 12, 2010, 08:19 PM
I agree. The P series by Ruger are overlooked. They are not exciting pistols but are reliable and are not picky about ammo. Ruger is a fine company and backs their products. And of course are American Made and other than Smith and Wesson has been making guns in America a long time. I like buying from a company that has some history that is a American company.

Thanks,
roaddog28

Maj Dad
January 12, 2010, 08:36 PM
I currently have 3 9mms: PT-99, S&W 908, and a Luger. The PT-99 has swallowed every jacketed load it has been fed for 20+ years with no failures of any sort. Lead reloads are o.k. as long as they are loaded properly (OAL, taper crimp etc), but sloppy ones can hang up. In the 908 I use only jacketed, and it has never had a failure to feed/extract/eject. This is my experience only, and no in-depth torture test.

earlthegoat2
January 12, 2010, 08:39 PM
There are plenty:

Of course: HK P7 and the Browning Hi Power
Then:

Sig 239
Sig 229
CZ-75 PCR
Glock 19
Glock 26
Smith M&P 9c
Taurus PT111
Beretta Anything
HK Anything

Rinspeed
January 12, 2010, 08:41 PM
Sig 239.

dondavis3
January 12, 2010, 08:55 PM
Beretta 92 F

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/Beretta92FInox9mm2.jpg

Springfield XDm

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/SpringfieldXDmStainless9mm3.jpg

Beretta PX4

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/BerettaPX49mm2.jpg

S&W 6906

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/DSC_0138.jpg

There are lots of excellent 9mm's out there.

I'd suggest you beg / borrow and rent as many guns as you can to try them out..

They are shoot differently.

:)

Speedo66
January 12, 2010, 09:05 PM
My agency used Glock 19s and Glock 26s.

20 guys on the line for annual requal and no problems shooting 100 rounds each for many years.

I kept my Glock 26 when I retired and feel it's reliable enough to protect my family.

mljdeckard
January 12, 2010, 09:13 PM
Glock 17, 19, or 26.

FMJMIKE
January 12, 2010, 09:48 PM
My Glock G19.................Buy one NOW!!!.............:D
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/G19b.jpg

tekarra
January 12, 2010, 10:29 PM
I like my cZ 75s. The only problems I have had were with one batch of Brown Bear and a couple of handloads. After them comes the Bersa Thunder 9.

Autolycus
January 12, 2010, 10:35 PM
I like Sigs and Glocks. I prefer either as long as it is in 9mm.

snakeman
January 12, 2010, 10:44 PM
Find a browning hi-power in excellent condition or maybe a taurus 24/7. You could even go with a carry type 1911 in 9mm.

model of 1905
January 13, 2010, 12:13 AM
Surprised no one has mentioned the S&W M&Ps and the Springfield XDm.

MrWesson
January 13, 2010, 12:47 AM
You cant realistically list one gun and there are many more other than this list

Glock 9mm
Sig
Xd
M&P
CZ 75
FNP-9
Beretta
Ruger P series
Arcus 98.. I want to comment on the arcus as It is every bit as reliable as my glock and used by the bulgarian and Iraqi armies.IMO they are one of the best buys in 9mm at 329.99 http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/arcus-98dac-9mm-compact-size-new/products_id/2377

jigglyjames29
January 13, 2010, 12:53 AM
Glock 19, Walther P99AS, HK P30

armoredman
January 13, 2010, 01:01 AM
In my experiance, which of course is dwarfed by some, I would choose what I have, CZ P01 and CZ PCR, haveing fired many of the 9mm pistols available. But, that is MY opinion, and my experiance.

Course I can't let an opportunity go by... :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/doubledown.jpg

R. Deckard
January 13, 2010, 01:06 AM
Glock 19

Deckard

Isher
January 13, 2010, 01:35 AM
Any CZ.

isher

Jermz1987
January 13, 2010, 02:03 AM
Ill have to agree on the CZ. over 1000 through my CZ75b and 0 malfunctions. (knock on wood)

Ala Dan
January 13, 2010, 02:16 AM
West German SIG-SAUER P228

or

H&K P30

Sapper771
January 13, 2010, 05:26 AM
There are a lot out there. I will respond primarily by advising to go to a shooting range that rents several of the guns that the above Members have recommended. Try them out , shoot them, compare them. We can recommend anything to you, but it is ultimately your decision.
Size vs. weight vs. grip angle vs. mag capacity vs. Etc.

