Which Glock Would You Recommend?


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gqpolo
January 17, 2010, 01:45 PM
I am starting the Police Academy soon and have fired rifles, and a shotgun a few times but I have never fired a handgun. I have somewhat smaller hands and am leaning towards a Glock23 for it's versatility and small grip. Please post thoughts.

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jahwarrior
January 17, 2010, 02:01 PM
i would find out what your local PD issues to its officers; when you make it through the academy, and get your first assignment, you'll already be handy with what they issue. also, think about getting a compact version of your duty weapon, as a BUG.

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wow6599
January 17, 2010, 02:10 PM
Even though I 'm not a fan of the 40S&W, I would guess that there's a good chance your issue gun will be a Glock 22 or S&W M&P40 - JMHO.

silversport
January 17, 2010, 02:10 PM
...and don't learn any bad habits they'll have to break once you start the Academy...congratulations by the way...the GLOCK .40S&W, 357SiG and 9MM are all the same sized frames within the GLOCK sphere of influence...the .45ACP and 10MM are their own frame and the .45GLOCK is closer to the 9MM/357SiG/.40S&W/pistols...

Bill

Quiet
January 17, 2010, 02:27 PM
i would find out what your local PD issues to its officers; when you make it through the academy, and get your first assignment, you'll already be handy with what they issue. also, think about getting a compact version of your duty weapon, as a BUG.
What he said.

gqpolo
January 17, 2010, 02:37 PM
Silversport, can you elaborate on the bad habits comment? My class starts in March and I am taking a class at one of the local ranges here and want to get as much knowledge as I can going in. Jahwarrior, I don't have a rapport with any local law enforcement how do you recommend I find out what weapon is issued? Call? Also am I able to carry my own personal weapon rather than an issued one? I appreciate all of the responses.

Taurus 617 CCW
January 17, 2010, 02:38 PM
I have shot plenty of Glock 17/22's, used to own a Glock 27, and currently own a Glock 19. I have medium sized hands and find the Glock 19/23 frame size to be just about perfect in comfort, concealment size, handling, shootability and capacity. You won't be disappointed. As jahwarrior previously stated, you may want to find out what the department carries and line up with that caliber.

wow6599
January 17, 2010, 02:41 PM
But........if you can carry what you want I would go with a SF G20, but I am a 10mm nut :D

LeontheProfessional
January 17, 2010, 02:47 PM
If I was going to get a 9mm I would get the 19 if I was going to get a .40s&w I would get the 22 or 23. The glock 17 is too big for a 9mm IMO. +1 on the BUG. You will be issued a gun in the PD. You may want to consider going with that caliber in a subcompact frame.

NMGonzo
January 17, 2010, 02:56 PM
glock 35 if you open carry

rcmodel
January 17, 2010, 03:07 PM
how do you recommend I find out what weapon is issued? Call?

Also am I able to carry my own personal weapon rather than an issued one?You surely had to talk to somebody to gain admittance to the police academy didn't you?
Ask them those questions yourself.

We can't answer them, because we have no idea where in the world you are living, or what police dept you plan to work for.

I must say however that most medium to large departments will tell you what gun you can carry, and then either issue you one, or make you buy your own of that make & model.

It's a little premature to buy a gun until you find out what the rules are.
In other words, don't buy a Glock if they use SIGS or S&W's.

rc

jahwarrior
January 17, 2010, 03:12 PM
You surely had to talk to somebody to gain admittance to the police academy didn't you?
Ask them those questions yourself.

We can't answer them, because we have no idea where in the world you are living, or what police dept you plan to work for.

I must say however that most medium to large departments will tell you what gun you can carry, and then either issue you one, or make you buy your own of that make & model.

It's a little premature to buy a gun until you find out what the rules are.
In other words, don't buy a Glock if they use SIGS or S&W's.

also, you might want to find out what your state police and sheriff's department use. i don't know how your academy operates and recruits out; here, both the municipal police and sheriff's office recruit from the academy, the state troopers require an additional 6 weeks in their own boot camp.

gqpolo
January 17, 2010, 03:20 PM
Thanks for all of the responses I appreciate it.

