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wingnutx
November 14, 2003, 02:00 PM
Big News on the Commerce Clause:

United States v. Stewart
The new Commerce Clause jurisprudence (Lopez and Morrison) comes home to roost in the Ninth Circuit's pathbreaking decision today that holds that the federal government may not ban a homemade machine gun. Here is a link to the PDF file. (Via Volokh.)

Here are the two key paragraphs of the opinion:

"We start by considering the first and fourth prongs of the Morrison test, as we have deemed them the most important. See McCoy, 323 F.3d at 1119. The first prong is not satisfied here. Possession of a machinegun is not, without more, economic in nature. Just like the statute struck down in Lopez, section 922(o) “is a criminal statute that by its terms has nothing to do with ‘commerce’ or any sort of economic enterprise, however broadly one might define those terms.” Lopez, 514 U.S at 561. Unlike in Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942), where growing wheat in one’s backyard could be seen as a means of saving money that would otherwise have been spent in the open market, a homemade machinegun may be part of a gun collection or may be crafted as a hobby. Or it may be used for illegal purposes. Whatever its intended use, without some evidence that it will be sold or transferred—and there is none here—its relationship to interstate commerce is highly attenuated.

Moreover, the regulation itself does not have an economic purpose: whereas the statute in Wickard was enacted primarily to control the market price of wheat, id. at 115, there is no evidence that section 922(o) was enacted to regulate commercial aspects of the machinegun business. More likely, section 922(o) was intended to keep machineguns out of the hands of criminals—an admirable goal, but not a commercial one."


And one more important paragraph from later in the opinion:
This case fails Morrison’s other requirements as well.

"As we stated earlier, section 922(o) contains no jurisdictional element anchoring the prohibited activity to interstate commerce. Congress also failed to make any legislative findings when it enacted the statute. While neither Lopez nor Morrison requires Congress to make findings every time it passes a law under its Commerce Clause power, the Supreme Court did note the importance of findings where—as here—such findings would “enable [a court] to evaluate the legislative judgment that the activity in question substantially affected interstate commerce, even though no such substantial effect was visible to the naked eye.” Lopez, 514 U.S. at 563."


The implications are staggering. Here is one: Homegrown marijuana would seem directly analagous to homemade machineguns. And in fact, the Ninth Circuit has a homegrown medical marijuana case pending now. Wow!


http://lsolum.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_lsolum_archive.html#106876112035798273

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bogie
November 14, 2003, 02:03 PM
Okay - at the same time, would one be able to pay his $200 "making" tax, make the dojigger, and then take it across a state line to shoot it? Not selling it, etc., but just to transport it?

TheOtherOne
November 14, 2003, 02:36 PM
From what I understand they are trying to say that having your own homemade machinegun is fine and dandy?

Regardless of what some court has said, I don't believe the ATF would agree and they are the ones that really matter since they'll be busting down your door to shoot you dead if you have one.

Beren
November 14, 2003, 02:55 PM
Wait a minute, are you telling me the Ninth Circuit finally did something positive?

Gordon Fink
November 14, 2003, 02:56 PM
This is also the third or fourth thread on this topic.


~G. Fink

Frohickey
November 14, 2003, 03:52 PM
Yes, the 9th did something positive.

And its coming from Kozinsky, one of the respected justices in the 9th circuit.
Its not coming from Reinhardt, one of the most reversed justices in the 9th circuit.

wingnutx
November 14, 2003, 04:29 PM
I don't believe the ATF would agree and they are the ones that really matter since they'll be busting down your door to shoot you dead if you have one.

Yeah, but they'd be sternly reprimanded afterwards.

JohnKSa
November 14, 2003, 10:49 PM
I'm not a lawyer and I'm not going to dissect this decision, but it seems to me that the implications are not as far reaching as everyone is assuming.

It sounds more like the prosecutor tried to convict this guy using the wrong law/wrong court (federal vs state), not that all homemade machine guns are going to suddenly be legal.

Also, since there are almost certainly state laws that relate, the person may still be prosecutable under state laws which do not relate to commerce, etc...

tyme
November 15, 2003, 05:07 AM
It's not just the ICC under attack. There's speculation that Congress's broad reading of the taxing and spending power is in trouble, too. Sabri v United States, cert granted mid-october 2003.

wingnutx
November 15, 2003, 07:51 AM
JohnKSa- exactly. This is an affirmation of federalism.

Mark Tyson
November 15, 2003, 07:52 AM
I don't believe the ATF would agree and they are the ones that really matter since they'll be busting down your door to shoot you dead if you have one.

You don't need to build one and risk imprisonment to challenge the law - you can just apply for the tax stamp for a new MG, as was pointed out in another thread.

It sounds more like the prosecutor tried to convict this guy using the wrong law/wrong court (federal vs state), not that all homemade machine guns are going to suddenly be legal.

The law that allows the ATF to refuse registration of new full autos is based on the commerce clause and nothing else, as is all federal gun control. It was this abuse of the commerce clause that was struck down. That's the only law that is applicable.

State laws are another matter but most states have some provision allowing NFA weapons.

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