Secondly, I guess I will have to recommend that you try some of my favorite/preferred 9mm's. At this time, my top 9 that I use as a back up gun is my H&K P7. It is a dream shooter..... Fast and accurate. The Glock 19 is an excellent multi-role pistol. The Sig P6 would be close to the G19. For a full sized pistol , The Glock 17 , Sig P226, and the Browning Hi Power are all hard to beat. On the side of the P226, I recommend a West German model.

Those are a few. I could say CZ, but I have only owned one, but it was reliable and accurate.

Good luck with your decision.

NWCP
January 13, 2010, 05:36 AM
Any HK USP, P2000, or P30 full size pistols, or compacts.

CPshooter
January 13, 2010, 05:37 AM
Any HK USP, P2000, or P30 full size pistols, or compacts. Bingo!

CJ
January 13, 2010, 05:42 PM
Depends on your criteria. The US Army seems to think it's the Beretta. Mass numbers indicate the Glock 17 or 19. I'd be comfortable with a Sig 226 or 228, or HK USP as well. I'm still watching the Springfield XD line as well, but they look promising to me.

The real issue may be: why was the M&P jamming? Was it only for you, or for everyone who shot it? If it was your technique (limp wrist, thumb riding the slide, etc.), you might still have the same issue with whatever you choose.

mordechaianiliewicz
January 13, 2010, 05:51 PM
H&K USP Compact, Glock 19, Ruger P95, Kel Tec PF9 (has never jammed on me past the 2nd shot the first time I ever used it

Glock and Ruger I've had have literally NEVER malfunctioned.

I've never owned an HK USP, but I have friend that has one.... it has NEVER jammed in over 5,000 rounds now.

That being said, I've used .40 S&W M&Ps now a couple times (including a compact model), and none of them had any problems. All ran like my Glock.... in fact so well, I'd have put it right up there with Glock, Ruger, H&K.... maybe you got a lemon?

WarMachine
January 13, 2010, 05:54 PM
There is no "most reliable" pistol. I'd say find one you like, shoot well, and functions 100% with the ammo you intend to use. You're bound to get as many different suggestions as there are posts.

wnycollector
January 13, 2010, 06:02 PM
I have two 9mm pistols that have never jammed in thousands of rounds... a west german SIG P226 and a S&W 910. The S&W 910 is inching towards 1000 rounds since its last cleaning...again with ZERO problems. I would put a S&W 2nd or 3rd gen pistol up against any 9mm out there. Mine is as reliable as my S&W revolvers:)

DERGLOCKINMEISTER
January 13, 2010, 06:07 PM
Glock , 26 , 19 , 17 , 34 17l

SharpsDressedMan
January 13, 2010, 07:41 PM
Nothing comes with a guarantee. Learn your malfunction and clearing drills and pray for a good day when you won't need to use them.

bg226
January 13, 2010, 08:43 PM
Nothing comes with a guarantee. Learn your malfunction and clearing drills and pray for a good day when you won't need to use them.
True. No guarantee, but some pistols have a much better reputation for reliability than others.

memphisjim
January 13, 2010, 09:01 PM
glock

Mike,IN
January 13, 2010, 10:29 PM
I use a M&P Pro for USPSA, but my Sig 226 never fails

SharpsDressedMan
January 13, 2010, 11:12 PM
When you get into the reliability of a Glock vs. SIG vs. CZ vs. Beretta vs. Ruger, etc, it becomes luck of the draw, and maybe a minor tweaking, and most guns reach a 99.98% reliability level. Any one of them could be a lemon, or any one of them my never burp. Some just need a little work. You won't know which is which until you wring them out. That is why I said concentrate on malfs, because you never know when it's going to hang up. Hell, it could just be the AMMO..................

crashbuell
January 13, 2010, 11:44 PM
I have to agree with Sig. My duty Sig is a 40, but my department had 9mm first. If they are anything like the 40, they are bullet proof. I have shot 1500+ rounds through mine and it has yet to malfunction. Great guns.

Cpt. America
January 13, 2010, 11:56 PM
Kel-tec P11

jon_in_wv
January 14, 2010, 12:01 AM
Jammamatic M&P? Mine has gone over 5000 rounds now without a hitch. I love mine, I'm sorry uou had bad luck with yours. Second best in my book is the H&K P7 PSP. Its a phenomenal shooter and second to none in reliability.

paradox998
January 14, 2010, 12:39 AM
CZ-75B family, no question.

gglass
January 14, 2010, 12:42 AM
I recommend another M&P.

I own five and my son's own two each. All have been flawless through thousands of rounds. I don't know what issue you had, but I've never heard of an issue that Smith & Wesson wouldn't fix for free.