9mmepiphany
January 17, 2010, 03:26 PM
to address bad habits - i've seen, in LEO training, the greatest variation in trigger finger placement on the trigger, grip and presentation from the holster.

almost forgot: if they are a Glock department, the overwhelming choice by departments seem to be the G22. i don't think it's a very good choice, but then i don't make those decisions...it's more about price and politics.

my personal favorite is the G19 for all around use. for a duty gun, the G34/G35 were designed specifically for LE use...it's funny, because almost no departments spec them for general issue.

possum
January 17, 2010, 04:02 PM
if they allow 9mm, i say go with the glock 19. i have a 23 and it is nice and all, but 9mm is cheaper to shoot, and will allow you to get more training value out of your hard earned dollar.

jahwarrior
January 17, 2010, 04:46 PM
most importantly: don't rely on police handgun training. most PDs only require officers to qualify once or twice a year; many officers only get out their guns and practice when they need to. this isn't conjecture; i've asked LEOs i'm friendly with, and they're also troubled that their fellow officers are such terrrible shots. once you decide on your firearm, GET OUT THERE AND PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. you'll probably need to qualify with a shotgun, as well, so if you have one, go skeet shooting when you can.

silversport
January 18, 2010, 08:41 AM
...if you are taking a class somewhere you will probably not learn many if any bad habits...I was taught some things by an old range officer prior to going to the Academy...seems Academies like to change from Weaver, Modified Weaver, Isosceles, whatever the style of the day is now and I was taught different than what they were teaching at that time in the Academy...I had to unlearn what the Range Officer at home taught me and re learn the "new" style...it's not a deal breaker but made me a bit slower at first and I had to catch up...

I see a lot of excellent advice here...good luck...

Bill

Dr.Mall Ninja
January 18, 2010, 08:43 AM
But........if you can carry what you want I would go with a SF G20, but I am a 10mm nut yeeeah I want to get a 29 for ccw.

X-Rap
January 18, 2010, 09:25 AM
Regardless of what you are issued if you have the money I would look hard at the G23. You can shoot 3 of the popular police rounds with fairly simple barrle changes (probably the extractor if going to 9mm).
I doubt that you will be working for the same department for life and even if the Glock is not authorized for duty the 23 is a nice size for CC.

thriftyjoe
January 18, 2010, 02:04 PM
Glock 19 with +P HP

Zerodefect
January 18, 2010, 02:27 PM
Glock 23 is my favorite gun. But I'm not an officer, I ccw.

I'd imagine it would be more comfortable in a car than a full size. And you can still use full size magazines as reloads. And you can't really put a light on one, at least I wouldn't risk it.

Allthough I'd never CCW one due to its size, for open carry a G21 sure would be nice, if it fits you.

Kingofthehill
January 18, 2010, 02:30 PM
Glock 23 Hands Down!

Big enough to be a fun shooter for any occasion, small enough to be comfortable for CCW.

Love my Glock 23

GRIZ22
January 18, 2010, 07:46 PM
You need to find answers to those firearms questions before you go out and buy.

If it's authorized I'd get a Glock 19, best all around sized Glock 9mm.

kmbrman
January 18, 2010, 10:15 PM
If you are only going to have one Glock pistol I recommend the 23 40 S&W. The reason is it fits a wide use for a practical pistol. Most ballistics are figured on the 4" barrel and the gun shoots as easily as the larger 22 with no loss of accuracy as far as I can tell. Also is easy to conceal if that is important.

fireman
January 18, 2010, 11:44 PM
Glock 35 +1

Fireman

Onesiphorus
January 19, 2010, 12:59 AM
19,23 or 30

bds
January 19, 2010, 04:09 AM
Recommend not buying any gun until you complete the police academy and become a peace officer because many department will offer Law Enforcement discounts for carry/back up guns (my cousins-in-law are PD/Sheriff).

In the meantime, you can call the potential employers (City police department vs county Sheriff) to see which models of hand guns they issue and practice with those models to get familiar and qualify at the range (many ranges offer wide assortment of rental guns you can shoot). If you want to make a personal Glock purchase, G17/G19/G22/G23 have the same size grips with G19/G23 compacts being a bit short at the base (2 rounds worth). If you never shot before, full size models shoot softer with more accuracy then compact models (more flip/snap and less accurate) but the difference is not that much and over time/practice can be compensated. I recommend you shoot various models you are considering and make your decision based on shooting impression (talk to Glock owners and take an experienced Glock shooter with you to the range if you can, that will help).

Range qualifications may vary from department/state, but usually involve human sized target at set distances (5/10/15 yards etc.) - You should be able to ask the range officer at the local police range/public range to find out what range qualifications (and ammunition) local law enforcement use and start using them as your practice.

Sapper771
January 19, 2010, 05:54 AM
Have you already been hired by a department ? Or are you going through the academy as a student?

If you have been hired by a department, then they should either A)Issued you a service weapon, B)issue you a voucher to go purchase a service weapon, or C) give you a list of approved firearms and you will have to purchase your own weapon + gear.
There are certain departments that still have an open firearms policy where officers can carry just about anything they want.

If you are a student, and you have never fired a handgun, I would recommend starting out with a Glock 17 9mm (full sized) or the Glock 19 9mm (compact).
The 9mm cartridge has minimal recoil that will help you learn the pistol and make a smoother transition to pistol shooting.
After you finish your academy and you get hired, more than likely you will be issued a duty weapon and trained on it, then it is up to you if you want to keep the Glock 17/19 or sell it. 9mm ammunition is cheaper, which will help you shoot more and train more with less money.