My M&P stable:
M&P40 FS
M&P357 FS
M&P9c
M&P9 Pro Series (x2)

wrench
January 14, 2010, 01:19 AM
Pistols I have that have never had a single fumble?
Beretta 92
S&W CS9 and 3914
Browning hi power

dondavis3
January 14, 2010, 09:02 AM
+1 wrench

Beretta 92F :D

The Sarge
January 14, 2010, 09:05 AM
Well.....I can only tell you the pistols I have abused and fired significant rounds through without a hitch. In 9MM only per the OP's request........
Glock 17
Stoeger Cougar
Ruger P95
Springfield XD

Bones11b
January 14, 2010, 09:39 AM
Not that I ever reached a high round count with it, but CZ75. Carried one in some very harsh conditions (Iraq) and never had any issues with it going bang when I wanted it to.

txgolfer45
January 14, 2010, 09:43 AM
Glock 19 or 26. Look no further.

Blues Brother
January 14, 2010, 09:51 AM
I have 3 of them and been pleased with all.

S&W 5906

Springfield XD9 Subcompact

Sig P226


all great guns IMO.

NavyEngineer
January 14, 2010, 10:29 AM
The U.S. Army conducted durability testing of M9 pistols at Aberdeen Proving Ground. These tests revealed an average life of the M9 frame at around 35,000 rounds, of the M9 locking block at around 22,000 rounds, and of the M9 slide at around 75,000 rounds, all well in excess of the contractually-required service life of 5,000 rounds for the pistol. In addition, Government-witnessed tests of the M9 pistol at the Beretta U.S.A. facility resulted in average reliability of the pistol at one malfunction every 17,500 rounds.

Since the government spent a lot of time and money testing the M9 and Sig 228, I bought one of each. (Sig in 1993, M9 in 2006). Several thousand rounds through the SIG and several hundred through the M9 with flawless reliability so far.

Water-Man
January 14, 2010, 10:50 AM
Never had a problem with a Sig P226.

Philo_Beddoe
January 14, 2010, 01:07 PM
I have owned the following 9mm's that have been 100% flawless

Ruger P95
Berreta 92 FS
S&W M&P
CZ-75b omega
CZ-75B SA

SideArmed
January 14, 2010, 02:31 PM
I'm sure there are a ton...but I would recommend a Glock 17/19

The Bushmaster
January 14, 2010, 03:13 PM
I just have to throw this one in...I have and carry (not as often as I used to) a Firestar M43 that I bought new in 1992. It has yet to fail.

CharlieC357
January 14, 2010, 04:13 PM
I like my MP compact 9mm. Feel really comfortable in my hand is a nice size for concealed carry.

michiganfan
January 14, 2010, 08:04 PM
Glock

searcher451
January 14, 2010, 08:56 PM
Walther P99C. It's an exceptional firearm that is easy to conceal.

X-Rap
January 14, 2010, 09:57 PM
Glock or H&K USP Tied for 1st choice. There are many 2nd choices.

umn1978
January 15, 2010, 09:44 AM
hk p7m8

bg226
January 15, 2010, 11:08 AM
So the Glock 19 is the gold standard?

Have the Gen4 Glock 19 hit the shelves yet?

jon_in_wv
January 15, 2010, 04:17 PM
The most reliable weapons I've ever had are the Makarov, a Hi-Power, and my H&K P7.

SwampWolf
January 15, 2010, 10:02 PM
Third Generation Smith & Wesson-any one of them.

MrWesson
January 16, 2010, 12:53 AM
I just want to hear your experience with the M&P and why/how it was jamming. I would send the pistol back to smith and at least get it reliable even if you don't keep it.

Nick5182
January 16, 2010, 01:04 AM
I, also, have to back up Glock and Beretta. And, of course, if you've got the money, you can NEVER go wrong with Sig. My Beretta has a few thousand rounds through it and not a single hiccup. The Glock I own is in .40 s&w, but Glocks have always been reputable for their reliability, and I can attest to that personally as my Glock has a few thousand rounds through her as well. I've only had one jam with my Glock, and that was when a buddy's girlfriend had a low grip and limp-wristed it. Another over-looked firearm is the EAA witness. I have an Elite Match in .45, which isn't meant to be a carry gun, but their compact and polymer models are great carry guns, and are reputably reliable as well.

Mastifflover
January 16, 2010, 01:42 AM
Glock!!!

Wow, there are actually a couple votes for Kel-tec. Roll of the dice with that brand. I lucked out with a good one. My brother, not so much.

Superfuzz
January 16, 2010, 09:40 AM
9mm Ive personally carried and fired, without FTF:

Glock 19/26
Kahr K9

RobMoore
January 16, 2010, 09:43 AM
Departed with the jammomatic M&P

Well, since you departed with a gun that plenty of people don't have an issue with, you should have learned the lesson that your problem wasn't with the brand, but with the example. Find a gun you like to shoot, and make it work or find one that will. If jamming was the only reason you didn't like it, that is what the warranty is for.

Every gun proposed to solve your solution today has a former owner of one somewhere who thought it was a piece of junk.

As mentioned before, you didn't need a thread asking for a new gun, you needed a shipping label from S&W for a trip back for repair.

There is a reason why the issue was happening, and it wasn't the brand name on the side of the gun. You don't get that popular by producing a pistol that can't run.

TexasBill
January 16, 2010, 10:06 AM
FNP-9: Mine's digested about 3,000 rounds of whatever 9mm was on hand with only one hang-up and that was due to a bad round. It has a very smooth DA trigger pull, shoots like a dream, fits the hand with interchangeable backstraps, tears down easily for cleaning and comes with three magazines.

Beretta PX4 Storm, Beretta 92F: Own the PX4, have shot the 92. Also have a Beretta 84FS Cheetah, one of the very best .380s available.

SIG P226 or SIG 2022: I have fired both and have friends in the Texas DPS who are issued the P226 in .357 SIG. Without exception, they really like the SIG.

Browning High-Power: Still the cream of SA 9mm pistols. About the only version I haven't owned is the engraved Renaissance edition. It's a sweet shooter, reliable, easy to tear down and easy to conceal.

Stoeger Cougar: This is the Beretta Cougar that was widely praised for everything except the price. Beretta moved the tooling to its plant in Turkey and now even the price is good.

Ben86
January 16, 2010, 10:08 AM
From my experience, Glock. I have the most confidence in their durability and reliablility. My carry gun is either a G26 or G19.

dondavis3
January 16, 2010, 10:18 AM
I've recently bought a Beretta PX4 Storm and it is quickly becoming one of my favorites.

I'm taking it to the range again today.

And of course as always the proven in combat Beretta 92F.

:cool:

Manco
January 16, 2010, 12:31 PM
I just want to hear your experience with the M&P and why/how it was jamming. I would send the pistol back to smith and at least get it reliable even if you don't keep it.

Me, too. :confused: The M&P is normally a reliable design and S&W has great customer service.

bg226
January 16, 2010, 01:02 PM
I just want to hear your experience with the M&P and why/how it was jamming. I would send the pistol back to smith and at least get it reliable even if you don't keep it.
The M&P jammed several times with different mags with excellent care. There is a consistency of malfunctions across different magazines. Using the same care and ammunition, my Beretta PX4 has been crushingly superior and flawless.

I'm starting to not bother with anything beyond Glock and Beretta when it comes to reliability. The M&P has a good trigger and grip, but fails in the most important respect.

gvf
January 16, 2010, 01:05 PM
A glock 9mm - possible exception of 36 which some have had ejection problems with - including mine under warranty - though now fine with Colt's fix.

Deer Hunter
January 16, 2010, 01:08 PM
Buy a gun from any name-brand, decent quality company and shoot it.

All guns will malfunction. Every. Last. One. S&W, HK, CZ, Glock, etc are all about on the same level relatively.

Buy a gun you feel good about. What feels best? What can you conceal with confidence? Shoot accurately? Clean thoroughly?

Base your choice on these, instead of internet rumor round counts.

RobMoore
January 16, 2010, 05:19 PM
Yup, the only thing this thread gets you is a census of (so far) the favored guns of about 70 random people.

dondavis3
January 16, 2010, 07:23 PM
So True

smoothdraw
January 16, 2010, 10:36 PM
Glock and HK USP also for me. Glock engineering with the price it sells is really a good value.

Manco
January 16, 2010, 11:13 PM
The M&P jammed several times with different mags with excellent care. There is a consistency of malfunctions across different magazines. Using the same care and ammunition, my Beretta PX4 has been crushingly superior and flawless.

Well, my M&P has yet to fail even once, and I've put over 1000 rounds through it and counting. There are plenty of others with similar experiences, as well as a small minority who've had issues in the beginning. Give Smith & Wesson a chance to make things right--their customer service is first-rate.

I'm starting to not bother with anything beyond Glock and Beretta when it comes to reliability.