If you really want to save some money, call the academy that you will be attending and ask them if they have spare pistols that they can lend to students. My academy had several guns that they kept in armory to issue to students. You may also want to ask them if you are expected to supply the ammunition(just to make sure).

Good Luck to you in the academy, and Godspeed throughout your career.

Justice5
January 19, 2010, 06:10 AM
My department issues the Glock 21, 22, or 23, depending on hand size. If you have small hands, the 23 would likely be the best choice. The other benefit is that it is a bit smaller than the others, and off duty carry would be easier with it.

I'm not sure what your choices are, but out of the three, I perfer the Glock 21. Something about the recoil being easier for me to control with a 45 caliber, rather than a 40. The glock 21 has a very smooth recoil. I've never been a fan of the 9mm, just my opinion.

Good advice on Practice, Practice, Practice. The better I become at shooting, the more I enjoy it and have more confidence when and if the day comes.

My department supplies ammunition as well, so you may think about your decision based on what they will supply for you to shoot and practice with.

Congratulations and good luck in the academy!

BoomBoom25
January 19, 2010, 08:10 AM
My cousin works for the Sherrif's Office in Cookville TN. I haven't talked to him in a while but I belive he told me they can carry either a Glock, Beretta, or Smith@Wesson in calibers ranging from 9mm through 45. as on on duty weapon. Plus a back up again of those choices with the exception of being able to pick .380acp if the so chose. I do belive most agencies will allow you to pick your own weapon for an off duty gun. Some will also let you buy your own gun to use as an on duty weapon.Like everyone else is saying you should talk with your department about that. Now if you can pick your own gun and still wont a Glock it's a tough choice I love them all. But I would proably stick with the compact G23 OG G19 and if I were going full size if your department allows it I would go for the G20 IN 10mm. You can't really beat that and if you like hunting in most states all you have to do is get the 6 in barrel and you can use it for hunting as well. Anyway thats just my 2cents worth hope I helped a little.

gqpolo
January 19, 2010, 06:21 PM
Thank you all for the valuable information. Here is what the local Captain sent me:

Mr. Quicker,
It is difficult to answer your question because each department uses something different. We are presently using Glocks and the officer has a choice of either 9MM or .45. We recently switched from Sig Sauers. Some departments do not give a choice and could be using 9mm or .40 or .45 cal.

I do not know how familiar you are with shooting. If you have little or no experience, I would use and become proficient with something on the order of a 9mm. Then, if the need arises and you have to go to a larger caliber, the transition is not so difficult. If you have little or no experience and go right to a large caliber, you may experience a greater learning curve.

Also, the idea of getting some time in shooting prior to the academy is not a bad idea. But, if you have had little or no experience, you need to make sure you are getting the right training and not learning habits that they will have to break when you get to the academy, which will mean that it will be more difficult to qualify.

Don't know if this helps or if it is what you were looking for. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. Good Luck.



Capt. Dent

Do you all agree with this? If so I agree with the G23 guys and start with a 9mm barrel and work my way up to the .45

Autolycus
January 19, 2010, 07:17 PM
You should call the PD and ask them what their approved firearms are. I would then purchase it. I would also suggest not taking the class at the range until after the academy as their instructors will teach you the basics and get you into it. From there you can start training more and more.

Chances are you will be issued a gun or told to puchase from a list and specific supplier. It would not be cool to buy the same gun from two different stores. You may also get a police discount on your duty guns.

Autolycus
January 19, 2010, 07:19 PM
I just read your last post. I would suggest a Glock 17 or a Glock 19. I would check out the Glock 17's in the 4th generation. They come with adjustable grips.

bds
January 19, 2010, 07:28 PM
gqpolo,

Do you all agree with this? If so I agree with the G23 guys and start with a 9mm barrel and work my way up to the .45

It would be ideal to buy the same gun the department uses that you will end up with (Glock/Sig/S&W), but if you don't know that at this point, then you may need to make a personal handgun decision.

Most law enforcement departments use Glock 22 as their primary duty weapon. If you start with a Glock 23, then much of your practice and "muscle memory" will transition well to the Glock 22.

Even though I am a fan of Glock, if you never shot a handgun before, I would highly recommend you spend some time shooting an assortment of range guns (Glock/Sig/S&W) in full-size models to get a good feeling for them.

And you still have the option to buy your handgun after you graduate and start with a department. You can continue to shoot range guns and practice.

I hope this helped and good luck to you.

gqpolo
January 19, 2010, 10:07 PM
Thanks everyone for all of the help I appreciate it.

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