You must have heard about a number of problems with Beretta pistols in the US military (e.g. broken slides smacking people in the face), and I know a guy whose new Glock has several failures to feed with every magazine he's tried (that's several failures for EACH magazine load). I guess they're no good just like S&W, and manufacturers such as HK and SIG don't even rate consideration? Come on, not every pistol is perfect out of the box for any manufacturer.

The M&P has a good trigger and grip, but fails in the most important respect.

YOUR M&P fails, yes, but maybe it can be fixed. The basic design is very sound, and S&W has an excellent track record for customer service.

BlayGlock
January 16, 2010, 11:20 PM
My Glock 19 has been solid. My Glock 17 has been solid. The M&P 9mm I had was not as solid. My Kahr MK9 has been great, it had one ftf during the break-in and no problems since.

NMGonzo
January 16, 2010, 11:24 PM
I am always ready to pummel anyone if my weapon fails to go boom.

Reliability ... feh ...

WRGADog
January 17, 2010, 01:21 PM
But, only after the required number of rounds are fired to break in the pistol. Light weight, small size, accurate and reliable. IWB carry you have many choices. My favorites are Walther PPS, XD9sc or Beretta PX4sc

dondavis3
January 17, 2010, 01:29 PM
+1 on the Walther PPK/S I carried mine for years.

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx67/dondavis3/Guns/DSC_0022.jpg

Great shooting gun and very pretty.

:)

joe_security
January 17, 2010, 10:08 PM
For me, its an Exeter, NH made P226 9mm. 10 years old, no ugly rails or terrible laser etched #s. Hogue grips with the finger grooves in the front. I cant make it jam. I usually hit low left, but the groups are all so tight the holes in the paper target are connected. Some day I will find a sight pusher and dial it in a little, but as for reliability, I would never give up this gun. It seems to be as reliable as my revolvers. I also have an old G22 with no rails and dead night sights, it never misses a beat, Im just too lazy so i use the Sig. I dont want to start an ammo debate but i use Win. SXT 147 grain, low recoil and supreme accuracy.

Jubjub
January 17, 2010, 10:49 PM
I don't know what the most reliable is, but my CZ P-01 has never malfunctioned, in any way, in several years of being shot regularly.

lgjhn
January 18, 2010, 12:07 AM
+1 on the CZ PO-1.
I just recently picked one of these up and have put several different brands and styles of ammo thru it and it just goes bang every time the trigger is pulled....I guess I'm up over a 1000 rounds thru it now. I cannot recall it ever failing to shoot or jam. Its a sweet pistol and fun to shoot. Not sure if its the "most reliable", but it sure does what it is supposed to....over and over.

WhiteHorse
February 9, 2010, 12:48 AM
I carry a SIG SP2022 in 9mm.

sarduy
February 9, 2010, 01:18 AM
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/44767/2799749790095461090S600x600Q85.jpg (http://news.webshots.com/photo/2799749790095461090cvOyiB)

The Lone Haranguer
February 9, 2010, 02:10 AM
Glock, SIG P-series, S&W Third Generation (metal frame).

ckone
February 9, 2010, 11:35 AM
Glock 17, 19, 26. WHY EVEN BOTHER ASKING.

dondavis3
February 9, 2010, 11:42 AM
ckone

Because everyone does not agree with you. :eek:

:)

guitarman531
February 9, 2010, 11:50 AM
I have been very happy with my Glock 19 (2nd Gen).

Steve 48
February 9, 2010, 11:56 AM
All mine are reliable, 5906,3913, CW9 and 2022. I tend to take the CW9 for carry and the 2022 for accurracy and the S&W's for plinking!!

Greg72
February 9, 2010, 06:41 PM
Although it might be a tad biggish( depending on your size) for carry, I'll throw in with the rest for a Sig p226. Bought mine in '95, and it has been [I]flawless[I]. My Hk p7 psp that I got in October is running like a champ also. Good luck!

stanmo
February 9, 2010, 09:20 PM
I have a CZ P-01 and a Kahr E-9 that have never had a malfunction of any kind.
I just bought a Kel-Tec PF-9 that I tried at the range right out of the box with 100 rnds which also ran perfect and it's more accurate that a $275 gun should be.

Zerodefect
February 9, 2010, 10:19 PM
Glock 19 or 26.

My Glocks are the only pistols I have that HAVEN'T ever failed to fire. They also have the most rounds through them.

ttheel
February 9, 2010, 11:48 PM
I am partial to the SIG P228. To this day I do not understand why they quit selling them here in the States(although I did hear about a limited run of P228's earlier this year). Quite possibly the most balanced SIG ever designed.

If you enjoyed reading about "Most reliable 9mm carry pistol?" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!